5 members of Congress arrested

[sactoking]

Blurb

So, 5 members of congress were arrested for protesting at the Sudanese embassy. It seems like protests are usually the way you voice your displeasure when you're not part of the 'establishment'. One could argue that members of Congress are part of the 'establishment' while at the same time, they're not directly tied to diplomats like the Executive.

What are your thoughts?

I don't have the right word for what I think, but it seems a bit..... off, to me. Surely there are better ways for members of Congress to get things done through channels. I support the right to gather and protest, but I guess to me this is very poor judgment on the part of the 5 arrested.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: sactoking

So, 5 members of congress were arrested for protesting at the Sudanese embassy. It seems like protests are usually the way you voice your displeasure when you're not part of the 'establishment'. One could argue that members of Congress are part of the 'establishment' while at the same time, they're not directly tied to diplomats like the Executive.

What are your thoughts?

Members of Congress are supposedly human beings with the same rights to assemble peacefully to voice their grievances as other American citizens. Good for them for standing up to be counted. :beer: :thumbsup:

 

[MotF Bane]

They're members of Congress, why are they protesting instead of drafting up a bill for doing something? I don't see why they were arrested anyways.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: sactoking

So, 5 members of congress were arrested for protesting at the Sudanese embassy. It seems like protests are usually the way you voice your displeasure when you're not part of the 'establishment'. One could argue that members of Congress are part of the 'establishment' while at the same time, they're not directly tied to diplomats like the Executive.

What are your thoughts?

Members of Congress are supposedly human beings with the same rights to assemble peacefully to voice their grievances as other American citizens. Good for them for standing up to be counted. :beer: :thumbsup:

2x :beer: :thumbsup: although, it would be nice if they could get something more productive done than getting arrested. If I were one of their constituents, I might not be as thrilled to know they were out protesting on behalf of people in Darfur and not representing my interests in congress like they're supposed to. But then again, if they were off the clock so to speak, I wouldn't have much room to complain.. I'm not about to tell someone what they can and can't do with their free time.

After all is said and done, I have to come down on the side of :beer: :thumbsup: More awareness about Darfur can only be a good thing.. especially since I'm too lazy/unmotivated to go out and actually do anything about it myself

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
They're members of Congress, why are they protesting instead of drafting up a bill for doing something? I don't see why they were arrested anyways.

The right is pretty cluesless, it seems about the concepts here - of leadership, populism, protest, democracy.

These Congress members presumably were leading by being close to the people and demonstrating their commitment to the issue by sowing they weren't off in some ivory tower sending a memo of approval to the masses but too good to get close to them, but rather providing an 'inspiring presence' that increases the energy of the protestors - and not incidentally probably the political loyalty of the protestors to the members as well.

It's not everyone's style; I don't see a John Kennedy as likely to get arrested at a protest.

But I could sure see Robert Kennedy doing so, perhaps alongside his friend Caser Chavez.

Frankly, I'm not too comfortable with arrest at a protest myself; I'm more of the hands off write the letter approach, but I appreciate the other style and see it as important too.

As for the alternative suggested here - it's often meaningless for a member to 'write a bill' that will go nowhere, basically unreported and filed in a drawer.

It's healthy in a democracy to get people - the public - engaged and active; there is some danger of mob mentality (hello, Fox tea parties?) but it's outweighed by the danger to democracy of a people who don't get involved and do not perform the due diligence and oversight they are supposed to for their government.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: sactoking

So, 5 members of congress were arrested for protesting at the Sudanese embassy. It seems like protests are usually the way you voice your displeasure when you're not part of the 'establishment'. One could argue that members of Congress are part of the 'establishment' while at the same time, they're not directly tied to diplomats like the Executive.

What are your thoughts?

