49% Say Bush Chiefly To Blame for Big Deficit, 43% Blame Obama

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Americans overwhelmingly view the federal budget deficit as a major problem, and they blame President Bush and President Obama – and their respective parties - almost equally for the size of it. Most also believe the Bush Administration increased federal spending too much.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 49% of Adults say President George W. Bush and the Republicans are more responsible for the size of the current federal budget deficit. But 43% say President Obama and the Democrats are more responsible.

Predictably, 79% of Democrats see Bush and the GOP as more responsible, while 80% of Republicans point the finger at Obama and his party. Adults not affiliated with either party, by a 53% to 36% margin, say Bush and the Republicans are primarily to blame.

Eighty-one percent (81%) of all Americans view the size of the deficit as a major problem in terms of contributing to the country’s current economic situation. Only 16% say it’s a minor problem.

Most U.S. voters continue to believe that the nation’s current economic problems are due to the recession that began under the Bush administration rather than the policies Obama has put in place since taking office.

Fifty-six percent (56%) of Adults say the Bush administration increased government spending too much. Just 15% say Bush’s administration cut government spending too much, while 21% say it kept spending at about the right level.

The survey of 1,000 Adults was conducted on May 15-16, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

There is a high level of agreement across all demographic categories about the seriousness of the deficit in terms of the country’s current economic problems

Republicans feel even more strongly than Democrats and unaffiliateds that the federal budget deficit is a major economic problem.

Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democrats and 65% of unaffiliated adults think Bush’s administration increased government spending too much. Republican voters have mixed feelings: 44% say the Bush administration spent too much, while 41% say it kept government spending about right.

Two-out-of three investors (67%) say Bush’s administration increased government spending too much, a view shared by just 45% of non-investors. In fact, non-investors are nearly three times as likely as investors to think government spending was cut too much during the George W. Bush years.

Investors say the Bush administration and Obama administation are equally to blame for the size of the deficit, but most non-investors (52%) say the Bush administration is more responsible.

Thirty-five percent (35%) of voters now think Republicans and Democrats are so much alike that an entirely new political party is needed to represent the American people.

Most voters believe the just-passed national health care bill will add to the federal budget deficit, and 56% want the bill repealed.

Only 18% of Americans are willing to pay higher taxes to lower the federal deficit.

The president recently created a bipartisan national commission to recommend ways to reduce the deficit, and most voters expect it to propose tax increases rather than cuts in government spending. Voters also think Congress is much more likely to raise taxes if the commission recommends it than to follow any recommended spending cuts.

Eighty-three percent (83%) of Americans say the size of the federal budget deficit is due more to the unwillingness of politicians to cut government spending than to the reluctance of taxpayers to pay more in taxes.
I knew the Democrats would blame Bush and the Republicans would blame Obama, but I didn't expect a 17% point difference between the unaffiliated. Wow.
 

MotF Bane

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Nothing is really surprising; now if people would just vote that way, we'd be better off.
 

child of wonder

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"Your guy did it!"
"No, your guy did it!"
"Nuh uh! Your guy!"
"No, yours!"

Can we just STFU and fix the problem, please?
 

Anarchist420

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No it's Obama's fault. He's president now, he chose to continue one of Bush's wars and expand the other, he chooses to continue invading Europe and other places that don't want us like Japan, he submitted the past 2 budgets to Congress, he opposes legislation to have the states fill in the deficit based upon their population, and he opposes raising the age for SS. If I had been elected President, I would've had 1/3 of it paid off by now.
 

Slew Foot

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Bush got 8 years to grow the deficit, Obamas only had 18 months so far.
 
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Thump553

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Pretty pathetic short term memory. Don't they remember the stock market crashed, financial markets locked up and the bankruptcies occurred BEFORE the election? It is indisputable the crash occured on Bush's watch, the only way any blame could be put on Obama was if he made it worse.

I just finished readling Game Change (excellent book BTW, along the lines of The Making of A President series) which reminded of the whole McCain cancel the debate-call a meeting in Washington-sit like a lump at the meeting while Obama pretty much ran it by default. Even Bush couldn't figure out why McCain called the meeting.
 

