40D enters, stage left

[ElFenix]

amazon spills the beans

10.1 mp, dust buster, live view, 3" LCD, digic 3, 6.5 fps (75 jpeg or 17 raw), ISO 3200 sensitivity, same metering, faster AF (now with all cross-type sensors), sraw, better weather sealing.

all for $1300 w/o lens.


so, anyone want my xti?

dpreview

 

[randomlinh]

sure, if you give it to me for free

I really hope this pushes the 30D prices down (in the used market). Altho, I really could have fun w/ 6.5FPS... dust buster I can live w/o.

 

[Kelvrick]

6.5fps... Awesome...

 

[Deadtrees]

Not only that, it also features 9 cross AF sensors and AF-able live view.

The most interesting part of all is that it also comes with a picture style creation software.
Not only you can customize already built-in various picture styles, now you can also create your own picture style.

Now, one of top two reasons why I switched to Canon was because of this picture style(The other one reason being FF sensor.)
(Other camera brands offered some minimal change-the-way-pictures-look functions but none were advanced like that of Canon.)

I'm glad Canon took the idea futher and came up with this.

 

[AmpedSilence]

:rools::

right in time for when i was going to purchase a new camera, well almost; Next year's tax return is going towards this camera. And i know it will be out by then!

 

[Jawo]

Looks like Canon finally incorporated lots of user feedback!
DPReview coverage: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos40d/

It will have Live Preview and an AF-On button! Now if I only could get it for free.....

 

[Aharami]

Dont know anything about the 30D, but from the chart posted on dpreview, it looks like a significant improvement over the 30D. Kudos Canon

 

[ElFenix]

how long before we see two lens IS xti kits to compete with D40s and E500s?

and i hope that isn't canon's solution to the 18-200 VR.


and yea for interchangeable screens, but boo to no split prism.

 

[Jawo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
how long before we see two lens IS xti kits to compete with D40s and E500s?

and i hope that isn't canon's solution to the 18-200 VR.

and yea for interchangeable screens, but boo to no split prism.

Well Canon announced that they are releasing the 18-55 IS and a 55-250 IS (DP Review). Hopefully it will be better than the old 18-55 that was generally considered a POS.

From the Press Release:

Canon today strengthens its EF-S series of lenses with the launch of the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS and EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS. With equivalent focal lengths of 29-88mm and 88-400mm respectively, the lenses are the first in the EF-S series to incorporate a 4-stop Image Stabilizer, dramatically extending low-light performance. Both lenses incorporate specialist optics to achieve exceptional image clarity - the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS employing an aspherical lens element with the EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS benefiting from an Ultra-Low Dispersion (UD) lens element.

 

[tfinch2]

I don't really get excited about camera bodies anymore. Where are the zooms faster than f/2.8?

 

[foghorn67]

I could always used improved AF, that's why I'm still with Canon.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I don't really get excited about camera bodies anymore. Where are the zooms faster than f/2.8?

There are a couple wide/standard zooms at 2.4 aren't there?

What was wrong with the old kit 18-55? For 70 bucks, I think its a great lens.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I don't really get excited about camera bodies anymore. Where are the zooms faster than f/2.8?

There are a couple wide/standard zooms at 2.4 aren't there?

What was wrong with the old kit 18-55? For 70 bucks, I think its a great lens.

people are quick to bash it. It can produce decent results if you know it's limits. But we always welcome an improvement for nothing

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I don't really get excited about camera bodies anymore. Where are the zooms faster than f/2.8?

There are a couple wide/standard zooms at 2.4 aren't there?

What was wrong with the old kit 18-55? For 70 bucks, I think its a great lens.

Nothing wrong with it, but kit lens level aperture really limit DOF creativity.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
how long before we see two lens IS xti kits to compete with D40s and E500s?

and i hope that isn't canon's solution to the 18-200 VR.


and yea for interchangeable screens, but boo to no split prism.

Canon doesn't have interests in making crop factor based lenses.
While Nikon has been busy making all those APS-C lenses, how many has Canon made?
Only 2 I recall plus this new one.

As told by the president of Nikon, Nikon really thought APS-C is the way of future thus put its all efforts making
lenses for those whereas Canon saw APS-C as a temporary deal.

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: ElFenix
how long before we see two lens IS xti kits to compete with D40s and E500s?

and i hope that isn't canon's solution to the 18-200 VR.


and yea for interchangeable screens, but boo to no split prism.

Canon doesn't have interests in making crop factor based lenses.
While Nikon has been busy making all those APS-C lenses, how many has Canon made?
Only 2 I recall plus this new one.

As told by the president of Nikon, Nikon really thought APS-C is the way of future thus put its all efforts making
lenses for those whereas Canon saw APS-C as a temporary deal.