Members of Congress are supposedly human beings with the same rights to assemble peacefully to voice their grievances as other American citizens. Good for them for standing up to be counted. :beer: :thumbsup:

Unless you are a conservative at a teaparty then you are a moron, idiot, stupid, etc for peacefully voicing their grievances.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
They're members of Congress, why are they protesting instead of drafting up a bill for doing something? I don't see why they were arrested anyways.

The right is pretty cluesless, it seems about the concepts here - of leadership, populism, protest, democracy.

These Congress members presumably were leading by being close to the people and demonstrating their commitment to the issue by sowing they weren't off in some ivory tower sending a memo of approval to the masses but too good to get close to them, but rather providing an 'inspiring presence' that increases the energy of the protestors - and not incidentally probably the political loyalty of the protestors to the members as well.

It's not everyone's style; I don't see a John Kennedy as likely to get arrested at a protest.

But I could sure see Robert Kennedy doing so, perhaps alongside his friend Caser Chavez.

Frankly, I'm not too comfortable with arrest at a protest myself; I'm more of the hands off write the letter approach, but I appreciate the other style and see it as important too.

As for the alternative suggested here - it's often meaningless for a member to 'write a bill' that will go nowhere, basically unreported and filed in a drawer.

It's healthy in a democracy to get people - the public - engaged and active; there is some danger of mob mentality (hello, Fox tea parties?) but it's outweighed by the danger to democracy of a people who don't get involved and do not perform the due diligence and oversight they are supposed to for their government.

Yep, with conservatives do it its mob mentality. When liberals get arrested its peaceful protest.. I got you.

 

[Jaskalas]

Is their position on Darfur such a small minority that they cannot get real action done on it through the halls of Congress?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: sactoking

So, 5 members of congress were arrested for protesting at the Sudanese embassy. It seems like protests are usually the way you voice your displeasure when you're not part of the 'establishment'. One could argue that members of Congress are part of the 'establishment' while at the same time, they're not directly tied to diplomats like the Executive.

What are your thoughts?

Members of Congress are supposedly human beings with the same rights to assemble peacefully to voice their grievances as other American citizens. Good for them for standing up to be counted. :beer: :thumbsup:

Unless you are a conservative at a teaparty then you are a moron, idiot, stupid, etc for peacefully voicing their grievances.

No, if you are a conservative at a teaparty, you are a moron, idiot, stupid, etc because you are a conservative Being at a tea party and voicing their grievances is secondary to that

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Is their position on Darfur such a small minority that they cannot get real action done on it through the halls of Congress?

The right is pretty cluesless, it seems about the concepts here - of leadership, populism, protest, democracy. You see, the Democrats have control in Congress.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Is their position on Darfur such a small minority that they cannot get real action done on it through the halls of Congress?

The right is pretty cluesless, it seems about the concepts here - of leadership, populism, protest, democracy. You see, the Democrats have control in Congress.

Democrats may have control of Congress, but you didn't see the entire party lined up to get arrested today. I figure these 5 decided to protest because they lack the power to do anything else.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Unless you are a conservative at a teaparty then you are a moron, idiot, stupid, etc for peacefully voicing their grievances.

Nobody arrested any of the teabaggers. We just laughed at the dumbasses because, as usual, they didn't know their collective asses from the proverbial hole in the ground they were digging for themselves.

< clue >

All the taxes you idiots were protesting were Bush admin taxes, and whichever Faux Noise jackass thought it was a clever name didn't have a clue about the colloquial meaning of the term.

1. Tea Bagged 139 up, 53 down love it hate it

TEABAGGING IS THE PROCESS OF ONES TESTICALS PROUDLY HANGING 2CM FROM your girlfriends mouth. Whilst dipping your love spuds in her mout ask if she would like the teabag left in. I can tell you now Steve erwin does not recomend teabagging with an old croc
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(Yes, there's more)

You're just lucky stupidity isn't a crime. :Q :laugh:

 

[bbdub333]

Originally posted by: Harvey
whichever Faux Noise jackass thought it was a clever name didn't have a clue about the colloquial meaning of the term.