QuantumPion

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This is with the ridiculously unrealistic low-ball estimate for the health care bill.
 

Throckmorton

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This is the important part:

Most U.S. voters continue to believe that the nation’s current economic problems are due to the recession that began under the Bush administration rather than the policies Obama has put in place since taking office.



What amazes is me is how many people on this forum still don't understand this. You can show them graph after graph showing that the vast majority of the deficit growth has been due to reduced revenue from the recession, and you can explain to them how stupid it would be to cut spending to match that revenue loss, but they'll still blame Obama. Is it just pure stupidity or political gamesmanship?
 

blackangst1

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Lets wait for health care to kick in. We wont know the full impact of Obama's budget until the next administration.
 

Siddhartha

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This is the important part:

Most U.S. voters continue to believe that the nation’s current economic problems are due to the recession that began under the Bush administration rather than the policies Obama has put in place since taking office.



What amazes is me is how many people on this forum still don't understand this. You can show them graph after graph showing that the vast majority of the deficit growth has been due to reduced revenue from the recession, and you can explain to them how stupid it would be to cut spending to match that revenue loss, but they'll still blame Obama. Is it just pure stupidity or political gamesmanship?

Considering how many of the forum's Bush supporters suddently became fiscal conservatives after 11/04/2010 I have to think this blaming Mr Obama for the deficits is politically motivated.
 

DAGTA

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Actually, how far back do you want to go? I wonder when more people will realize that playing Red Team / Blue Team is nothing but a distraction from the real problems.
 

Siddhartha

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This is with the ridiculously unrealistic low-ball estimate for the health care bill.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/08/deficit_numbers.html

The revised deficit numbers reported by the Congressional Budget Office and the Office of Management and Budget today show a lower deficit than previously estimated for 2009, with higher deficits for 2010 and beyond. Political opportunists will be busy looking for chances to score points over these numbers—pinning the dismal fiscal picture on the Obama administration.

The real story is, however, fairly obvious. The policies of the Bush administration, which included tax cuts during a time of war and a floundering economy, are clearly the primary source of the current deficits. The Obama administration policies that are beginning to give the economy a needed jumpstart—the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in particular—place a distant third in contributing to the 2009 and 2010 deficit numbers. The deficit picture for the years beyond still needs to be painted.

To come to these conclusions, we calculated the relative importance of the several factors contributing to the 2009 and 2010 deficits by looking at the impact in those years of various policies. A detailed description of our approach is at the end of this column. Below is the percentage share of the major contributing factors to the total deterioration from the surpluses projected in 2000 to the current deficits according to our analysis. The policies of President George W. Bush make up the largest share, followed by the current economic downturn, and then President Barack Obama’s policies.



Before explaining these further, it should be said that the generally worse deficit numbers reported today aren’t all that surprising. Since the last projections in May, it’s been plain that this recession has been worse than most analysts thought. With a weak economy comes lower tax revenue and higher safety net expenditures—with the loss in tax revenue causing the lion’s share of the deficit problem. The effects of a deeper recession have a long-lasting impact. Even as growth is restored, it is growth from a reduced starting point—a smaller economy in 2009 usually means a smaller economy than previously predicted for several years hence.

Encouragingly, there have been signs of late that the administration’s policies to end the recession are starting to take hold. Without such efforts, the picture would be much gloomier, particularly in the short term. One piece of good news is that the government is no longer expecting to spend another $250 billion rescuing financial institutions through the Troubled Assets Relief Program—which explains the improved deficit picture for 2009. And the projections for deficits in future years would be far more pessimistic if the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act policies were not starting to get traction.

As for the deficit’s cause, the single most important factor is the legacy of President George W. Bush’s legislative agenda. Overall, changes in federal law during the Bush administration are responsible for 40 percent of the short-term fiscal problem. For example, we estimate that the tax cuts passed during the Bush presidency are reducing government revenue collections by $231 billion in 2009. Also, because of the additions to the federal debt due to Bush administration policies, the government will be paying $218 billion more in interest payments in 2009.

