Originally posted by: Kaido
Not bad, but no PSU with the case. Looks like a decent case though and comes with a 120mm fan. If you need more juice than the standard cheapo PSU then it's definitely a good buy. Looks like a nice budget case!
Would this be a good PSU to pair with it, keeping in mind there's never going to be any SLI or crazy gaming going on, and the key attributes are quiet, cool, and power-efficient? My system is likely to only have 1 DVD drive, maybe 2 (max 3) hard drives, and one GPU.
The rosewill case mentioned at the beginning of the thread is $36 (+ $19 or something to ship) + $30 for the DVD burner. That's $85. The combo above is $52, free shipping, with a $35 PSU (after $10 MIR). So that's $87. Just trying to figure out which is the better deal. The killer, obviously is the $19 shipping.
Other than not having front USB ports (really? That's so hard these days!?) am I correct in assuming the Rosewill case with the combo, and adding on that Antec PSU are better components than the $35 one? Again, taking into account we're interested in coolness and quietness.
I was thinking about going with the following
Case: Rosewill R5717-P SL 120mm Fan ATX Mid Tower Computer Case withTool-Free kits - Retail - $52 (Free shipping)
PSU: Antec earthwatts EA430 430W ATX12V v2.0 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail - $35 ($45 - $10 MIR)
Mobo: Whatever it was Kaido swears by.
- $88Proc: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Mode BX80571E7200 - Retail - $120
Ram: SUPER TALENT 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX4GC5 - Retail - $44 ($74 - $30 MIR)
GPU: EVGA 384-P3-N966-TR GeForce 9600 GSO 384MB 192-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - $50 ($100 - $50 MIR)
DVD: LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 - OEM - Included in combo price for case)
HD: Already have WD 640 gig dual-platter drive.
Total = $478 - $90 MIR = $388 + $32 tax = $420 out the door for a system that should be really quiet, run cool, and has pretty decent specs, no? (Strangely, all the above items are free shipping. Can't beat that!) Although I'm not sure how I'm over $400, when I'm saving $80 by not needing a HD and don't have the other stuff like a card reader etc. Is it really just the GPU and case are that much more expensive? Or I guess we weren't figuring in tax....?
My only concern is the GPU might not be very hack compatible. Also, what about non-stock cooling? Would a different fan be quieter? I want this thing to be pretty much silent....
Thoughts?
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I've use a similar Rosewill case (Newegg's in house brand BTW) the Rosewill R604TSB. If you want to make it silent, invest in a decent anti-vibration kit and mount your hard drives, PSU and fans with rubber grommets. Also, make use of packaging foam around components that vibrate. Whatever you do, don't use those ultra-crappy plastic mounts that come with the case.
Replace the stock 120mm case fans with better fans, and mount them using rubberized anti-vibration mounts, not screws. I like to put noise-dampening foam blocks under the motherboard tray, between it and the outer case panel, and of course, the entire case seated on rubber feet. With decent parts and the right mounting techniques, a PC becomes silent at any reasonable distance.
A very decent CPU fan is the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro It's certainly much better than any stock cooler- though most modern stock coolers aren't all that noisy. With all the other precautions, your stock cooler may not contribute all that much noise.
I don't think the 9600 is supported- probably no QE/CI or res-switching, meaning: useless. I think 9800 cards will work.
Replace the stock 120mm case fans with better fans, and mount them using rubberized anti-vibration mounts, not screws. I like to put noise-dampening foam blocks under the motherboard tray, between it and the outer case panel, and of course, the entire case seated on rubber feet. With decent parts and the right mounting techniques, a PC becomes silent at any reasonable distance.
A very decent CPU fan is the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro It's certainly much better than any stock cooler- though most modern stock coolers aren't all that noisy. With all the other precautions, your stock cooler may not contribute all that much noise.
I don't think the 9600 is supported- probably no QE/CI or res-switching, meaning: useless. I think 9800 cards will work.
Originally posted by: Kaido
Running Boot-132, pretty nifty. You install OS X via a Retail Leopard disc...pretty neat
My EFI-X should show up later this week, apparently it was delayed due to heavy shipments.
Okay, now I'm confused.
I googled that. What's it replace? And what the heck is chameleon? WE NEED THE SEPTEMBER/10.5.5 UPDATE!