10-22, 17-55IS, 17-85IS, 55-200IS, 18-55, 18-55IS, 60 Macro.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: ElFenix
how long before we see two lens IS xti kits to compete with D40s and E500s?

and i hope that isn't canon's solution to the 18-200 VR.


and yea for interchangeable screens, but boo to no split prism.

Canon doesn't have interests in making crop factor based lenses.
While Nikon has been busy making all those APS-C lenses, how many has Canon made?
Only 2 I recall plus this new one.

As told by the president of Nikon, Nikon really thought APS-C is the way of future thus put its all efforts making
lenses for those whereas Canon saw APS-C as a temporary deal.

10-22, 17-55IS, 17-85IS, 55-200IS, 18-55, 18-55IS, 60 Macro.

Oops, that's 2 more than I thought.
(18-55, 18-55 USM, 18-55 II, 18-55 aren't separate lenses. They're basically the same lenses with a bit of improvements)

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Oops, that's 2 more than I thought.
(18-55, 18-55 USM, 18-55 II, 18-55 aren't separate lenses. They're basically the same lenses with a bit of improvements)

what are you talking about, he listed two 18-55's, one with IS, one without. that's it.

 

[ultimatebob]

I'm just glad that live view LCD's are finally starting the become standard on mid to high range Digital SLR's! Gee... That only took about five years longer than it should have!

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Oops, that's 2 more than I thought.
(18-55, 18-55 USM, 18-55 II, 18-55 aren't separate lenses. They're basically the same lenses with a bit of improvements)

what are you talking about, he listed two 18-55's, one with IS, one without. that's it.

What I taked about is that there're more than a few series of 18-55 lens offerings, even more than what he said. In fact, there's one more which is the modified version of 18-55 so that it'd fit into EF mount.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Hi y'all!

Posting from Naxos, Greece today.

I am liking the new specs of the 40D. If reviews from both users (beta testers) and pro sites are positive, I think it will replace my 20D sometime in the next 6-8 months or so.

I am only concerned about the reliability of the all new AF system as well as pixel density/high ISO noise.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I'm just glad that live view LCD's are finally starting the become standard on mid to high range Digital SLR's! Gee... That only took about five years longer than it should have!

Just out of interest, why do you want live view so dreadfully?

That's one of the things i love about a SLR, being able to shoot without peering at a bloody LCD screen I also can't see how you'd ensure it had focussed on exactly what you wanted...

I could be missing something (and probably am ), but it at least appears that all it'll do is turn you into yet another drooling idiot squinting into a minature LCD screen rather than actually looking at what you're photographing, with your own eyes, through the viewfinder, at infinitely higher 'resolution' than any small LCD is capable of, with real life colours...

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Hi y'all!

Posting from Naxos, Greece today.

I am liking the new specs of the 40D. If reviews from both users (beta testers) and pro sites are positive, I think it will replace my 20D sometime in the next 6-8 months or so.

I am only concerned about the reliability of the all new AF system as well as pixel density/high ISO noise.

If so, why don't you go for 5D. Even better would be the next generation of 5D that's belived to be out by the mid next year.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Hi y'all!

Posting from Naxos, Greece today.

I am liking the new specs of the 40D. If reviews from both users (beta testers) and pro sites are positive, I think it will replace my 20D sometime in the next 6-8 months or so.

I am only concerned about the reliability of the all new AF system as well as pixel density/high ISO noise.

If so, why don't you go for 5D. Even better would be the next generation of 5D that's belived to be out by the mid next year.

cause it'll probably cost more than he wants to spend

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I'm just glad that live view LCD's are finally starting the become standard on mid to high range Digital SLR's! Gee... That only took about five years longer than it should have!

Just out of interest, why do you want live view so dreadfully?

That's one of the things i love about a SLR, being able to shoot without peering at a bloody LCD screen I also can't see how you'd ensure it had focussed on exactly what you wanted...

I could be missing something (and probably am ), but it at least appears that all it'll do is turn you into yet another drooling idiot squinting into a minature LCD screen rather than actually looking at what you're photographing, with your own eyes, through the viewfinder, at infinitely higher 'resolution' than any small LCD is capable of, with real life colours...

The live view is just an additional place where you can preview your shot. Live view is only on the rear LCD, so you've still got the excellent optical viewfinder, but if you're at a weird angle where it's hard to shoot through the viewfinder, you can get your preview from the rear LCD.

I've had this happen in a number of instances, such as when I need some extra height and have to raise my camera above my head. Obviously I can't look through the viewfinder and I'm forced to guess at what the camera's pointing at. With live view I can look up at the LCD and compose my shot. The same goes for shooting from the hip where you don't want to make it obvious that you're shooting something by bringing the camera up to your face. Of if you're shooting something at a really low angle and don't want to lay on the ground in mud or whatnot.

Of course IMO live view should not be used for 100% of shooting, only for those instances where it's necessary and you're willing to take a hit on color accuracy, resolution, and pinpoint focusing.