49% Say Bush Responsible for Provoking Iraq War

[conjur]

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nick1985


so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

lol. Now that you put it that way is becomes so clear. Ya, we were the agressors when we stormed the French beaches to attack the Germans.

You have to forgive nick. Cognitive processes are not his forte.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Hmm lets see.

War was in Iraq.

We attacked Iraq, not the reverse.

Bush gave the orders.


Therefore Bush started it. Duh.

so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

Yes, that would be an excellent comparison if Iraq had attacked one of our allies. We didn't just attack Germany for the hell of it, they had occupied, like, all of Europe and were constantly attacking our closest ally. Your confusion is understandable, as these situations clearly had a lot in common.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nick1985


so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

lol. Now that you put it that way is becomes so clear. Ya, we were the agressors when we stormed the French beaches to attack the Germans.

You have to forgive nick. Cognitive processes are not his forte.

more personal attacks...:roll:

 

[Hacp]

Germany declared war on us after we declared war on japan after they attacked us at pearl harbor. So, Germany provoked us to attack them because they declared on us, not the other way around.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I bet 44% believe that Iraq was behind 9/11

QFT

Why, afraid it might be true? Afraid you might be in hte stupid camp after all?

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Hmm lets see.

War was in Iraq.

We attacked Iraq, not the reverse.

Bush gave the orders.


Therefore Bush started it. Duh.

so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

Yes, that would be an excellent comparison if Iraq had attacked one of our allies. We didn't just attack Germany for the hell of it, they had occupied, like, all of Europe and were constantly attacking our closest ally. Your confusion is understandable, as these situations clearly had a lot in common.

LOL.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nick1985


so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

lol. Now that you put it that way is becomes so clear. Ya, we were the agressors when we stormed the French beaches to attack the Germans.

You have to forgive nick. Cognitive processes are not his forte.

more personal attacks...:roll:

I agree, personal attacks are so unnecessary...especially when the substance of a post is so much easier to attack.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: nick1985
so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

Germany declared war first (a blunder by Hitler).

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: nick1985
so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

Germany declared war first (a blunder by Hitler).

Technically speaking, he owned up to his obligation as outlined in Axis Pact.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
I thought it was common knowledge that we invaded Iraq? 😕

hahaha :laugh::thumbsup:

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: nick1985
so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

Germany declared war first (a blunder by Hitler).

Technically speaking, he owned up to his obligation as outlined in Axis Pact.

errr..no.

Here is a little help from wikipedia:

Germany declared war on the United States on 11 December 1941, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. It was not obligated to do so under the Tripartite Pact of 1940. Hitler made the declaration in the hopes that Japan would support him by attacking the Soviet Union. Japan did not oblige him, and this diplomatic move proved a catastrophic blunder which gave President Franklin D. Roosevelt the pretext needed for the United States joining the fight in Europe with full commitment and with no meaningful opposition from Congress. Some historians mark this moment as another major turning point of the war with Hitler provoking a grand alliance of powerful nations who could wage powerful attacks on both East and West simultaneously.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Keep poking the big guy on the block and eventually he will flatten you.

Iraq was doing a lot of poking, what with those 9/11 attacks... oh wait...

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: nick1985
so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

Germany declared war first (a blunder by Hitler).

Technically speaking, he owned up to his obligation as outlined in Axis Pact.

errr..no.

Here is a little help from wikipedia:

Germany declared war on the United States on 11 December 1941, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. It was not obligated to do so under the Tripartite Pact of 1940. Hitler made the declaration in the hopes that Japan would support him by attacking the Soviet Union. Japan did not oblige him, and this diplomatic move proved a catastrophic blunder which gave President Franklin D. Roosevelt the pretext needed for the United States joining the fight in Europe with full commitment and with no meaningful opposition from Congress. Some historians mark this moment as another major turning point of the war with Hitler provoking a grand alliance of powerful nations who could wage powerful attacks on both East and West simultaneously.