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There are several ways to install Leopard on a PC, three of which are:
1. Patch-based Disc (Kalyway, JaS, etc.)
2. Boot-132 (DVD or USB)
3. EFI-X (USB)
The patched discs are very easy, but sometimes breaks with updates. Boot-132 has a bootloader that holds the hacked drivers, which load before Leopard does, so when you run updates it doesn't overwrite them. However, you have to keep the DVD boot disc in the drive or, more recently, keep a USB thumbdrive plugged in 24/7. EFI-X is a commercial solution like Boot-132, but with better results. But it costs $160. So it all depends on how headache-free you want your Hackintosh experience to be.
If you can afford it, I'd highly recommend buying an EFI-X plus an EP45-DS3R motherboard. 100% compatibility plus lots of features. If you don't want to go that route, then the DS3L is an awesome board. I have several myself and love em!
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Yup in the US. Mine actually shipped out today from Taiwan, so hopefully it will be here by the end of the week. I also ordered an EP45-DS3R board to go with it (supported 100% under EFI-X).
Regarding Boot-132 yeah, once the details get nailed down. It's not exactly where I want it yet, but it's workable. Mostly likely, after I update the guides to 10.5.5, I'll ditch out and go the EFI-X route. No more headaches, haha.
So I am needing to build a new system soon anyway (Tyranicus can attest to how much I have talked about this though ) and would love to have a second mac that I can leave hooked up to LAN all the time for storage, as well as media acquisition, simply because I prefer all the software that I use for that sort of thing on OS X over Windows.
Anyway, I have an existing desktop that I will cannabalize for parts to put into any new system, not much is reusable but here it is.
BFG 7800GTX
160GB SATA
250GB SATA
500GB SATA
500GB SATA (if I can ever find it)
Case
OCZ PSU
Apple Aluminum Wired Keyboard
Logitech VZ Revolution
And that is basically it. My buddy has 2GB DDR2 RAM laying around that he is going to let me have since he cannot use it, so that covers that cost. Mostly I am needing Mobo and CPU. I like the look of the e5200 since it is $30-40 cheaper than the e7200, and should be significantly faster than my current CPU (AMD64 1.8GHz Single Core) and I will probably get that Gigabyte board since everyone seems to love it, especially as a hackintosh.
My biggest consideration is the video card. I have seen that some 7800GTXs are compatible, but not all... and buying a new video card is not really an option since mine still has a few games left in it. That and I do not have a very big budget for this. Right around $200 at most, which with an $80 CPU and an $90 Mobo, that leaves $30... not much a vidcard there...
) and would love to have a second mac that I can leave hooked up to LAN all the time for storage, as well as media acquisition, simply because I prefer all the software that I use for that sort of thing on OS X over Windows.Anyway, I have an existing desktop that I will cannabalize for parts to put into any new system, not much is reusable but here it is.
BFG 7800GTX
160GB SATA
250GB SATA
500GB SATA
500GB SATA (if I can ever find it)
Case
OCZ PSU
Apple Aluminum Wired Keyboard
Logitech VZ Revolution
And that is basically it. My buddy has 2GB DDR2 RAM laying around that he is going to let me have since he cannot use it, so that covers that cost. Mostly I am needing Mobo and CPU. I like the look of the e5200 since it is $30-40 cheaper than the e7200, and should be significantly faster than my current CPU (AMD64 1.8GHz Single Core) and I will probably get that Gigabyte board since everyone seems to love it, especially as a hackintosh.
My biggest consideration is the video card. I have seen that some 7800GTXs are compatible, but not all... and buying a new video card is not really an option since mine still has a few games left in it. That and I do not have a very big budget for this. Right around $200 at most, which with an $80 CPU and an $90 Mobo, that leaves $30... not much a vidcard there...
FWIW, I have an "Inno3D" branded 7800 GTX (256MB) and it works just fine.. started off on Kalyway 10.5.2 and moved up incrementally to 10.5.5.
That is really good to hear actually. I mean, worst case scenario, I have a passably decent gaming system that is at least much better than my existing system. Best case scenario, I have a second OS X box
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My EFI-X chip came in. It's awesome. Do yourself a favor and buy one:
http://efixusa.net/
Then buy an EP45-DS3R board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...13128344&Tpk=ep45-ds3r
Buy a video card and processor based on the HCL:
http://efi-x.com/index.php?opt...id=26&language=english
Then buy the rest of the parts you want (peripherals, hard drives and optical drives, etc.).
