5.1 Analog out is off the hook

[Goosemaster]

I want to go higher but the walls are shaking

For some odd reason the reciever tops out at 80 using digital imputs but with analog it goes all the way to 92:Q

 

[apac]

That can't be good for your speakers/ears. I play 5.1 movies at about -5 and my receiver goes to +15. At 0 conversation is impossible.

 

[cjgallen]

Headroom is good

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: apac
That can't be good for your speakers/ears. I play 5.1 movies at about -5 and my receiver goes to +15. At 0 conversation is impossible.

They seem to be doing well...

The ONLY problem I am getting is that ac3filter resets itself when I am playign a DD HD file with commercials..it is annoying and sounds like speaker clipping but I guess it is not....

Hopefully I can fix that.


I must say, thsi card (audigy2 ZS) is VERY VERY impressive. DTS is fvkign insane. Appearantly my soundstorm had a 20 or 24bit limit in digital ouput so maybe it is all in my head, but I swear it sounds better The channel seperation is so well done. Perhaps the decoder on the Audigy is better than the one on my Onkyo tx-sr600?

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: apac
That can't be good for your speakers/ears. I play 5.1 movies at about -5 and my receiver goes to +15. At 0 conversation is impossible.

They seem to be doing well...

The ONLY problem I am getting is that ac3filter resets itself when I am playign a DD HD file with commercials..it is annoying and sounds like speaker clipping but I guess it is not....

Hopefully I can fix that.


I must say, thsi card (audigy2 ZS) is VERY VERY impressive. DTS is fvkign insane. Appearantly my soundstorm had a 20 or 24bit limit in digital ouput so maybe it is all in my head, but I swear it sounds better The channel seperation is so well done. Perhaps the decoder on the Audigy is better than the one on my Onkyo tx-sr600?

Are you doing a digital line going from your card to the reciever? Are you sure it's not stereo? Because every time I go from the "digital port" on the card to the reciever, it only does stereo...

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: apac
That can't be good for your speakers/ears. I play 5.1 movies at about -5 and my receiver goes to +15. At 0 conversation is impossible.

They seem to be doing well...

The ONLY problem I am getting is that ac3filter resets itself when I am playign a DD HD file with commercials..it is annoying and sounds like speaker clipping but I guess it is not....

Hopefully I can fix that.


I must say, thsi card (audigy2 ZS) is VERY VERY impressive. DTS is fvkign insane. Appearantly my soundstorm had a 20 or 24bit limit in digital ouput so maybe it is all in my head, but I swear it sounds better The channel seperation is so well done. Perhaps the decoder on the Audigy is better than the one on my Onkyo tx-sr600?

Whoa whoa wait a minute.....

I have that same reciever and sound card. Except I'm not using the audigy 2 zs because I have Soundstorm. Should I be using the analog out of the audigy instead of the Dolby Digital live?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: apac
That can't be good for your speakers/ears. I play 5.1 movies at about -5 and my receiver goes to +15. At 0 conversation is impossible.

They seem to be doing well...

The ONLY problem I am getting is that ac3filter resets itself when I am playign a DD HD file with commercials..it is annoying and sounds like speaker clipping but I guess it is not....

Hopefully I can fix that.


I must say, thsi card (audigy2 ZS) is VERY VERY impressive. DTS is fvkign insane. Appearantly my soundstorm had a 20 or 24bit limit in digital ouput so maybe it is all in my head, but I swear it sounds better The channel seperation is so well done. Perhaps the decoder on the Audigy is better than the one on my Onkyo tx-sr600?

Are you doing a digital line going from your card to the reciever? Are you sure it's not stereo? Because every time I go from the "digital port" on the card to the reciever, it only does stereo...

I am using 5.1 analog out No digital here

You are probably refering to PCM. Unless your card can encode a DD signal (only the soundstorm can) it will only output PCM. That said, most cards support passthough so when a DD or DTS signal is detected it is straight to the reciever and your little DD or DTS light should light up, heralding some serious sound

In my case I am allowing the creative card to to the D/A conversion for me. My reciever already has 192/24 DACs but the real benefit of using analog was for the D/A conversion of formats that my reciever doesn't support, such as PLIIx and EAX.