ummm... no read the outline here At the time of signing, Japan was still recovering from a crushing blow dealt by the Soviet forces to Japanese 6th army in Mongolia earlier in August. USSR and Japan signed a temporary non-agression agreement (which Japanese did abide by until USSR attacked them shortly after Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings), one of the reasons why the Axis Pact includes Article 5. Hitler knew full well that Japan will not wage war against USSR. In fact, in September 1940 USSR was still flirting with the idea of joining the pact themselves, and opearation "Barbarossa" was still in eary planning stages (actuallyh even the codename was different, "Fritz") and has not been signed into order, and Hitler still agonizing over the decision whether to invade England or not.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: AnyMal
ummm... no read the outline here At the time of signing, Japan was still recovering from a crushing blow dealt by the Soviet forces to Japanese 6th army in Mongolia earlier in August. USSR and Japan signed a temporary non-agression agreement (which Japanese did abide by until USSR attacked them shortly after Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings), one of the reasons why the Axis Pact includes Article 5. Hitler knew full well that Japan will not wage war against USSR. In fact, in September 1940 USSR was still flirting with the idea of joining the pact, and plan "Barbarossa" was still in eary planning stages and has not been signed into order, and Hitler still agonizing over the decision whether to invade England or not.

*sigh*

Read Article 3 closely. Then read this under German declaration of war section. Hitler did not HAVE to declare war on the US. You were wrong about that, but I'm guessing you aren't going to admit it. In any case, that's the last I'll say about it since it's tangential.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nick1985


so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

lol. Now that you put it that way is becomes so clear. Ya, we were the agressors when we stormed the French beaches to attack the Germans.

You have to forgive nick. Cognitive processes are not his forte.

more personal attacks...:roll:

Try doing some thinking for once and you won't have to worry about it. Making idiotic statements like that just open you up to deserved ridicule.

 

[Jadow]

What good is a UN Resolution if there are no teeth? Bush brought back the teeth.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Jadow
What good is a UN Resolution if there are no teeth? Bush brought back the teeth.

False teeth

 

[Jadow]

ask Sadaam, Uday, and Quisay if they're false teeth

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Jadow
ask Sadaam, Uday, and Quisay if they're false teeth

Right after you ask Bush if he still wants the "insurgents" to "Bring it on".

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Jadow
ask Sadaam, Uday, and Quisay if they're false teeth

Ask the newly elected terrorist lead in Iran if he's over concerned about our teeth. Or Kim Jong Il. We're on the verge of being overextende as it is, and we've already burned through our troops morale capitol fighting a baseless war in the middle of the most hostile place on earth.

If you want to describe attacking enemies who are already weakened by years of econmic strangulation and hamstrung by a prior war with no hope of EVER being a true theat to our national security as "teeth" yeah, MAYBE, we might be able to fight another mock-war.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Jadow
ask Sadaam, Uday, and Quisay if they're false teeth

Where are the WMDs?

'nuff said.



Next?

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nick1985


so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

lol. Now that you put it that way is becomes so clear. Ya, we were the agressors when we stormed the French beaches to attack the Germans.

You have to forgive nick. Cognitive processes are not his forte.

more personal attacks...:roll:

Try doing some thinking for once and you won't have to worry about it. Making idiotic statements like that just open you up to deserved ridicule.

whether you feel i deserved it or not isnt your call. personal attacks are not allowed for any reason. you broke the rules, again. simple as that.

 

[conjur]

WAAAAH!


Get over yourself, nick. Grow some skin.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nick1985

so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

lol. Now that you put it that way is becomes so clear. Ya, we were the agressors when we stormed the French beaches to attack the Germans.

You have to forgive nick. Cognitive processes are not his forte.

more personal attacks...:roll:

Try doing some thinking for once and you won't have to worry about it. Making idiotic statements like that just open you up to deserved ridicule.

whether you feel i deserved it or not isnt your call. personal attacks are not allowed for any reason. you broke the rules, again. simple as that.

Stating the obvious isn't a personal attack. Grow a pair and stop your whining.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Martin

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nick1985

so because we attacked germany in WWII means we started the war? 😕

lol. Now that you put it that way is becomes so clear. Ya, we were the agressors when we stormed the French beaches to attack the Germans.

You have to forgive nick. Cognitive processes are not his forte.

more personal attacks...:roll:

Try doing some thinking for once and you won't have to worry about it. Making idiotic statements like that just open you up to deserved ridicule.

whether you feel i deserved it or not isnt your call. personal attacks are not allowed for any reason. you broke the rules, again. simple as that.

Stating the obvious isn't a personal attack. Grow a pair and stop your whining.

wow, you sure are mentally slow. i like stating the obvious...I think i will follow in Conjur's footsteps 🙂