1. Tea Bagged 139 up, 53 down love it hate it

TEABAGGING IS THE PROCESS OF ONES TESTICALS PROUDLY HANGING 2CM FROM your girlfriends mouth. Whilst dipping your love spuds in her mout ask if she would like the teabag left in. I can tell you now Steve erwin does not recomend teabagging with an old croc
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(Yes, there's more)

You're just lucky stupidity isn't a crime. :Q :laugh:

Do you even have any idea what you are saying anymore, or are you just on auto-stupid?

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper interspersed "teabagging" references with analyst David Gergen's more staid commentary on how Republicans are still "searching for their voice."

"It's hard to talk when you're teabagging," Cooper explained. Gergen laughed, but Cooper kept a straight face.

MSNBC's David Shuster weaved a tapestry of "Animal House" humor Monday as he filled in for Countdown host Keith Olbermann.

The protests, he explained, amount to "Teabagging day for the right wing and they are going nuts for it."

He described the parties as simultaneously "full-throated" and "toothless," and continued: "They want to give President Obama a strong tongue-lashing and lick government spending." Shuster also noted how the protesters "whipped out" the demonstrations this past weekend.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: bbdub333

Do you even have any idea what you are saying anymore, or are you just on auto-stupid?

Next time you consider using the term "auto-stupid," please be sure to check the mirror for the definition. :laugh:

Tea Bag the White House

I don't think teabagging the Whitehouse means what you think it means.

I'm not sure even the jolly green giant has the balls to teabag the Whitehouse.

TEABAG PARTY!

It has since come to our attention that "teabagging means putting your testicles in someone's mouth.

I can find lots more. :laugh:

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: bbdub333

Do you even have any idea what you are saying anymore, or are you just on auto-stupid?

Next time you consider using the term "auto-stupid," please be sure to check the mirror for the definition. :laugh:

Tea Bag the White House

I don't think teabagging the Whitehouse means what you think it means.

I'm not sure even the jolly green giant has the balls to teabag the Whitehouse.

TEABAG PARTY!

It has since come to our attention that "teabagging means putting your testicles in someone's mouth.

I can find lots more. :laugh:

Yes Harvey, we know you act like a 10 year old and still think the teabagging line is funny. The rest of us moved on like 2 weeks ago. Yet you continue to act like a moron. Teabag.. yeah, it means to dip your balls onto someone's face.. hahahaha.. so funny.. Ok, can we move on now and discuss why Republicans are stupid for protesting and democrats are doing their civic duty?

Honestly I don't give a shit if its Bush's taxes or Obamas.. they're too high now and they will go even higher when we have to pay for all of Obama's new spending.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Honestly I don't give a shit if its Bush's taxes or Obamas.. they're too high now and they will go even higher when we have to pay for all of Obama's new spending.

Before you further derail the thread to cry about spending, remember which jackass brought up the teabagging parties in this thread and whose EX-Traitor In Chief's criminal administration squandered a surpluss and thousands of lives on a war of LIES and squandered more trillions by failing to oversee the criminality of his wealthy Wall Street robber baron contributors that necessitated all that spending you're pissing an moaning about.

In case you forgot, that would be YOU. :Q

If you still feel the need to talk about it, bump any of the previous threads about it, or start another one.

Now, let's get back to the subject of the five members of Congress who were noble enough to stand up for a cause they support. :beer: :thumbsup:

 

[Kadarin]

The news is reporting that Mia Farrow is now on a hunger strike over Darfur.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30335369/

All I can do upon hearing that is shrug.

 

[F1N3ST]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Is their position on Darfur such a small minority that they cannot get real action done on it through the halls of Congress?

Gross, is my math wrong or if there's 300m people in the united states, 13 trillion spent is $43,333.33 per person >_<

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: sactoking

So, 5 members of congress were arrested for protesting at the Sudanese embassy. It seems like protests are usually the way you voice your displeasure when you're not part of the 'establishment'. One could argue that members of Congress are part of the 'establishment' while at the same time, they're not directly tied to diplomats like the Executive.

