50 Things That Are Being Killed By The Internet

moshquerade

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This is not an email forward, I promise :laugh:

Do you agree with these suggestions/selections? Some hit you more than others?


50 things that are being killed by the internet

The internet has wrought huge changes on our lives ? both positive and negative ? in the fifteen years since its use became widespread.

Published: 7:00AM BST 04 Sep 2009

1) The art of polite disagreement
While the inane spats of YouTube commencers may not be representative, the internet has certainly sharpened the tone of debate. The most raucous sections of the blogworld seem incapable of accepting sincerely held differences of opinion; all opponents must have "agendas".

2) Fear that you are the only person unmoved by a celebrity's death
Twitter has become a clearing-house for jokes about dead famous people. Tasteless, but an antidote to the "fans in mourning" mawkishness that otherwise predominates.

3) Listening to an album all the way through
The single is one of the unlikely beneficiaries of the internet ? a development which can be looked at in two ways. There's no longer any need to endure eight tracks of filler for a couple of decent tunes, but will "album albums" like Radiohead's Amnesiac get the widespread hearing they deserve?

4) Sarah Palin
Her train wreck interviews with NBC's Katie Couric were watched and re-watched millions of times on the internet, cementing the Republican vice-presidential candidate's reputation as a politician out of her depth. Palin's uncomfortable relationship with the web continues; she has threatened to sue bloggers who republish rumours about the state of her marriage.

5) Punctuality
Before mobile phones, people actually had to keep their appointments and turn up to the pub on time. Texting friends to warn them of your tardiness five minutes before you are due to meet has become one of throwaway rudenesses of the connected age.

6) Ceefax/Teletext
All sports fans of a certain age can tell you their favourite Ceefax pages (p341 for Test match scores, p312 for football transfer gossip), but the service's clunking graphics and four-paragraph articles have dated badly. ITV announced earlier this year that it was planning to pull Teletext, its version.

7) Adolescent nerves at first porn purchase
The ubiquity of free, hard-core pornography on the web has put an end to one of the most dreaded rights of passage for teenage boys ? buying dirty magazines. Why tremble in the WHSmiths queue when you can download mountains of filth for free in your bedroom? The trend also threatens the future of "porn in the woods" ? the grotty pages of Razzle and Penthouse that scatter the fringes of provincial towns and villages.

8) Telephone directories
You can find
Fly Fishing by J R Hartley on Amazon
Fly Fishing by J R Hartley on Amazon .

9) The myth of cat intelligence
The proudest household pets are now the illiterate butts of caption-based jokes. Icanhasreputashunback?

10) Watches
Scrabbling around in your pocket to dig out a phone may not be as elegant as glancing at a watch, but it saves splashing out on two gadgets.

11) Music stores
In a world where people don't want to pay anything for music, charging them £16.99 for 12 songs in a flimsy plastic case is no business model.

12) Letter writing/pen pals
Email is quicker, cheaper and more convenient; receiving a handwritten letter from a friend has become a rare, even nostalgic, pleasure. As a result, formal valedictions like "Yours faithfully" are being replaced by "Best" and "Thanks".

13) Memory
When almost any fact, no matter how obscure, can be dug up within seconds through Google and Wikipedia, there is less value attached to the "mere" storage and retrieval of knowledge. What becomes important is how you use it ? the internet age rewards creativity.

14) Dead time
When was the last time you spent an hour mulling the world out a window, or rereading a favourite book? The internet's draw on our attention is relentless and increasingly difficult to resist.

15) Photo albums and slide shows
Facebook, Flickr and printing sites like Snapfish are how we share our photos. Earlier this year Kodak announced that it was discontinuing its Kodachrome slide film because of lack of demand.

16) Hoaxes and conspiracy theories
The internet is often dismissed as awash with cranks, but it has proved far more potent at debunking conspiracy theories than perpetuating them. The excellent Snopes.com continues to deliver the final, sober, word on urban legends.

17) Watching television together
On-demand television, from the iPlayer in Britain to Hulu in the US, allows relatives and colleagues to watch the same programmes at different times, undermining what had been one of the medium's most attractive cultural appeals ? the shared experience. Appointment-to-view television, if it exists at all, seems confined to sport and live reality shows.

