4GB DDR2 memory (2 x 2048)

[JAG87]

I am thinking of putting 4GB of ram in my new computer this year, since I will be using WinXP x64. So after looking around a bit, and sipping some liquor after reading the outrageous prices I pose you a question:

So far all I have seen is 4GB Dual channel kits (2 x 2048) @ 533 mhz.

Since socket AM2 will support up to PC2-5400 (aka 667 mhz) DDR2 memory, I was wondering when 4GB kits at that speed will come out... I do not want to compromise speed for size! in the sense that I would rather take 2GB @ 667 than 4GB @ 533!


What do you guys think? Will we see these kits within 6 months?




PS: Please dont threadcrap about possible prices or uses for such ram, I really dont care!

 

[stevty2889]

I'd say there is a good chance of that happening within 6 months. But unless something drastic changes, X2's aren't going to benifit from higher clocked memory with higher latencies, and will likely perform better with 533mhz with lower latencies.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Thursday.

 

[Vegito]

lots of standard desktop can't take 2gb memory modules.. would be nice.. I have 2gb modules for my servers.. hopefully the next mem controller will support those..

 

[JAG87]

I'd say there is a good chance of that happening within 6 months. But unless something drastic changes, X2's aren't going to benifit from higher clocked memory with higher latencies, and will likely perform better with 533mhz with lower latencies.

stevty, would you go with 2GB @ 667 or 4GB @ 533 for a rig with a dual core FX?
if money is no concern obviously...

Thursday.

I hope you are not trying to mess with my brains, ive done enough googling.

lots of standard desktop can't take 2gb memory modules.. would be nice.. I have 2gb modules for my servers.. hopefully the next mem controller will support those..

Not likely. most motherboards support up to 4GB or ram, and generally the problem is Windows. But with x64 there are no problems at all.

 

[Vegito]

Originally posted by: JAG87
Not likely. most motherboards support up to 4GB or ram, and generally the problem is Windows. But with x64 there are no problems at all.

You figure now with 64 bit & new os, they'll design desktop mobo (next gen) to take 8gb mem..

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Vegito

Originally posted by: JAG87
Not likely. most motherboards support up to 4GB or ram, and generally the problem is Windows. But with x64 there are no problems at all.

You figure now with 64 bit & new os, they'll design desktop mobo (next gen) to take 8gb mem..

Probably, but thats just way too much. I would never use an entire 4GB nevermind 8.

 

[JAG87]

so any1 have any info on 4GB kits @ 667?

 

[JAG87]

keeping this thread in view

 

[stevty2889]

I would go with 2GB. You didn't really specify what you do, but in general right now, more than 2GB is a waste for a desktop system running windows XP. Windows doesn't allocate more than 2gb of memory to a single program. Doesn't actualy recognize the full 4Gb(see's it as 3.75GB). Using the /3GB switch will work with some things, but in general, it's just a complete waste.

 

[JAG87]

you probably missed the part where i wrote that I will be using winxp x64. 4 GB is peanuts for 64 bits. certainly enourmous for programs, but i want to be ahead of the game when Vista comes out.

 

[JAG87]

ne1?

 

[Pr0phetX]

i asked a similar question, i ended up ordering the two 2gb kits at 533. and when they release a btx mobo that supports more ram im getting that!

 

[shortylickens]

Please keep in mind you'll get better speed and command rates along wih lower latency if you use 2 GB. This will help with gaming performance.
As for video editing 4GB wont help much. Mostly because windows wont give the program all 4 Gigs.

Those are the two things that will stress a system to its limits.

 

[Pr0phetX]

Hes using Xp 64bit.


Its see's all 4gigs

 

[alimoalem]

what if the m2 boards can't support more than 4gig? can they?

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Pr0phetX
i asked a similar question, i ended up ordering the two 2gb kits at 533. and when they release a btx mobo that supports more ram im getting that!

dude, you know you can get 4GB in 1 kit at 533 right? OCZ Dual channel DDR2 Gold. for the PC4200 they have 4GB kits, 2 x 2048.

What I am looking for is 4GB at 667 mhz. I wont put 4 x 1024 sticks at 667, because that will rape my latencies. I need 2 x 2048 at 667, which is nowhere to be found right now.

And shorty, i know that 2GB kits have better rates, just like 1GB kits have better rates! But if you use 2 sticks of 2GB it wont be that bad, most likely 4-3-3-8 which im willing to live with if i can get 1T, 4GB, and 667 mhz. 2T is not an option, if I cant get that I will go with 2GB, 667 mhz.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: alimoalem
what if the m2 boards can't support more than 4gig? can they?

im not looking into more then 4GB, but it most likely will since Vista can go up to 128 GB of ram. Im pretty sure amd will design AM2 looking towards the future.

