4770k OC and intel processor replacement

[Face2Face]

As they should, its fraud. You are returning something under the guise that it is defective when in fact you just didnt win the luck of the draw and now you are mad about it.

Think of overclocking as a bonus, not a right. You are promised only the specified xxxxmhz stated in documentation/on box, anything in excess is just gravy. If it doesnt meet that stock value then by all means complain all you want, but this is just the entitlement mentality of our community shining bright.

Your right, it's fraud. And if convicted, you could be fined up to $5,000 or spend six months in a correction
FAHSILLILLITY!

In all seriousness I am not suggesting OP to exchange his chip for another. I am just telling him to prepare for the onslaught..

 

[oceanside]

Have any reasonably accurate statistics on OC yields been done yet? Seems like early adopters have been taking it on the chin... or at least that's how it seems, anyway.

 

[khg5293]

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[Magic Carpet]

khg5293,

Thanks for reporting back :thumbsup:

 

[Gikaseixas]

Thanks for sharing that. I think that i'll pass 4770K, can't wait for a 4960k monster

 

[UaVaj]

looks like that first chip was out of spec. glad to hear intel take care of their customers.

thanks for reporting back.

 

[nyker96]

sorry to hear about your troubles on a brand new cpu, I had some issues when I first set up my 2500k, I loaded the system with 16GB of 1.5v DDR1600 ripsaw ram, and i keep getting instabilities, I ran memtest86+ sure enough it's the ram, I tested them one stick at a time, passes all tests no problem at the advertised speed, so I dug deeper and found that the motherboard defaults to 1.6v on DDR3 rams, as I believe 2500k can only take like 1.55v on the CPU memory controller. After I set it manually to 1.5v, all is well.

so check your RAM voltage, make sure it's not too high, and memtest86+ your ram just so you don't run into ram trouble like I did. gl.

 

[djdelirius]

Hey Im not sure if you are still curious but I will leave a post anyways. I knew my processor had a problem so i didnt send it to Newegg but instead I sent it to intel directly. They diagnosed the processor I had returned and sent me back a manually tested 4770k. I stablized the new 4770k Ive got @4.5GHz 1.27v + 2600mhz 11cl.

I was very surprised and disappointed to see all these negatively judgemental people on this forum thinking that I was just complaining and whinning but oh well, intel saw it through and took care of the problem!

So,, for those of you that are in a similar kind of situation as i was, if you are confident that your processor is defective, deal directly with Intel not the store. It makes everything very simple.

khg, I'm in the same boat you were in. I can't get a stable 4.3 with less than 1.3v and dropping my ram to 1333. Did you call intel or just fill out a RMA online? Did they ask why the product was being returned or give you a hard time?

 

[SammichPG]

I'm starting to feel much better about my recent 3770K purchase.

I'm starting to think that buying K parts haswell is not worth it, you miss on any performance gains but:

- you won't waste time overclocking+tuning+mounting heatsinks
- you save at least 120-150$ towards a better gpu/ssd just by buying a cheap motherboard (no need for that z87 and 16 phase vrm), a cheap 400w bronze/silver psu, value ram and a low end aftermarket cooler if you want silent operation
- you can resell your stuff down the line without the loss of value that comes from used overclocked parts


Overclocking used to be about extracting more value from your hardware, but the tech industry has turned it into another way of milking the consumer...

 

[ShintaiDK]

I'm starting to think that buying K parts haswell is not worth it, you miss on any performance gains but:

- you won't waste time overclocking+tuning+mounting heatsinks
- you save at least 120-150$ towards a better gpu/ssd just by buying a cheap motherboard (no need for that z87 and 16 phase vrm), a cheap 400w bronze/silver psu, value ram and a low end aftermarket cooler if you want silent operation
- you can resell your stuff down the line without the loss of value that comes from used overclocked parts


Overclocking used to be about extracting more value from your hardware, but the tech industry has turned it into another way of milking the consumer...

You never needed that expensive mobo to OC with in the first place. It was nothing but bling bling.

 

[Vesku]

Indeed, haven't heard of even the cheapest Z77 board not letting people OC to at least 4.2GHz as long as the cooling solution was adequate. Heck, Intel even politely told people not to get so hung up on number of phases style marketing.

 

[SammichPG]

You never needed that expensive mobo to OC with in the first place. It was nothing but bling bling.

Yes but just the "k tax" plus the cheapest z87 are just around 80$ over the non k cpu and h67 alternative

Are 400mhz worth all that trouble and money? (ok 4200 is on every core vs 3800 on a single one)

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yes but just the "k tax" plus the cheapest z87 are just around 80$ over the non k cpu and h67 alternative

Are 400mhz worth all that trouble and money? (ok 4200 is on every core vs 3800 on a single one)

I assume you mean H87. On newegg those differences are 55$. 35$ on the board and 20$ on the CPU.

The Z87 chipset cost 4$ more than the H87. So essentially it shouldnt be hard to make mobos around the same price, if one decided to.

 

[Vesku]

Whether accidental or "wink wink nudge nudge" marketing some H87 and B85 motherboards are allowing overclocking of K series Haswell:

http://www.asrock.com/news/?cat=News&id=1461

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Hey Im not sure if you are still curious but I will leave a post anyways. I knew my processor had a problem so i didnt send it to Newegg but instead I sent it to intel directly. They diagnosed the processor I had returned and sent me back a manually tested 4770k. I stablized the new 4770k Ive got @4.5GHz 1.27v + 2600mhz 11cl.