18) Authoritative reference works
We still crave reliable information, but generally aren't willing to pay for it.

19) The Innovations catalogue
Preposterous as its household gadgets may have been, the Innovations catalogue was always a diverting read. The magazine ceased printing in 2003, and its web presence is depressingly bland.

20) Order forms in the back pages of books
Amazon's "Customers who bought this item also bought..." service seems the closest web equivalent.

21) Delayed knowledge of sporting results
When was the last time you bought a newspaper to find out who won the match, rather than for comment and analysis? There's no need to fall silent for James Alexander Gordon on the way home from the game when everyone in the car has an iPhone.

22) Enforceable copyright
The record companies, film studios and news agencies are fighting back, but can the floodgates ever be closed?

23) Reading telegrams at weddings
Quoting from a wad of email printouts doesn't have the same magic.

24) Dogging
Websites may have helped spread the word about dogging, but the internet offers a myriad of more convenient ways to organise no-strings sex with strangers. None of these involve spending the evening in lay-by near Aylesbury.

25) Aren't they dead? Aren't they gay?
Wikipedia allows us to confirm or disprove almost any celebrity rumour instantly. Only at festivals with no Wi-Fi signals can the gullible be tricked into believing that David Hasslehoff has passed away.

26) Holiday news ignorance
Glancing at the front pages after landing back at Heathrow used to be a thrilling experience ? had anyone died? Was the government still standing? Now it takes a stern soul to resist the temptation to check the headlines at least once while you're away.

27) Knowing telephone numbers off by heart
After typing the digits into your contacts book, you need never look at them again.

28) Respect for doctors and other professionals
The proliferation of health websites has undermined the status of GPs, whose diagnoses are now challenged by patients armed with printouts.

29) The mystery of foreign languages
Sites like Babelfish offer instant, good-enough translations of dozens of languages ? but kill their beauty and rhythm.

30) Geographical knowledge
With GPS systems spreading from cars to smartphones, knowing the way from A to B is a less prized skill. Just ask the London taxi drivers who spent years learning The Knowledge but are now undercut by minicabs.

31) Privacy
We may attack governments for the spread of surveillance culture, but users of social media websites make more information about themselves available than Big Brother could ever hoped to obtain by covert means.

32) Chuck Norris's reputation
The absurdly heroic boasts on Chuck Norris Facts may be affectionate, but will anyone take him seriously again?

33) Pencil cricket
An old-fashioned schoolboy diversion swept away by the Stick Cricket behemoth

34) Mainstream media
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer and Rocky Mountain News in the US have already folded, and the UK's Observer may follow. Free news and the migration of advertising to the web threaten the basic business models of almost all media organisations.

35) Concentration
What with tabbing between Gmail, Twitter, Facebook and Google News, it's a wonder anyone gets their work done. A disturbing trend captured by the wonderful XKCD webcomic.

36) Mr Alifi's dignity
Twenty years ago, if you were a Sudanese man who was forced to marry a goat after having sex with it, you'd take solace that news of your shame would be unlikely to spread beyond the neighbouring villages. Unfortunately for Mr Alifi, his indiscretion came in the digital age ? and became one of the first viral news stories.

37) Personal reinvention
How can you forge a new identity at university when your Facebook is plastered with photos of the "old" you?

38) Viktor Yanukovych
The Orange Revolution in Ukraine was organised by a cabal of students and young activists who exploited the power of the web to mobilise resistance against the old regime, and sweep Viktor Yushchenko to power.

39) The insurance ring-round
Their adverts may grate, but insurance comparison websites have killed one of the most tedious annual chores

40) Undiscovered artists
Posting paintings to deviantART and Flickr ? or poems to writebuzz ? could not be easier. So now the garret-dwellers have no excuses.

41) The usefulness of reference pages at the front of diaries
If anyone still digs out their diaries to check what time zone Lisbon is in, or how many litres there are to a gallon, we don't know them.

42) The nervous thrill of the reunion
You've spent the past five years tracking their weight-gain on Facebook, so meeting up with your first love doesn't pack the emotional punch it once did.

43) Solitaire
The original computer timewaster has been superseded by the more alluring temptations of the web. Ditto Minesweeper.