Wowzers. Bye bye Hackintosh, hello EFI-X!
http://efixusa.net/
Then buy an EP45-DS3R board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...13128344&Tpk=ep45-ds3r
Buy a video card and processor based on the HCL:
http://efi-x.com/index.php?opt...id=26&language=english
Then buy the rest of the parts you want (peripherals, hard drives and optical drives, etc.).
Wowzers. Bye bye Hackintosh, hello EFI-X!
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Sweet!
Kaido, please put it through it's paces and let us know how it works! I've got several systems with the mobos on their list- I'm all over one of those!
One thing I'm really curious about- you need to have the EFI-X hooked up when you both install and boot, but can you remove it and boot a second system with it also? Or does it have to remain attached to any system you use it on at all times?
It'd be absolutely perfect if I can boot at least two machines with just one EFI-X.
Kaido, please put it through it's paces and let us know how it works! I've got several systems with the mobos on their list- I'm all over one of those!
One thing I'm really curious about- you need to have the EFI-X hooked up when you both install and boot, but can you remove it and boot a second system with it also? Or does it have to remain attached to any system you use it on at all times?
It'd be absolutely perfect if I can boot at least two machines with just one EFI-X.
Originally posted by: Kaido
My EFI-X chip came in. It's awesome. Do yourself a favor and buy one:
http://efixusa.net/
Then buy an EP45-DS3R board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...13128344&Tpk=ep45-ds3r
Buy a video card and processor based on the HCL:
http://efi-x.com/index.php?opt...id=26&language=english
Then buy the rest of the parts you want (peripherals, hard drives and optical drives, etc.).
Wowzers. Bye bye Hackintosh, hello EFI-X!
I dunno...I'm not sure what happened; maybe it was going $120 over what I though it'd cost, or maybe it's all the options -- different kernels, different boot methods, etc -- or maybe I'm just not as bored as I was a week and a half a go, but my enthusiasm for all of this rapidly waned.
Like, that efi thing looks need, but doesn't it take a minute or two to boot? And adding $150 to the cost isn't trivial on a system that's supposed to cost $400. And why we're here, why is the 45 board better than the 35 board you've based most (all?) your tutorials around?
I guess there's just too many options. And, no, buying a Mac pro for $2000 isn't one of them (although I will be buying a macbook pro soon, I hope.
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Already shot an Unboxing & Installation video (in HD, with good lighting!. Importing & Editing in now, I'll put it up on Vimeo tonight or tomrorow
I'm not 100% sure. I know you need to have it at boot. I tried removing it and the system started acting funny, so I'll have to test it some more.
The EP45-DS3R is the board I bought, should be here tomorrow I hope. 100% compatible and insane specs for the price ($107 AR). Can't wait till the 16gb ram kit pricedrops ($499 right now)!
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Originally posted by: scootermaster
I dunno...I'm not sure what happened; maybe it was going $120 over what I though it'd cost, or maybe it's all the options -- different kernels, different boot methods, etc -- or maybe I'm just not as bored as I was a week and a half a go, but my enthusiasm for all of this rapidly waned.
Like, that efi thing looks need, but doesn't it take a minute or two to boot? And adding $150 to the cost isn't trivial on a system that's supposed to cost $400. And why we're here, why is the 45 board better than the 35 board you've based most (all?) your tutorials around?
I guess there's just too many options. And, no, buying a Mac pro for $2000 isn't one of them (although I will be buying a macbook pro soon, I hope.
My EFI-X system boots in under a minute. I'll install it on my Raptor tomorrow and let you know the results tomorrow as well.
Honestly, I'm very, VERY excited about EFI-X. I've been doing Hackintosh for nearly a year now and it's incredibly nice to have something that "just works". Yes, it's expensive, but it's not expensive for what you get:
Mac Pro: $2800
DIY Mac: $400+
8GB Apple RAM: $1,500.00
8GB Newegg RAM: $150.00
EFI-X chip: $170
Booting Retail Leopard on a PC: Priceless
A grand will get you a super nice system...just look at some of these prices:
2.4ghz Quad-core: $190
8GB RAM: $150
1TB HDD: $135
1.5TB HDD: $190
The cheapest Mac Pro you can get is $2,299 - if you select the single-processor option. When the price difference of 8gb ram is $150 vs $1500, suddenly the $170 EFI-X chip doesn't seem like such a bad deal.
