Christ. If you're going to link to a source as some sort of proof of your argument, at least take the time to understand it.
meltdown75
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Keep bumping this thread so all the misinformation can be dispelled. I understand that only a sledge hammer can stop it, but it must be stopped.
1080 displays are NOT about content (even so, most content is 1080 anyway). I'm not keen on throwing away resolution, nor should one justify such a position. I swear, it's like trying to convince somebody who justifies BOSE. They just won't listen and will keep telling everybody that bose is the best.
Even when you show them and show proof they'll still expound on how bose is the best. Go figure.
1080 displays are NOT about content (even so, most content is 1080 anyway). I'm not keen on throwing away resolution, nor should one justify such a position. I swear, it's like trying to convince somebody who justifies BOSE. They just won't listen and will keep telling everybody that bose is the best.
Even when you show them and show proof they'll still expound on how bose is the best. Go figure.
If you enjoy scaling artifacts from most HD sources and SD sources - then knock your socks off.
I don't.
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
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I think you said it well in the other thread
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=67&threadid=2104825
Yes, 1080p is better than 720p.
That said, it's not the most important attribute to what makes a good TV.
If all other parts that make up a good TV are on par with one another and you can get a 1080p version in your budget, then of course go ahead with it.
That said, one of the best TVs out there right not in terms of image quality is a 1366x768 plasma.
1080p is not the only thing you should be looking for in a TV. If you find a TV that has everything you want except for the 1080p resolution, then don't count it out.
If you're going to make a choice between a good 720p set and a budget 1080p set (which is the reality for a lot of people), then you may be better off with the 720p set.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=67&threadid=2104825
Yes, 1080p is better than 720p.
That said, it's not the most important attribute to what makes a good TV.
If all other parts that make up a good TV are on par with one another and you can get a 1080p version in your budget, then of course go ahead with it.
That said, one of the best TVs out there right not in terms of image quality is a 1366x768 plasma.
1080p is not the only thing you should be looking for in a TV. If you find a TV that has everything you want except for the 1080p resolution, then don't count it out.
If you're going to make a choice between a good 720p set and a budget 1080p set (which is the reality for a lot of people), then you may be better off with the 720p set.
No, the problem is you didn't take the time to understand it. Of course a 1080p set can theoretically display a 1080i signal better than a 720p can, but the problem is translating theory to reality. A good quality 720p set at 37"-42" can, and often does, look better than a cheap 1080p set with the same 1080i source. This isn't just my opinion, this is a fact.
But, if it makes you feel better to buy a 19" 1080p set, more power to you there buddy.
What theory? More justification from people that don't understand. This is NOT theory. this is nothing more than FACT!
Get that through your head people. FACT.
FACT. 1080p displays can best display all of your sources and in FACT shine the most on HD content.
Of course a high quality 720p display can look better than a cheap 1080p display. I can't help it if your cheap ass can't afford a large high quality display. But don't keep spreading the lies that it doesn't matter.
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sorry for being so harsh, but this FUD needs to be stopped. If I have to go over to another friends house so they can show off their 42" TV mounted above their mantle with every single speaker up against the wall and sit 10 feet away and expect to tell them how nice it is I'm going to throw up. It's hard enough not throwing up when they ask what I think. You have to literally mentally force yourself to act and show emotions that just aren't true.
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The arguement isn't that we don't believe it's better. It's that we don't care enough to justify the difference.
It's kind of like being presented two otherwise identical cars, one of which is 350HP and the other is 400HP that costs an additional 15%.
For a lot of us, 350HP is a huge step up from the 130HP Civics we came from and is more than enough. Yes, 400HP is more, but not enough of a difference to most of us to justify the added cost.
This isn't really true. I have a 30" CRT HDTV that does 1080i and I can see an obvious difference between 720p and 1080i. The difference is quite drastic. 1080i looks very crisp while 720p looks halfway in between 1080i and standard definition.
I love my 720p 37" Vizio...
My buddy has a 42' 720p, and personally, I can't tell the difference in image quality.
My buddy has a 42' 720p, and personally, I can't tell the difference in image quality.
This is absolutely moronic. The difference is so obvious that I wonder what people are looking at when they say that they can't see the difference.
I'm not going to argue this with you anymore, because you're clearly just going to sit there and pout about being so much smarter than everyone else in the world.
To the OP, I hope the rest of this thread other than Spidey's rants actually helpd answer your question.
Never heard of dual scan CRTs I see.
How can you offer advice on displays if you don't understand this stuff?
The TV's scaler upscales all inputs to its native resolution.
I've watched plenty of HDTVs, and I'm easily able to pick out whether they're running 720p or 1080i/p. I cannot tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, but the difference between 720p and 1080i/p is obvious to me.
The 720p sets do not get close to the clarity and resolution of my TV, but the newer 1080p sets look like what I'm used to seeing.
Mine is a Sony with the ultra fine pitch display. From what I hear, the tube in mine is the same as the XBR, but mine doesn't have as many inputs on the back.
When I was doing my research before buying the TV, I looked on a bunch of sites to see how they rated the picture quality of the various TVs available. They said that most TVs don't display the full 1080 lines, and only a few sets out there actually got close. The best picture ratings always seemed to go to the Sony XBR and the slightly lower end sets that used the XBR's tube. That's what I ended up getting.
I've stopped by Best Buy and Circuit City a few times lately while Christmas shopping to look at the TVs. The 720p LCD and Plasma TVs are most certainly of a lower picture quality than my set. It's not really close. The higher end 1080p LCDs look just as good as my TV but are much more expensive.
It's funny because my girlfriend isn't an AVphile like I am, and she was able to notice it. We went to her friends' house for dinner a while back and they just got a new Sharp LCD TV. We were all watching Planet Earth and they were impressed by how clear it was. My girlfriend whispered to me that my TV looked a lot clearer than theirs. It's pretty obvious.
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