I am just surprised at how great the audio sounds for a consumer card. Honestly, deep down in my soul, I was expecting to take a hit in quality, but that is not the case I really can't tell the difference between digital out(soundstorm) and the analog output of this card. It is simply devine with everything I throw at it....

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Skiguy411

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: apac
That can't be good for your speakers/ears. I play 5.1 movies at about -5 and my receiver goes to +15. At 0 conversation is impossible.

They seem to be doing well...

The ONLY problem I am getting is that ac3filter resets itself when I am playign a DD HD file with commercials..it is annoying and sounds like speaker clipping but I guess it is not....

Hopefully I can fix that.


I must say, thsi card (audigy2 ZS) is VERY VERY impressive. DTS is fvkign insane. Appearantly my soundstorm had a 20 or 24bit limit in digital ouput so maybe it is all in my head, but I swear it sounds better The channel seperation is so well done. Perhaps the decoder on the Audigy is better than the one on my Onkyo tx-sr600?

Whoa whoa wait a minute.....

I have that same reciever and sound card. Except I'm not using the audigy 2 zs because I have Soundstorm. Should I be using the analog out of the audigy instead of the Dolby Digital live?

Hell yeah boi....

Using soundstorm you are rather limited in what surround sound formats you can use. Chronicles of riddick was really good on soundstorm but no where near as good as it is right now. since it was engineered for eax and you are encoding that into DD it jsut isn't the same. The channel seperation is SOOOO much better....

I had to spend $29 for 4 sets of minijac to RCA adaptors (one for the coax Digital out in case I could get it to work which I can't ) but it was worth it.

I had to mess with msot of my programs to get thigns working right (ac3 filter as I mentioned ) but now it kicks ass...

That...and I like having "multichannel" displayed on the reciever

 

[Goosemaster]

most of this is placeboic in nature, but at least it sounds as good as what my reciever can dish out


<----listening to HDCD RCA victor recording of Heifetz and couldn't be happier...


I really can't confirm the capacity of the soundstorm however. I remember reading like I wrote that its limit was 20 or 24bits but I can't confirm it....I guess in the end it sounds the same but that jsut means it still souns fvkign great and I get all the enxtra fetures...


oh..and I forgot to mention that creative's software is fvking bloated as hell...nothing to cry home about with 1GB of ram and space to spare but still....

 

[Goosemaster]

I guess I have changed my tune ...hopefully for the better

 

[dug777]

So whats the diff in sound quality b/w a hardware DTS decoder and using a software DTS decoder?

I find using the DTS decoder on PowerDVD the channel separation is excellent listening to my Eagles Hell Freezes Over DVD on my 5.1 spkrs

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: dug777
So whats the diff in sound quality b/w a hardware DTS decoder and using a software DTS decoder?

I find using the DTS decoder on PowerDVD the channel separation is excellent listening to my Eagles Hell Freezes Over DVD on my 5.1 spkrs

Depends on your setup. In thsi case you are using analog out, no? I nthat case it depends on the analog out quality of your Soundcard and not on your reciever and speakers (amp if computer) as much.

 

[Skiguy411]

Well you have convinced me to try it out.

This is what you use to get the signal into the reciever right?

This could get somewhat expensive.....

 

[Skiguy411]

Actually, is this good enough?

 

[Phoenix86]

Does it go to 11?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Skiguy411
Actually, is this good enough?

That is exactly what I used.

 

[Skiguy411]

One more question. I'm guessing I wont be able to take advantage of my 6.1 setup will I?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Skiguy411
One more question. I'm guessing I wont be able to take advantage of my 6.1 setup will I?

I don't know. The last plug on the card is a tri-lug which has 3rings and three channels. If you can find somethign that does that it'll work....or order the cables from creative

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: Skiguy411
One more question. I'm guessing I wont be able to take advantage of my 6.1 setup will I?

