50+ year-old woman kills attacker in self-defense

[Krazy4Real]

It's terrible that she had to go through this experience, but I'm glad she shot and killed that guy. He got what he deserved.

 

[ch33zw1z]

He had it coming, good for her. I feel sorry for her, she did the right thing. DMFD

 

[JS80]

We could just buy his fiancée a strap-on as a wedding gift...

No need. He's an admitted bi-sexual. He loves the cock.

 

[OCGuy]

If this thread doesnt get the troll banned, I dont think anything ever will.


I would love to see him stand in front of a women's violent crime victim panel and spout this shit. They would chop off his dick and rape his asshole with it.

 

[Numenorean]

If this thread doesnt get the troll banned, I dont think anything ever will.


I would love to see him stand in front of a women's violent crime victim panel and spout this shit. They would chop off his dick and rape his asshole with it.

Well at least he wouldn't be able to feel the rape. He's got that going for him.

 

[Joseph F]

This women performed a service to humanity. She should be treated like a hero. Had this guy gotten away without killing her, there is a good chance that he would have never been caught and even if he did get caught he might not spend more than 10 years in jail. (paid for by you and me).

This guy getting shot in the act is the best sort of justice there is. There is no question that he is guilty, there is no question that he deserves to die. Pretty much every rational person should support this form of capital punishment.

The only regrettable thing about this whole situation is that the lady had to go through it in the first place. This is the sort of thing that could scar her for the rest of her life.

FTFY

 

[corwin]

SO I've been playing catchup on this thread and then I come to this...

Emotionally:

Kill the fucker

Logically:

Let the woman get raped.

Holy hell, how the fuck do you live with yourself? This statement alone should be a ban, there is no logic in that shitty excuse for a brain you have, you should be beaten, raped, and strangled with your own panty hose for suggesting this and all of your other assinine statements.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

if you are to believe the self-proclaimed weapon gurus in ATOT nothing short of a .45 hollow point will stop a person!

To be fair they are talking about a single shot. (sometimes thats all you can get off)

In this instance the woman did fire and hit him multiple times and it did not "stop" him right away he was able to flee the house allegedly.

 

[Numenorean]

To be fair they are talking about a single shot. (sometimes thats all you can get off)

In this instance the woman did fire and hit him multiple times and it did not "stop" him right away he was able to flee the house allegedly.

Yeah if he was hopped up on drugs, a .22 may not have prevented him from injuring the woman. May have died anyway, but the woman may have as well.

My .45 is kept loaded with hollow point defense rounds. If I shoot a gun at a person, it's because that person is a deadly threat and I have no qualms using the most deadly ammo I can get.

 

[dpodblood]

Yeah if he was hopped up on drugs, a .22 may not have prevented him from injuring the woman. May have died anyway, but the woman may have as well.

My .45 is kept loaded with hollow point defense rounds. If I shoot a gun at a person, it's because that person is a deadly threat and I have no qualms using the most deadly ammo I can get.

Indeed. If someone was trying to rape or murder me I would fire as many shots as I could as quickly as possible.

 

[HAL9000]

It would be the same with UK law, you are allowed to defend yourself, with deadly force if necessary, if you are threatened with such.

We aren't that backward you know...

Of course, but there's a difference between someone breaking into your home and someone threatening you with deadly force.

War is a part of society. Just because war is treated different legally isn't any reason to not prepare a moral assessment of proper codes of conduct.

Why do you think it is wrong to kill to save your life, but do not thing it is wrong to kill for something abstract, like a nation?

I don't. I think that theoretically a war could be justifiable, so if we are going to talk about the morality of killing in war we need to first talk about the justification for that war, thus making this a different thread all together so I didn't get into it.

When do you think it is okay to kill someone, if the safety one's own life isn't important enough?

I've not said that.

So what you are saying is that if the Police officers are wearing stab proof vests, they should let the assailant have a few swings first, just to make sure that he is intent on harm. But then if the stab proof vest is any use (or the criminal is dumb enough not to realise and aim for arms/legs), then he hasn't actually harmed anyone, so according to you he should just be restrained as best possible and then bundled into the back of a padded (for his own safety) paddy wagon (police van).

Yup

 

[nick1985]

SO I've been playing catchup on this thread and then I come to this...



Holy hell, how the fuck do you live with yourself? This statement alone should be a ban, there is no logic in that shitty excuse for a brain you have, you should be beaten, raped, and strangled with your own panty hose for suggesting this and all of your other assinine statements.

Do I get credit for cornering him and exposing him?

 

[Skitzer]

You are so deathly wrong it's sad. Your views on the value of life, like I have said many times, are fucking scary. Life is NOT THAT VALUABLE. It's incredibly cheap and easy to replace. The woman has to LIVE with the rape, she has to LIVE with those memories, she has to LIVE in a personal hell from the experience. Fuck you neckbeard, you are a fucking piece of shit. I have called you out on your bullshit of "valuing human life" you don't, you don't value shit except your sheltered closed off world you created for yourself in your own head. You dumbass delusional idiot.

I don't care if I'm banned as this is like the 30th time I'm going to get an infraction for calling him a piece of shit. You moderators know exactly how fucking stupid he is and how much bullshit he comes in here and pulls, you let it slide. If it's ok for him to come in here and repeat the same non-sense over and over and over again just to troll, then it must be completely ok for me to call him a fucking piece of shit and suggest he kills himself to do the rest of us a favor and free up some bandwidth.