It's not for everyone. It's not for every project. For a $400 Hackintosh, it's probably not the best budgetary concern unless you absolutely don't want compatibility issues.
As far as doing it the patch-based method (Kalyway etc.), I'd still recommend the DS3L. It's a great board with a lot of power and options. For an EFI-X installation, I'd go with the EP45-DS3R.
What it boils down to is (1) your budget and (2) how much work you're will to do (aka how many headaches you're willing to deal with). Unless Boot-132 gets way better in the future, I'll be doing EFI-X installations from now on!
WOOT!
Its alive!
Antec NSK4480B Mini Tower $59.99+tax at my local micro center, includes Earthwatts 380w 80+ certified power supply which is a rebadged Seasonic. Shipping on cases is high, it was on sale locally, I loved it, and it cost about as much as the PS does at Newegg
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L 84.88 shipped from MacPalace7 on eBay
Zotac GeForce 7300GT 256MB 16x PCIe from geeks.com $32.99 plus $4.50 shipping
Samsung 2x2GB DDR2 800 RAM $67.50+tax from my work
Everything else was from newegg $9.62 shipping
Q6600 $189.99
Samsung F1 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB cache $99.99
LH-20A1L-05 Lite-On $26.99
Sabrent68-in-1 card reader $13.99 even includes another front USB port.
$600.96 including tax and shipping. The shipping I halved on the video card because I ordered two.
I am running at 3 GHz on the stock cooler (using arctic silver) with a 1333 (quad pumped 333) FSB and the RAM at 800 with a 2.4 multiplier. The 2.4 multiplier seems odd, but the RAM would not run stably at 900. Its pretty quiet too, but I will be adding a fan to the front to blow some air back onto the video card and PCI cards.
Apple it would cost $2300 for a quad 2.8, ignoring Apple's ridiculous prices for bumping up the RAM and HD. $500 for 2 more 1GB modules? $150 to upgrade to a 750GB HD, and you don't get to keep the 320? Even refurbished its still $1999 for a quad 2.66 with 1 GB RAM and a 250GB HD. I work on the things, but I bought a Mac mini because who can afford a pro machine, and I don't like the glossy screens on the new iMacs. I was seriously looking at buying a refurb white intel iMac, but I am so glad I looked back into building a Hackintosh. Things have come a long way in a year at making this really, really easy to do. Thank you Kaido, because the OSX86 wiki gives virtually no details or how to and Vanilla this and Kalyway that was all greek to me until I found the walkthrough guide, and your hardware recommendations which allowed me to have working dual monitors. I couldn't be happier unless this thing also gave handjobs.
I can't wait to have a working gigabit card and firewire. I may have to do an atom system to use up my IDE superdrive and HD, and qualify for an OEM system builder version of windows. I do want to dual boot to play games, and I will use a separate HD. Am I correct in assuming I need the 64-bit version of XP Pro for gaming? I will only be putting OS X on the atom to have a homebrew mac mini and then sell my high end Mac mini which hasn't been updated in 13 months so I can probably sell it for $600.
Questions:
My ENLGA-1320 Gigabit card was bad, unless I missed a driver for it or something. It should just work, right?
Also, my very old firewire card did not work, and all the known working cards in this thread linked to are discontinued items or out of stock. Can someone link to a know working card at newegg?
Temperature Monitor supports the 4 core sensors, but can't find the combined CPU Case temp which is the temp of the heat spreader. Everyones posted temps are off the CPU case temp. From what I can tell it tends to run 10-15 degrees cooler than the core temps. Maxed out with 4 instances of yes > /dev/null running the max temp I got was 79. Is this too hot? It didn't seem to be but 5 degrees cooler at stock speeds before I tried the artic silver. I am going to burn this puppy up? More to the point is there a temperature utility that does see that sensor? Running it all out to get it hot and then rebooting to check in the PC Health Monitor in the BIOS doesn't work, because it has 30 seconds to cool down.
Its alive!
Antec NSK4480B Mini Tower $59.99+tax at my local micro center, includes Earthwatts 380w 80+ certified power supply which is a rebadged Seasonic. Shipping on cases is high, it was on sale locally, I loved it, and it cost about as much as the PS does at Newegg
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L 84.88 shipped from MacPalace7 on eBay
Zotac GeForce 7300GT 256MB 16x PCIe from geeks.com $32.99 plus $4.50 shipping
Samsung 2x2GB DDR2 800 RAM $67.50+tax from my work
Everything else was from newegg $9.62 shipping
Q6600 $189.99
Samsung F1 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB cache $99.99
LH-20A1L-05 Lite-On $26.99
Sabrent68-in-1 card reader $13.99 even includes another front USB port.