I don't know. The last plug on the card is a tri-lug which has 3rings and three channels. If you can find somethign that does that it'll work....or order the cables from creative

Well looking at the back of the reciever, I don't see anywhere that allows the input of a center back speaker.

 

[knyghtbyte]

DTS sound is just sooooo superior to DD......crisp and clean and lovely and crunchy and and and.....heh...so glad my first receiver had DTS decoding, would never have known how good it gets...lol
my newest equipment, Denon 3910 DVD player has the most fantastic DTS decoding onboard, i feed it to the amp thru the ext inputs and its just amazing.......
my audigy2 was the 6.1 which only had DD, and quite frankly its not bad, on a par with my first receiver, but doesnt touch my Denon 3803 receiver and is wooden spoon in comparison to the DVD player...lol
only downside to the Denon DVD player is it only does 5.1 on the internal decoding (its meant really for 5.1 DVD-Audio/SACD), so when i wanna watch LOTR special eds with 6.1 DTS Discrete i gotta feed coax to my amp and let that do the work, still bloody astounding tho...lol

 

[SP33Demon]

What's the diff between the Audigy 2 ZS and the regular Audigy 2?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
DTS sound is just sooooo superior to DD......crisp and clean and lovely and crunchy and and and.....heh...so glad my first receiver had DTS decoding, would never have known how good it gets...lol
my newest equipment, Denon 3910 DVD player has the most fantastic DTS decoding onboard, i feed it to the amp thru the ext inputs and its just amazing.......
my audigy2 was the 6.1 which only had DD, and quite frankly its not bad, on a par with my first receiver, but doesnt touch my Denon 3803 receiver and is wooden spoon in comparison to the DVD player...lol
only downside to the Denon DVD player is it only does 5.1 on the internal decoding (its meant really for 5.1 DVD-Audio/SACD), so when i wanna watch LOTR special eds with 6.1 DTS Discrete i gotta feed coax to my amp and let that do the work, still bloody astounding tho...lol

Sounds nice.....the card actually does DTS encoding for me:

...and I agree with you concerning DTS as it has the potential to be much better, but it really depends on the track. For example, 'The fifth element' and 'catch me if you can' are both great DTS tracks, while others aren't as good.

enjoy it

 

[knyghtbyte]

i'd have to say the two best films i've seen for DTS are actually both Russell Crowe films...lol
Gladiator and Master & Commander. The sound is soooo well done on them.....

LOTR DTS was good, but could have been better in my opinion....

and yes Fifth Element and Catch Me If You Can was very good too...

i have got a DTS film that was rather poo, but i cant remember what it is atm.....(got around 300 or so films now..lol)

if you had the 7.1 Audigy2 then it will have DTS, i think the 6.1 only had DD....certainly mine did.

 

[dawks]

I just re-installed Window XP SP2 and my nVidia nForce2 Unified drivers, but can't get a setting to work quite right.. Before I re-installed, when I switched to Two Speaker mode, I could adjust the settings (like stereo, stereo 2x, Dolby Music, Dolby Movie), so I could get music from 5 speakers instead of just the four.. However now, my Logitech Z-680s stay on Dolby reguardless of whether I am on 5.1 or 2...

Any ideas? Its a weird problem, and mostly just annoying..

Thx you.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: apac
That can't be good for your speakers/ears. I play 5.1 movies at about -5 and my receiver goes to +15. At 0 conversation is impossible.

They seem to be doing well...

The ONLY problem I am getting is that ac3filter resets itself when I am playign a DD HD file with commercials..it is annoying and sounds like speaker clipping but I guess it is not....

Hopefully I can fix that.


I must say, thsi card (audigy2 ZS) is VERY VERY impressive. DTS is fvkign insane. Appearantly my soundstorm had a 20 or 24bit limit in digital ouput so maybe it is all in my head, but I swear it sounds better The channel seperation is so well done. Perhaps the decoder on the Audigy is better than the one on my Onkyo tx-sr600?

I love my A2 ZS as well..
dont know why so many people hate it...