44) Trust in Nigerian businessmen and princes
Some gift horses should have their mouths very closely inspected.

45) Prostitute calling cards/ kerb crawling
Sex can be marketed more cheaply, safely and efficiently on the web than the street corner.

46) Staggered product/film releases
Companies are becoming increasingly draconian in their anti-piracy measure, but are finally beginning to appreciate that forcing British consumers to wait six months to hand over their money is not a smart business plan.

47) Footnotes
Made superfluous by the link, although Wikipedia is fighting a brave rearguard action.

48) Grand National trips to the bookmaker
Having a little flutter is much more fun when you don't have to wade though a shop of drunks and ne'er-do-wells

49) Fanzines
Blogs and fansites offer greater freedom and community interaction than paper fanzines, and can be read by many more people.

50) Your lunchbreak
Did you leave your desk today? Or snaffle a sandwich while sending a few personal emails and checking the price of a week in Istanbul?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tec...d-by-the-internet.html

 

Regs

Lifer
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This is going to take some time....it's like what old people do when there's nothing on TV.
 

Safeway

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50 things I don't care about: See above.

50 dying things the internet finished off: See above.

50 useful antiquities the internet proved useless: See above.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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Any specialty store selling small, expensive, million of a kind products.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: Safeway
50 things I don't care about: See above.

50 dying things the internet finished off: See above.

50 useful antiquities the internet proved useless: See above.

this
 

Rubycon

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The internet is shit.

It is vitally important that we all realize this and move on. People (eg Bloggers) go on and on about how wonderful it is. About how much information is out there in cyberspace. About the way that everything is within reach in just a few clicks of their mice.

For instance:

"If I can operate Google, I can find anything... Google, combined with Wi-Fi, is a little bit like God. God is wireless, God is everywhere and God sees and knows everything. Throughout history, people connected to God without wires. Now, for many questions in the world, you ask Google, and increasingly, you can do it without wires, too."

Alan Cohen, V.P. of Airespace, a new Wi-Fi provider, New York Times, 6/29/03

I can name 20 people from my old school class who aren't in Google. I can walk into any public library, no matter how tiny and underfunded, and find facts, stories, amazing information I would never touch in a month of webcrawling. I can go into a bar and hear stories Usenet hasn't come close to in its 22 years of waffle. "Oh but what about the stuff you CAN get on the web?" the netheads say. But they're missing the point.

The internet is not the sole basis upon which you can determine existence. It sounds simple but people are starting to forget. If it doesn't have a website, that doesn't make something low quality. If you can't Google your blind date, that doesn't make them a freak. If one website says something about anything, it's more than likely pure invention and shouldn't be taken seriously. Checking your sources does not mean finding another website that says the same. Fiction is self-perpetuating.

Let's say it another way. A URL is not a mark of quality. It's not proof of honesty or approval from the FDA. Sure, people say they know this already, that a lot of the internet isn't true and a lot of it isn't interesting, no matter how angst-ridden and attention-seeking its author. But still we praise the internet for everything, from mobilising global protests to creating the latest trends, while disappearing up its backside and discarding anything outside it as 'out of touch'.

While we ascribe every first-world miracle to the electronic age, there's something truly missing that we once had in our grasp: our sense of wonder. Back in 1995, we were surprised, agog when things appeared on the net. People starting going around saying 'wow, this could really become something'. Slowly (very slowly at 16kbps), strange websites, new information, odd diversions and discussions with people around the world appeared in this brave new world. Each time it was met with surprise and delight, even if some of it was deeply obscure and slightly dull. There was no doubting the potential of the medium.

And look what we've done with it. Food wrappers and soap operas now tell us to visit their websites. Money is pumped online by people who can't even spell HTML. All manner of pointless and irritating content is continually poured down the infinite hole of data, unfiltered and over-appreciated. In accepting freedom of speech, we can't hide from its consequences - which in this case is millions of terabytes of unreliable information, badly designed and clumsily written. We have failed our own creation and given birth something truly awful. We're just too busy cooing over the pram to notice.

We need to start again. We need to stop saying how wonderful things are. We need to openly, truthfully and respectfully admit that the internet itself, in almost all of what's been done with it, is shit.