 

[Pr0phetX]

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: Pr0phetX
i asked a similar question, i ended up ordering the two 2gb kits at 533. and when they release a btx mobo that supports more ram im getting that!

dude, you know you can get 4GB in 1 kit at 533 right? OCZ Dual channel DDR2 Gold. for the PC4200 they have 4GB kits, 2 x 2048.

What I am looking for is 4GB at 667 mhz. I wont put 4 x 1024 sticks at 667, because that will rape my latencies. I need 2 x 2048 at 667, which is nowhere to be found right now.

And shorty, i know that 2GB kits have better rates, just like 1GB kits have better rates! But if you use 2 sticks of 2GB it wont be that bad, most likely 4-3-3-8 which im willing to live with if i can get 1T, 4GB, and 667 mhz. 2T is not an option, if I cant get that I will go with 2GB, 667 mhz.

link me

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: JAG87
but i want to be ahead of the game when Vista comes out.

Althought it is important to buy for the future if you do not upgrade for a long time, when we are talking about a next OS...hehe the future might be HL2 away Also in 6 months or end of 2006 when A64 would have shifted to AM2, DDR2 prices might fall as it becomes the standard for both platforms.

 

[Burner27]

Originally posted by: JAG87
you probably missed the part where i wrote that I will be using winxp x64. 4 GB is peanuts for 64 bits. certainly enourmous for programs, but i want to be ahead of the game when Vista comes out.

If you're planning for the future with Vista, don't waste your money. I have been using Vista for about 6 months and let me tell you this......it is a resource hog and those resources do not equal a performance increase over WinXP. Vista's footprint is a bit more than 4GB--by itself! Without any other software installed! If you want all the "normal" Vista eye candy turned on, your video card needs to be up to the task. That means your high end video card (x1800XT or 7800GTX w/256MB ram) is the MINIMUM requirement. Vista also uses 600MB + in memory just sitting there IDLE!

I'm sorry but that's just piss-poor coding by Micro$oft. You'd be better off running Ubuntu Linux than Vista.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Pr0phetX

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: Pr0phetX
i asked a similar question, i ended up ordering the two 2gb kits at 533. and when they release a btx mobo that supports more ram im getting that!

dude, you know you can get 4GB in 1 kit at 533 right? OCZ Dual channel DDR2 Gold. for the PC4200 they have 4GB kits, 2 x 2048.

What I am looking for is 4GB at 667 mhz. I wont put 4 x 1024 sticks at 667, because that will rape my latencies. I need 2 x 2048 at 667, which is nowhere to be found right now.

And shorty, i know that 2GB kits have better rates, just like 1GB kits have better rates! But if you use 2 sticks of 2GB it wont be that bad, most likely 4-3-3-8 which im willing to live with if i can get 1T, 4GB, and 667 mhz. 2T is not an option, if I cant get that I will go with 2GB, 667 mhz.

link me

Here you go
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_4200_gold_dual_channel

scroll at the bottom to parts numbers and you can see 4GB clearly (OCZ25334096ELDCGE-K)

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Burner127

Originally posted by: JAG87
you probably missed the part where i wrote that I will be using winxp x64. 4 GB is peanuts for 64 bits. certainly enourmous for programs, but i want to be ahead of the game when Vista comes out.

If you're planning for the future with Vista, don't waste your money. I have been using Vista for about 6 months and let me tell you this......it is a resource hog and those resources do not equal a performance increase over WinXP. Vista's footprint is a bit more than 4GB--by itself! Without any other software installed! If you want all the "normal" Vista eye candy turned on, your video card needs to be up to the task. That means your high end video card (x1800XT or 7800GTX w/256MB ram) is the MINIMUM requirement. Vista also uses 600MB + in memory just sitting there IDLE!

I'm sorry but that's just piss-poor coding by Micro$oft. You'd be better off running Ubuntu Linux than Vista.

600MB idling... that is exactly why i want 4GB. you just made my day thanks for warning me. As far as gpu, dont worry im planning for a pair of G71s, or if they come out in time for my upgrade in august a pair of G80s. But that is unlikely, it will probably be G71.

 

[Burner27]

You missed my point though. Vista really isn't much of an improvement over WinXP Pro. It looks prettier, but that's it.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Burner127
You missed my point though. Vista really isn't much of an improvement over WinXP Pro. It looks prettier, but that's it.

True, but it also has a lot of new fatures that XP doesnt have. For example IE7, is made for Vista, it will come out for XP as well but even Microsoft says that it will not be as secure as when it runs on Vista. Plus Vista will have a $hit load of features built in, like dvd authoring and such. If you ask me, its a well refined upgrade to XP x64, with a lot more built in programs for the user, and a lot more eye candy

but ill stick with XP x64 for a while, till all the holes are patched up in the new os.