4850 overclocking gains in GRID: 775/1003 vs 625/993

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toyota

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Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: vj8usa
Originally posted by: toyota
what? 39-44 is a 13% gain

I think you're misinterpreting the numbers (or maybe I am). How I see it, the "oc'd" and "stock" values that you quoted are BOTH with the 3GHz CPU. The ones in the very first post in this thread are both with the CPU at stock. Both sets of data have 39/44 as the min FPS.

Don't mind toyota. He thinks CPU makes huge difference at GPU limited situations. He thought Crysis would run high setting on 8600gt if he has faster CPU.

there you go again with your lying BS, trolling and usual flamebaiting but everybody already knows what kind of person you are.


my comment to him was based on his own graph. go back and read his post because it does look like he had a gain from oc on the cpu but its hard to really tell exactly what he is saying.

I'm just quoting what you said. I can search the thread where you said that if you'd like. :laugh:

you already tried that over on techreport and you know that wasnt exactly what I said. we can also show that real mature pm that you sent me that is real though.


now back on topic I never said anything about his cpu and this game other than to question his graph.

Oh really? This is what you said about 8600gt playing crysis high detail..

high settings for non core2 cpu users? NO. medium settings at 1024x768 is playable until after the core level then its all low for the snow and carrier levels. with a good core2 duo you could probably put most of the settings on high at 1024x768. regardless of what people "think" Crysis is very cpu demanding below 1280x1024.

You want some more?

Originally posted by: toyota
IT IS CPU LIMITED AT 1280X1024 OR BELOW. your own link shows that a fast core2 cpu will nearly DOUBLE the framerate over an AMD cpu at 1024x768. below 1280 with my comp I would get a bigger increase in fps by going with a fast core2 cpu than going with a faster card and thats a fact. I used an 8800gt for two weeks and it only made 5 fps difference(from 31 to 36fps) at 1024 over my 8600gt.

I was saying that at 1024x768 a core 2 duo would help if you wanted to turn some settings up and I wasnt meaning with just using an 8600gt. a better cpu at 1024x768 would help but of course not much with an 8600gt.
 

AzN

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Nov 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: toyota
I was saying that at 1024x768 a core 2 duo would help if you wanted to turn some settings up and I wasnt meaning with just using an 8600gt. a better cpu at 1024x768 would help but of course not much with an 8600gt.

You say a lot of things but it doesn't make it true including when you called me a liar. :roll:
 

dug777

Lifer
Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: angry hampster
Originally posted by: Azn
Grid has biggest impact when you increase shader. I wish ATI cards could overclock shader seperately.

Is this true of all ATI cards and with all overclocking utilities? I am upgrading my 8800GT to an HD4870 this week, and have no experience overclocking ATI cards. Will I still be able to use Rivatuner?

You will, but I don't think (?) you can increase shader speeds individually.

Overdrive in CCC is incredibly easy to use, so I stick with that. I suppose if you were running Vista 64 on a cpu from about four years ago and some daftly limited amount of RAM it could be slow for you, but it's no slower than any other app of that type for me with the Quad and 4GB.
 

dug777

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Please stay on topic, folks :)

I've managed to confuse everyone, but hopefully I've clarified things now :)
 

Modular

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Nice OC on the core. Is that at the stock voltages? I've got an MSI 4850 that's not stable at anything above 690 core; it makes my computer restart when playing games. This is with an Accelero S1 + 120mm fan on there too. All VRM's and memory chips have sinks on them and are cooled by the 120mm. I'd love to be able to get higher clocks out of mine like what you have!
 

dug777

Lifer
Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: Modular
Nice OC on the core. Is that at the stock voltages? I've got an MSI 4850 that's not stable at anything above 690 core; it makes my computer restart when playing games. This is with an Accelero S1 + 120mm fan on there too. All VRM's and memory chips have sinks on them and are cooled by the 120mm. I'd love to be able to get higher clocks out of mine like what you have!

Stock voltages, it's just a freak.

It's the Asus with the Glaciator HSF, and it has no RAM cooling, and had no VRM cooling. It now has little dinky heatsinks on the VRMs and an 80mm Spire fan strapped to it, whic seemed to improve my stability no end.

Can't put any RAM cooling on it with this HSF unfortunately. In my experience it's usually very disappointing and doesn't help much (for integrated heatsinks like the stock HSF for the 4850 i suspect the heat from the GPU means your RAM is probably hotter than if it was uncooled...).