$403- LG G2 for T-mobile. Hell of a deal.

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Dari

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Actully, he's right. My wife has a Moto G for a personal phone and a Note 3 for a company phone. The blue tint on the AMOLED Note 3 is nasty and noticeable. I don't see any tinting on the Moto G. Considering how bad the S4 and previous Samsung AMOLED phones were when it came to tinting, the fact that the Note 3 (Samsung's flagship phone) is bad speaks volume about how terrible the others are.
 

openwheel

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G2 has the overly blue tint. I am currently using a Note 3 which has a very well calibrated amoled screen. Unlike the S3 and older amoled, this one is fantastic. However, the best screen I have come across is still 2013 Nexus 7. iPhone 5S is well calibrated too.
 

mnewsham

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So you're saying this Note3 has less blue than this G2?

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size is not everything, and the G2's display, despite being smaller by half an inch, is also a pleasure to admire. In fact, we find the screen on LG's flagship slightly more detailed – something that doesn't surprise us given its higher pixel density (423ppi vs 386ppi for the Note 3) and the fact that a standard RGB sub-pixel arrangement is in use, as opposed to the Note 3's Diamond sub-pixel panel.

However, as awesome as they may look, both displays have their flaws, and one of them is their not-so-ideal color representation. The typical for AMOLED panels pumped up colors are present on the Note 3 as well, while the LG G2 has its color temperature leaning towards the colder side. Nevertheless, these imperfections are so slight that they are likely to go unnoticed by most users and we don't think they spoil the overall user experience at all. Outdoor usability isn't an issue either. Both screens can be operated comfortably even on a sunny day thanks to their high brightness output and low reflectance.


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In terms of display quality, Samsung Galaxy Note 3 has better brightness, contrast and a bigger display and that is where its advantages end. In terms of viewing angles and white levels, the display on LG G2 is much better because of its True Full HD IPS+ display. The colors appear largely over-saturated on Galaxy Note 3 while they look quite natural on G2. Being a smaller display, G2 has sharper images.

Overall, the display on LG G2 is slightly better.
 

mnewsham

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G2 has the overly blue tint. I am currently using a Note 3 which has a very well calibrated amoled screen. Unlike the S3 and older amoled, this one is fantastic. However, the best screen I have come across is still 2013 Nexus 7. iPhone 5S is well calibrated too.

Note 3 was bashed pretty hard for NOT being very well calibrated and have fairly noticeable supersaturation problems, like most AMOLED displays, so not sure what you really mean.

the problem is both displays tend to be so good that you probably can't by eye pick the best, you might pick what you THINK is the best, but in reality it would probably just be the over-saturation catching your eye over the cooler colours on the G2 which will seem very subdued when compared directly to the AMOLED, but in reality more colour accurate.
 

dawheat

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Note 3 was bashed pretty hard for NOT being very well calibrated and have fairly noticeable supersaturation problems, like most AMOLED displays, so not sure what you really mean.

the problem is both displays tend to be so good that you probably can't by eye pick the best, you might pick what you THINK is the best, but in reality it would probably just be the over-saturation catching your eye over the cooler colours on the G2 which will seem very subdued when compared directly to the AMOLED, but in reality more colour accurate.

The Note 3 in Movie mode with Adapt Display disabled seems decently controlled to me - even compared to my wife's IP5 and my backup Nexus 4. Even bright sunlight performance is quite good - unlike my previous AMOLED screens, I don't have any issues.

Most decent sites like Anandtech I believe did the review with the above settings. For sure in the default Standard setting with Adapt Display enabled, the display is quite oversaturated. Surprisingly, my sisters like it more saturated than I do.
 
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dawheat

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So you're saying this Note3 has less blue than this G2?

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For my own benefit - what exactly does the pixel arrangement have to do with color calibration? It doesn't surprise me that to show this on AMOLED screens you need to have all the RGB pixels lit up while you can show a white screen with IPS displays.
 

mnewsham

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Most decent sites like Anandtech I believe did the review with the above settings. For sure in the default Standard setting with Adapt Display enabled, the display is quite oversaturated. Surprisingly, my sisters like it more saturated than I do.

If I change with the display settings i can make the G2 look better too, we are talking out of the box and how the average person would use it. 1/2 the people I know who have smartphones don't even change the brightness levels let alone care about contrast and colour accuracy.

The AMOLED display by default absolute shit for colour accuracy because of the over saturation, the G2 is slightly cooler, but wayyyyy more colour accurate.
 

openwheel

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G2 is bashed hard on XDA for the bluish tint but I dont see anyone complaining about Note 3 screen.

We just have to agree to disagree here. I judge based on my experience and my own eyes. The G2 I bought for wife had overly bluish tint and was very prominent on white background. It is possible LG used different panels with variations.

The Note 3 I current have has true black and the white is actually white which is very rare by amoled standards. All amoled display have almost cartoon like color reproduction and Note 3 is no exception. However overall it is very pleasing to look at and I would take the saturated colors over washed out colors any day. Also dont forget how amoled ages. The blue goes 1st.
 

dawheat

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If I change with the display settings i can make the G2 look better too, we are talking out of the box and how the average person would use it. 1/2 the people I know who have smartphones don't even change the brightness levels let alone care about contrast and colour accuracy.