This ... my sentiments exactly!/thread

 

[HAL9000]

I disagree with this assessment for many reasons.

1. Brandishing a deadly weapon at a person in an intent to kill. There is no other assumptions that should be made when someone breaks into your home wielding a deadly weapon. It is called a deadly weapon for a reason. The suspected crime here is not simply rape, but also murder as well.

No assumptions should be made at all.

2. These "other options" are vague. This isn't a movie. If someone has intent to kill you, you can't shoot the chandelier and cause it to fall and trap them, giving you the time you need to call the police. When a person is advancing towards you, threatening to take your life, there really aren't any other options. Threatening them in return or shooting them in the foot is a foolhardy action at best, and would probably end up in death for the innocent victim.

Very true, I'm not arguing about practicality, I'm arguing about morality.

3. You fail to make any moral distinctions between the initiator of a violent act and a violent act caused as an unwanted, but necessary reaction. For example, by your moral code someone would be just as "evil" for walking up and punching someone in the face as for hitting a rapist in the face while trying to escape a rapist. Murdering someone is not the same as killing someone in self defense. Initiating an event and being in it due to reasons beyond your control should be taken into consideration.

Of course not, I haven't explained the difference between how I value life in this thread, so It's a fair assumption to make, the life of the attacker is diminished based on the fact of instigating the attack, in my opinion. Therefore when the choice is between the life of the attacker or the victim the victim's life wins out, but putting the victim in that situation the attacker has forced the victim into making a choice they did not want to make, in a situation they did not want to be in, therefore the life of the victim in this circumstance is more valuable than the life of the attacker, particularly given that the attacker will have valued his or her own life less by starting a potentially deadly conflict.

I wonder if we can get allisolm to ban him for condoning violence against women?

I don't condone violence against women. So I doubt it.

Yes, because if this is a six shooter revolver, you waste 5 of them aiming to miss, you suddenly only have ONE shot. What if you miss with that one? You think the guy is going to stand around and wait while you reload? What a fucking moronic thing to say.

OK, maybe don't fire five if you've got a six shooter revolver, know your weapon, make the call.

 

[Firestorm007]

Killing is worse than rape.

I'd rather neither had happened. I'd rather she had taken some other action to defend herself.

What if it had been your mother or sister? Sir, you are a douche!

 

[corwin]

Do I get credit for cornering him and exposing him?

He exposes himself so often it's disgusting...but to get him to blatanly admit it...:thumbsup:

 

[HAL9000]

wow...just.....wow

Gun owners are not that at all. The majority don't want to harm anyone, but only defend themselves against harm.

You're a piece of work.

Sorry that was more of a retaliation statement for the abuse of another member and not indicative of how I actually feel, please disregard.

Rape can be worse than killing and more evil. You obviously don't know anyone who has been raped. Some wish that the person would have just killed them but instead they have to live the rest of their life tortured by the event. You have no fucking clue at all what you're saying.

I know a lot about it, I stand by what I said. Rape you can recover from, being killed you can't.

Let's see...she tried to fight him off with a shower rod, and bribe him with money.

So shooting him was the third thing she did. So you should be fine with it then right?

No.

 

[OCGuy]

I almost want to find a women's victim forum and link them to this thread so they can shit on neckbeard.

I know a lot about it, I stand by what I said. Rape you can recover from, being killed you can't.

Ban?


I think his problem is that he can't sympathize with rape victims, because it is impossible for him to be raped.

 

[corwin]

What if it had been your mother or sister? Sir, you are a douche!

He doesn't value their lives or well being over a criminal intent on causing harm...he's morally bankrupt and a douche

 

[HAL9000]

Holy hell, how the fuck do you live with yourself? This statement alone should be a ban, I disagree with you, so you should be beaten, raped, and strangled with your own panty hose for suggesting this and all of your other assinine statements.

fixed

There is logic to it. being dead is worse than being raped.

What if it had been your mother or sister? Sir, you are a douche!

Then I'd be emotionally biased, there's no need for insults.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I know a lot about it, I stand by what I said. Rape you can recover from, being killed you can't.

just cuz your daddy fucked ya doesn't mean you should troll the internet the rest of your life. That doesn't mean you have recovered.

 

[OCGuy]

The best part is it doesn't matter what this medicated internet tard thinks. The idiot is dead, and we are rejoicing. There will be no charges filed.


Woohoo!

 

[HAL9000]

Ban?


I think his problem is that he can't sympathize with rape victims, because it is impossible for him to be raped.

No?


Well that's not the case at all, so I don't know why you think that.

He doesn't value their lives or well being over a criminal intent on causing harm...he's morally bankrupt and a douche

I've never said any of that.

 

[HAL9000]

He exposes himself so often it's disgusting...but to get him to blatanly admit it...:thumbsup:

I've never said anything different, this is not new.

just cuz your daddy fucked ya doesn't mean you should troll the internet the rest of your life. That doesn't mean you have recovered.

He didn't, I don't.

 

[nick1985]

I've never said any of that.

You have admitted that according to you, logically, that you would rather the woman be raped than the rapist killed. You HAVE said exactly that.

You are a piece of shit. I know a rape victim, and what you said makes my blood boil. I'd like to tell you how I really feel, but the mods would just slap me with my 17th 30-day ban. So I'll hold my tongue.