There's no point in undoing what has been done. What we need to do is to change our attitude. The internet isn't new any more. The evangelists have done their job. Everyone's heard of it even if they don't spend their lives logged on. Now its the job of the congregation to revolt. Chant it from the rooftops, spread it across your server, email it to your friends. The internet is shit.

And then what? Then we can move on. If we truly understand that the internet is shit then maybe we'll go back to looking elsewhere to check our information instead of just Google. Maybe journalists will do proper research again. If we remember that the medium isn't the message then maybe we'll stop aimlessly surfing for something amusing when we could actually be doing something fun. And, crucially, if the internet is just seen as occasionally unavoidable, maybe those websites that give us something special will be all the more amazing for it.

Give an infinite number of monkeys typewriters and they'll produce the works of Shakespeare. Unfortunately, I feel like I'm reading all the books where they didn't. I can't wait for the day when the internet makes me rejoice in its possibilities again. But right now, it's shit.
 

Regs

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Newbian
The art of polite disagreement

Screw you!!

it's true though, right? polite disagreement is not alive and well here. (for the most part :p )

I'm pretty good at this at work. Not to hold bias, be judgemental, or grudge. Something a women can never do.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Newbian
The art of polite disagreement

Screw you!!

it's true though, right? polite disagreement is not alive and well here. (for the most part :p )

I'm pretty good at this at work. Not to hold bias, be judgemental, or grudge. Something a women can never do.

this isn't talking about at real life at your work... it's talking about on the internet.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Newbian
The art of polite disagreement

Screw you!!

it's true though, right? polite disagreement is not alive and well here. (for the most part :p )

I'm pretty good at this at work. Not to hold bias, be judgemental, or grudge. Something a women can never do.

this isn't talking about at real life at your work... it's talking about on the internet.

I will have to respectfully disagree with you there.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Newbian
The art of polite disagreement

Screw you!!

it's true though, right? polite disagreement is not alive and well here. (for the most part :p )

I'm pretty good at this at work. Not to hold bias, be judgemental, or grudge. Something a women can never do.

this isn't talking about at real life at your work... it's talking about on the internet.

I will have to respectfully disagree with you there.

Thank you kind sir, but I think people take the liberty to be much more rude and confrontational on the internet than in real life.
 

ultimatebob

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They forgot to put newspapers in this list, which are obsolete for sooo many reasons:

Front page --> CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, NPR
Sports page --> ESPN
Business page --> CNBC
Classifieds --> eBay, Craigslist
Comics? Hmm... nobody has really pulled that one off yet. Give me a site where I can get all of my favorite comics on one page, and I'll never need to look at a Sunday paper again.
 

Regs

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Newbian
The art of polite disagreement

Screw you!!

it's true though, right? polite disagreement is not alive and well here. (for the most part :p )

I'm pretty good at this at work. Not to hold bias, be judgemental, or grudge. Something a women can never do.

this isn't talking about at real life at your work... it's talking about on the internet.

I will have to respectfully disagree with you there.

Thank you kind sir, but I think people take the liberty to be much more rude and confrontational on the internet than in real life.


Hm, without this turning into a complete mind job thread, lets think about the possibilities.

"Fear that you are the only person unmoved by a celebrity's death"

Not exactly sure what the internet is doing to kill this phenomenem. People always fear death in real life and always need an answer why. Because it hits home to them. Some phycologist even go as far as saying the only true reason why people morn death is because if they fill sorry or morn the decease they're doing so thinking the same thing won't happen to them. It's not really that we felt any emotional attachment. What if your mother died today, why would you cry? Because a living being that has been with you for all your life, who you use to thought to be a invincible protector as a child, is now dead. How scared will you be of death then and how much morning you will go through to try to convince yourself the same thing won't happen to you?


Our internet personas and our human sociology itself is no more than a broken mirror of our true selves. This broken mirror has cracks that show the illusion of safety, fortitude, comfort, and freedom. The internet shows how chaotic humanity really can be without the illusion of reality.

Did I go deep enough?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Newbian
The art of polite disagreement

Screw you!!

it's true though, right? polite disagreement is not alive and well here. (for the most part :p )

I'm pretty good at this at work. Not to hold bias, be judgemental, or grudge. Something a women can never do.

this isn't talking about at real life at your work... it's talking about on the internet.