The AMOLED display by default absolute shit for colour accuracy because of the over saturation, the G2 is slightly cooler, but wayyyyy more colour accurate.

What built-in modes does the G2 come with? I'm not familiar with them as most non-Samsung phones don't come with these options.

I don't disagree that it's not 'default', but calling a built-in option that's as easy to change as changing the font size in settings (and simpler than choosing a new wallpaper or ringtone) for your preference is hardly onerous.

<edit> Not even sure why we're debating this. I don't think any normal person will be disappointed with the G2 screen - how it compares to the Note 3 really isn't relevant as it competes with the S4/HTC One/Nexus 5. I really liked the G2 (especially once you were able to disable some of the crap in the notification screen), but couldn't give up the extra real estate and S-pen of the Note 3. For sure it's a better phone than the S4, though it'll likely be eclipsed by the S5 in a couple months (and then the G3 will jump again in the fall).
 
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mnewsham

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G2 is bashed hard on XDA for the bluish tint but I dont see anyone complaining about Note 3 screen.

Where is it being bashed hard on XDA I spend a lot of time on the G2 sub forum, I haven't seen anything, aleast not besides a few isolated incidents early on...
 

openwheel

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You are preaching to the choir here. I hate the typical Samsung bluish tint from the S3 days. Not on this Note 3. Better yet I have yet to see a tablet with a more pleasing screen than the IPS display in my 2013 Nexus 7.

Maybe I can tolerate AMOLED more due to my love for my Panasonic VT60 plasma. Who doesnt like the deep black and vibrancy of colors that pop.
 

mnewsham

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You are preaching to the choir here. I hate the typical Samsung bluish tint from the S3 days. Not on this Note 3. Better yet I have yet to see a tablet with a more pleasing screen than the IPS display in my 2013 Nexus 7.

Maybe I can tolerate AMOLED more due to my love for my Panasonic VT60 plasma. Who doesnt like the deep black and vibrancy of colors that pop.

It's still AMOLED, over time the colours are only going to get worse and eventually possibly burn in. Takes longer with modern AMOLED displays, but it still happens.


I personally with stick with IPS
 

Rdmkr

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There is no clearly noticeable blue tint on my G2's screen; I'd sooner say it's biased towards yellow/red, though nothing even close to problematic.

My viewing angles are not that good. In this regard I seem to have an unusual specific device in my hands. I haven't heard anyone, ever, complaining about LG G2 viewing angles. My black depth and contrast ratio also don't look as good as the 1500:1 that is usually mentioned in technical reviews.

Reviewer Erica "the technology nerd" tested the colors of a G2 and found them to be calibrated for strong oversaturation. Which is worse than when AMOLED screens have it, because those at least expand the color range.

On the plus side, at least the G2 has 3 subpixels per pixel. It's not watered down 1080p in terms of subpixel resolution.

A thing to keep in mind is that screen quality can vary considerably between specific devices of the same model. I've seen several sources confirm this including my own experience.

From an earlier post:

However, as awesome as they may look, both displays have their flaws, and one of them is their not-so-ideal color representation. The typical for AMOLED panels pumped up colors are present on the Note 3 as well, while the LG G2 has its color temperature leaning towards the colder side.

In case people missed this, a colder temperature means a red/yellow tint, not blue. So this is in line with my experience and I don't know why some posters here mentioned a blue tint.
 
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Apex

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In case people missed this, a colder temperature means a red/yellow tint, not blue. So this is in line with my experience and I don't know why some posters here mentioned a blue tint.

I think there may be some confusion here regarding color temperature.

When people refer to color, colder generally means it leans more towards blue. They're generally not referring to the actual temperature (kelvin).

Both are technically correct, but convention when referencing colors generally has cold = higher kelvin = more blue.
 

Bman123

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The g2 screen is better then the note 3. I'm using a note 2 and the screen is really blue with a white background
 

kaerflog

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Anyway, I just got myself a G2 and I couldn't give a damm if its bluish or whatever.
Its one hell of a phone.
I've been showing her in store many times what a gorgeous G2 phone is but she ignores it.
Now that I finally got one, she wants mine.
Back to the Nexus 5 I go.
 

openwheel

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boy the G2 is only $450 off contract from Verizon. That's a decent deal too for those on grandfathered unlimited data. That's a big battery for tethering.
 

dawheat

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Just picked up a new AT&T G2 on Swappa to go with the new 10GB value plan.

Hoping to pick up some tips from owners:

- any stable roms on 4.3 or 4.4? Looking over xda, it looks like there are some stable 4.2.2 ROMs and some in-progress 4.4 ROMs. Is lack of trim support in the stock software an issue for anyone?

- any glass screen protector recommendations? It seems that the sloping edges are a problem for all protectors, so you can't fully cover the screen.

- any debloat tips besides disabling most of the pre-installed apps via app manager?

- any setting tips?
 

openwheel

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Be sure to test the GPS on your G2. There are a lot of reported issues with GPS (Verizon G2 at least).