I was very surprised and disappointed to see all these negatively judgemental people on this forum thinking that I was just complaining and whinning but oh well, intel saw it through and took care of the problem!

So,, for those of you that are in a similar kind of situation as i was, if you are confident that your processor is defective, deal directly with Intel not the store. It makes everything very simple.

Intel was just going the extra mile to make a happy customer, which I think is great. I do not however agree with returning it under less than honest means.

 

[billbobaggins87]

In the end. Intel Sold you a chip that was not advertised or recommended to run at the settings you wanted. I'm honestly shocked they accepted the return. However, wouldn't expect this to be a common response out of them regarding this type of complaint. Don't get me wrong its really nice they literally took care of you by accepting a fully functional chip in as a return because the person who bought it wanted farm more than what was promised.
Your lucky day

 

[BallaTheFeared]

\I was under the impression that the chip did not function properly at stock, however the last two pages have said otherwise...

Which is it?

 

[billbobaggins87]

the chip functions fine at stock.. its not going up to 4.5

all in Op

 

[jcniest5]

khg, I'm in the same boat you were in. I can't get a stable 4.3 with less than 1.3v and dropping my ram to 1333. Did you call intel or just fill out a RMA online? Did they ask why the product was being returned or give you a hard time?

FYI: Intel won't guarantee against overclocking. If it's stable at stock speed (Linus, Windows, etc...), Intel won't replace it.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

the chip functions fine at stock.. its not going up to 4.5

all in Op

Ahh I see the problem, some people just read one post others read the thread.

I will take screens shots of the results i get running Linx

I will use : 2x4gb corsair dominator platinum 1866(overclockable to2666mhz)
2x2gb gskill ripjaw 1600
2x4gb gskill sniper series 1600


@stock it always says Error: not enough memory
@any OC setting that is stablized though other real life programs Error: not enough memory

cpu loads for about 10seconds and turns back down to idle.
@any overclocked freq. Error, or force close.

**Oh and I noticed u said You ran linx avx 0.6.4. My haswell chip does not run Linx no matter what. @stcok or any frequency setting + any voltage amount. I get an error message everytime. whatever I do, change memory amount settings (1~1024~4096~8192~All), change ram sticks, it stops with all the errors i can possibly get( not enough memory, stopped working and force close) Yes @ stock, default setting too so its not about system stability. I thought it was because linx doesnt support haswell yet. Maybe something IS wrong my processor?

Of course.. I tried different memory settings. I've used Linx/intelburn programs for so many years on many different cpus/platforms. I woudln't be saying "it does not work" without checking for obvious and common errors. I will try to be clear about it :\


@Stock both memory and cpu

1) It gives me error No matter what. ANY amount of memory. starting with 1024MB > 2gbish > 4gb> 6gb > 8gb > 16gb > All or even a random number.

2) Tried switching Memory Dimmslots. 1/3 dual channel 2/4 dual channel All 4 slots filled fullbank config. does not make a difference.

3) tried 4 different memory kits. They all work perfectly on other DDR3 platforms I have. (agena phenom// lynnfield nehalem/ etc)

4) memories were not overclocked(although they are highly overclockable) Also did it with overclock// without overclock// and XMP settings.

5) Windwos 7 virtual memory. Tried setting it more/less/none/default No difference.

5) Cpu temperature. It doesn't load so it doesn't even go up that high. Errors I get differs depending on given memory setting to Linx but usually say..I set 4096Mb and try running 10~20times on Linx AVX 0.6.4 It loads for about 5 seconds and turns back down to idle and soon after I get all kinds of errors. Btw, cpu is @stock.

6) Tried windows 7 format. tried setting bios to default. tried taking battery out of Motherboard to completely set it back. still doesn't run the stress test.

7) Tried Hyper threading turned off and on// cpu power savings all off/ windwos7 power options turned High performance.

8) Did not run anything else. Ran Linx after a 5~10min boot/ 1hr after boot/ 5hr after boot No matter how stable my OS was it woud not run.

9) tried giving a fixed voltage tried range of 1.1v~1.3v for @stock clock setting. and again nope.. setting fixed votage of 1.0v @stock clock gives me '124' BSOD ......lol......probably not enough juice.




Conclusion: I tried running Linx "literally" about a thousand times under all of the conditions I mentioned above. Did not see a single Gflops result.

 

[Pheesh]

I thought he demonstrated that it was running into some issues at stock speed...so that's likely why he was able to get an exchange.

 

[khg5293]

they accepted my RMA and offered a new "working" chip

 

[UaVaj]

don't let those comments get the best of you. you need thick skin to participate on a public forum.

there are the folks who "only" read what they want to read only to conject their version of the story then jump straight to conclusion.

if those folks took the time to read and actually understand the whole thread. they would understand that your chip was out of spec at stock - hence the need for RMA.

bella summarized it well on post #95.

no need to get all bent up about it.

 

[khg5293]

I was able to get a replacement chip after running the intel diagnostic test.

 

[khg5293]

don't let those comments get the best of you. you need thick skin to participate on a public forum.

there are the folks who "only" read what they want to read only to conject their version of the story then jump straight to conclusion.

if those folks took the time to read and actually understand the whole thread. they would understand that your chip was out of spec at stock - hence the need for RMA.

bella summarized it well on post #95.

no need to get all bent up about it.

Thank you