I will have to respectfully disagree with you there.

Thank you kind sir, but I think people take the liberty to be much more rude and confrontational on the internet than in real life.


Hm, without this turning into a complete mind job thread, lets think about the possibilities.

"Fear that you are the only person unmoved by a celebrity's death"

Not exactly sure what the internet is doing to kill this phenomenem. People always fear death in real life and always need an answer why. Because it hits home to them. Some phycologist even go as far as saying the only true reason why people morn death is because if they fill sorry or morn the decease they're doing so thinking the same thing won't happen to them. It's not really that we felt any emotional attachment. What if your mother died today, why would you cry? Because a living being that has been with you for all your life, who you use to thought to be a invincible protector as a child, is now dead. How scared will you be of death then and how much morning you will go through to try to convince yourself the same thing won't happen to you?


Our internet personas and our human sociology itself is no more than a broken mirror of our true selves. This broken mirror has cracks that show the illusion of safety, fortitude, comfort, and freedom. The internet shows how chaotic humanity really can be without the illusion of reality.

Did I go deep enough?
No... go deeper yet :evil:
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
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Alan Cohen, V.P. of Airespace, a new Wi-Fi provider, New York Times, 6/29/03

...I can walk into any public library, no matter how tiny and underfunded, and find facts, stories, amazing information I would never touch in a month of webcrawling...I can't wait for the day when the internet makes me rejoice in its possibilities again. But right now, it's shit.

Using the search THROUGH a library's website opens up a ton of info that you never find on Google. Going there is better.

 

reallyscrued

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Isn't Google trying to make digital records of all books? That would be killer.

Ruby, there's obviously stuff in brick and mortar buildings that can't be accessed from the internet, but all that says to me is that there is a need to digitize all the information that cannot be accessed via the web.
 

MoPHo

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Telegrams? Really? Did they die because of the internet or just that the 20's ended?

Anyways, they left out a major one: Grammar. I don't know why universities won't allow you to crank out an essay that uses the words "lawlz", "ur" or "dunno". More importantly, why CAN'T I quote wikipedia as a source yet?

These are the questions that I ax you.
 

l0cke

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Comics? Hmm... nobody has really pulled that one off yet. Give me a site where I can get all of my favorite comics on one page, and I'll never need to look at a Sunday paper again.

Try RSS feeds.
 

frostedflakes

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31) Privacy
We may attack governments for the spread of surveillance culture, but users of social media websites make more information about themselves available than Big Brother could ever hoped to obtain by covert means.
This one is really spot on. It's kind of crazy how much personal information some people are willing to put up on the internet for anyone to see. I don't so much worry about the older folks, but adolescents are a different story.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
31) Privacy
We may attack governments for the spread of surveillance culture, but users of social media websites make more information about themselves available than Big Brother could ever hoped to obtain by covert means.
This one is really spot on. It's kind of crazy how much personal information some people are willing to put up on the internet for anyone to see. I don't so much worry about the older folks, but adolescents are a different story.

privacy still exists, for the people who are not dumb.

Never give a good tool to an idiot :laugh:
 

grrl

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>>2) Fear that you are the only person unmoved by a celebrity's death
Twitter has become a clearing-house for jokes about dead famous people. Tasteless, but an antidote to the "fans in mourning" mawkishness that otherwise predominates.

If true, I might actually check out Twitter.


 
Mar 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Newbian
The art of polite disagreement

Screw you!!

it's true though, right? polite disagreement is not alive and well here. (for the most part :p )

I don't think it is. Now, debate is much more in your face (especially about politics). I think that the majority of people on most topics are in the grey area, but the extreme viewpoints get much more publicity. With the amount of topics for serious discussion, let alone things as simple as brand (Ford vs Chevy, Pepsi vs Coke, etc), everyone has things they feel strongly about and because of modern society, we're just much more aware of it all.

Really that's a bunch of crap though and it boils down to the fact that people have never been really polite/civil, or at least not any moreso than they are now.

And #16 is just plain wrong. If anything conspiracy theories are even more prevalent. Sure its easy to check them out, but people seem also more willing to believe just about anything. Although, I think, like polite debate, there's no real change, we just feel there is based on our own experiences/viewpoints.