Had President Bush not cut taxes while simultaneously prosecuting two foreign wars and adopting other programs without paying for them, the current deficit would be only 4.7 percent of gross domestic product this year, instead of the eye-catching 11.2 percent—despite the weak economy and the costly efforts taken to restore it. In 2010, the deficit would be 3.2 percent instead of 9.6 percent.

The weak economy also plays a major role in the deficit picture. The failure of Bush economic policies—fiscal irresponsibility, regulatory indifference, fueling of an asset and credit bubble, a failure to focus on jobs and incomes, and inaction as the economy started slipping—contributed mightily to the nation’s current economic situation. When the economy contracts, tax revenues decline and outlays increase for programs designed to keep people from falling deep into poverty (with the tax impact much larger than the spending impact). All told, the weak economy is responsible for 20 percent of the fiscal problems we face in 2009 and 2010.

President Obama’s policies have also contributed to the federal deficit—but only 16 percent of the projected budget deterioration for 2009 and 2010 are attributable to those policies. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, designed to help bring the economy out of the recession is, by far, the largest single additional public spending under this administration.

The cumulative cost of the financial sector rescue, mostly initiated under President Bush in response to the financial markets collapse, is also significant—contributing to 12 percent of the problem. A variety of other changes, described in the methodology section, are also contributors.

For the longer term, it’s a bit disingenuous to assign any responsibility for the deficits. That’s a story yet to be told, and CBO and OMB provide a selection of numbers to choose from for the long run. Much will depend on how the economy fares. If the Bush tax cuts, scheduled to expire at the end of 2010, were to be continued in their entirety there would be large deficits. If, as the Obama administration has proposed, they are only extended for those making under $250,000, then they still contribute to the deficit but not as substantially.

There are a number of similar budget items that have a long history for which one can, with equal legitimacy, assign responsibility to either their originators or current policymakers for continuing them. New Obama program initiatives, it’s important to note, contribute little to future deficits. The administration has insisted that its additional spending, especially on health care, be fully paid for with savings elsewhere in the budget and additional revenues. In fact, to address our budget challenges it is critical to reform health care which, through Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs, is the single biggest budget headache in the long run.

Regardless of responsibility, of course, the long-run deficit situation is one that needs to be addressed.

Michael Ettlinger is the Vice President for Economic Policy and Michael Linden is the Associate Director for Tax and Budget Policy at American Progress.

Methodology
Contributors to the nation’s fiscal situation in 2009 and 2010 (in billions of dollars), as measured against surpluses projected in 2001
 

umbrella39

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No it's Obama's fault. He's president now, he chose to continue one of Bush's wars and expand the other, he chooses to continue invading Europe and other places that don't want us like Japan, he submitted the past 2 budgets to Congress, he opposes legislation to have the states fill in the deficit based upon their population, and he opposes raising the age for SS. If I had been elected President, I would've had 1/3 of it paid off by now.

Thankfully while the clinically insane are allowed internet access they cannot run for president. Have your meds up'd.
 

cubby1223

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Considering how many of the forum's Bush supporters suddently became fiscal conservatives after 11/04/2010 I have to think this blaming Mr Obama for the deficits is politically motivated.

What do the 2010 elections have to do with anything?

If you weren't a partisan hack, you'd have realized that most are consistent. I was always saying during the 2008 campaign that I believe the federal deficit is the most urgent issue to this country. Even before the financial meltdown.

Bigger question is, where are all the spending hawks from the past decade now?
 

Siddhartha

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What do the 2010 elections have to do with anything?

If you weren't a partisan hack, you'd have realized that most are consistent. I was always saying during the 2008 campaign that I believe the federal deficit is the most urgent issue to this country. Even before the financial meltdown.

Bigger question is, where are all the spending hawks from the past decade now?

Where were the hysterical threads about deficits while Mr Bush was in office? Where was the Tea Pary when the Bush Tax Cuts were put in place?
 

Genx87

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Nice, what matters is the vagaries of public opinion, not the actual truth.

I agree, which is why I said give them a year or two. In 2 years when Obama's budgets are still busted beyond belief. Then we will actual truth it is his fault.