What are your thoughts?

Members of Congress are supposedly human beings with the same rights to assemble peacefully to voice their grievances as other American citizens. Good for them for standing up to be counted. :beer: :thumbsup:

Their job is to "protest" from Congress and they can't do their job from jail.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Their job is to "protest" from Congress and they can't do their job from jail.

Their job is to represent their constituants. Members of Congress getting arrested for participating in a public protest over matters of principle are drawing attention to the issue. Otherwise, there would be no article at the OP's link or any discussion on this or any other forums so it must have worked.

The only question for their constitutants is whether they support their representatives' stance on the issue. If so, they win. If not, they'll find out no later than the next election.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Honestly I don't give a shit if its Bush's taxes or Obamas.. they're too high now and they will go even higher when we have to pay for all of Obama's new spending.

Before you further derail the thread to cry about spending, remember which jackass brought up the teabagging parties in this thread and whose EX-Traitor In Chief's criminal administration squandered a surpluss and thousands of lives on a war of LIES and squandered more trillions by failing to oversee the criminality of his wealthy Wall Street robber baron contributors that necessitated all that spending you're pissing an moaning about.

In case you forgot, that would be YOU. :Q

If you still feel the need to talk about it, bump any of the previous threads about it, or start another one.

Now, let's get back to the subject of the five members of Congress who were noble enough to stand up for a cause they support. :beer: :thumbsup:

And your teabagging comments didn't derail the thread? You are such a hypocrite. My comments were on topic. Why are conservatives who protest considered idiots and liberals who do it doing their civic duty? You went on to talk about teabagging like a child. Saying you could 'find lots more'.. How is THAT not derailing the thread jackass?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

They crossed police lines and were arrested. Protesting peacefully does not involve acting unlawfully. If members of Congress want to protest peacefully they should do it within the law. In fact, they should be expected to set a good example, not a bad one. They set a bad one here.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: sactoking

So, 5 members of congress were arrested for protesting at the Sudanese embassy. It seems like protests are usually the way you voice your displeasure when you're not part of the 'establishment'. One could argue that members of Congress are part of the 'establishment' while at the same time, they're not directly tied to diplomats like the Executive.

What are your thoughts?

Members of Congress are supposedly human beings with the same rights to assemble peacefully to voice their grievances as other American citizens. Good for them for standing up to be counted. :beer: :thumbsup:

Their job is to "protest" from Congress and they can't do their job from jail.

Could it be that Congressmen with guts scare you?

 

[SilentRunning]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Unless you are a conservative at a teaparty then you are a moron, idiot, stupid, etc for peacefully voicing their grievances.

Nobody arrested any of the teabaggers. We just laughed at the dumbasses because, as usual, they didn't know their collective asses from the proverbial hole in the ground they were digging for themselves.

< clue >

All the taxes you idiots were protesting were Bush admin taxes, and whichever Faux Noise jackass thought it was a clever name didn't have a clue about the colloquial meaning of the term.

1. Tea Bagged 139 up, 53 down love it hate it

TEABAGGING IS THE PROCESS OF ONES TESTICALS PROUDLY HANGING 2CM FROM your girlfriends mouth. Whilst dipping your love spuds in her mout ask if she would like the teabag left in. I can tell you now Steve erwin does not recomend teabagging with an old croc
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(Yes, there's more)

You're just lucky stupidity isn't a crime. :Q :laugh:

Point one: They were not protesting Bush admin taxes. But you would have to actually pay attention to figure that out.

Point two: Tea Party does not equal Tea Bagged.

Point three: They morons that use the term Tea Bagging are the ones exercising their stupidity. The fact that liberals have named an activity they enjoy participating in Tea Bagging and then using that term for the tea party participants only makes the liberals look like fools for having engaged in Tea Bagging themselves.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Oh, they set a good example, raised the bar on expectations too.