$600.96 including tax and shipping. The shipping I halved on the video card because I ordered two.
I am running at 3 GHz on the stock cooler (using arctic silver) with a 1333 (quad pumped 333) FSB and the RAM at 800 with a 2.4 multiplier. The 2.4 multiplier seems odd, but the RAM would not run stably at 900. Its pretty quiet too, but I will be adding a fan to the front to blow some air back onto the video card and PCI cards.
Apple it would cost $2300 for a quad 2.8, ignoring Apple's ridiculous prices for bumping up the RAM and HD. $500 for 2 more 1GB modules? $150 to upgrade to a 750GB HD, and you don't get to keep the 320? Even refurbished its still $1999 for a quad 2.66 with 1 GB RAM and a 250GB HD. I work on the things, but I bought a Mac mini because who can afford a pro machine, and I don't like the glossy screens on the new iMacs. I was seriously looking at buying a refurb white intel iMac, but I am so glad I looked back into building a Hackintosh. Things have come a long way in a year at making this really, really easy to do. Thank you Kaido, because the OSX86 wiki gives virtually no details or how to and Vanilla this and Kalyway that was all greek to me until I found the walkthrough guide, and your hardware recommendations which allowed me to have working dual monitors. I couldn't be happier unless this thing also gave handjobs.
I can't wait to have a working gigabit card and firewire. I may have to do an atom system to use up my IDE superdrive and HD, and qualify for an OEM system builder version of windows. I do want to dual boot to play games, and I will use a separate HD. Am I correct in assuming I need the 64-bit version of XP Pro for gaming? I will only be putting OS X on the atom to have a homebrew mac mini and then sell my high end Mac mini which hasn't been updated in 13 months so I can probably sell it for $600.
Questions:
My ENLGA-1320 Gigabit card was bad, unless I missed a driver for it or something. It should just work, right?
Also, my very old firewire card did not work, and all the known working cards in this thread linked to are discontinued items or out of stock. Can someone link to a know working card at newegg?
Temperature Monitor supports the 4 core sensors, but can't find the combined CPU Case temp which is the temp of the heat spreader. Everyones posted temps are off the CPU case temp. From what I can tell it tends to run 10-15 degrees cooler than the core temps. Maxed out with 4 instances of yes > /dev/null running the max temp I got was 79. Is this too hot? It didn't seem to be but 5 degrees cooler at stock speeds before I tried the artic silver. I am going to burn this puppy up? More to the point is there a temperature utility that does see that sensor? Running it all out to get it hot and then rebooting to check in the PC Health Monitor in the BIOS doesn't work, because it has 30 seconds to cool down.
The Antec NSK4480B case I bought does have the antivibration mounts for 3 hard drives, and a CPU vent so the stock cooler is drawing in fresh air. Microcenter.com, $59.99. Its quieter than I thought a PC would be. Apple does spoil us with their virtually silent machines.
I knew if I got frustrated for $120 I can buy EFI-X and just work off retail discs. Following the steps is not that hard, and while I had to go to ebay and geeks.com to track down the exact motherboard and video card that are known to work, it did, and it was well worth $120 to drag some kexts onto kexthelper, and burn a kalyway DVD.
I knew if I got frustrated for $120 I can buy EFI-X and just work off retail discs. Following the steps is not that hard, and while I had to go to ebay and geeks.com to track down the exact motherboard and video card that are known to work, it did, and it was well worth $120 to drag some kexts onto kexthelper, and burn a kalyway DVD.
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HAHAHA, $600 got you a BEAST dude! :laugh:
Those Q6600's are crazy...3ghz on the stock cooler is awesome man! I'm really glad you got your system built and running!
Make sure you have your BIOS Ethernet disabled. If you had your Encore card in during install or if you have it in the first slot, move it to a different slot. I had to do that on one of my DS3L builds for some reason. If that doesn't do it, RMA it. Does the light come on when you plug in an Ethernet cable?
I'll tear out my Firewire card tomorrow and check mine, I've been meaning to do that for awhile hehe.
Max temp is 79 is a little toasty but not bad. The Mini goes up to 84C so you're technically okay, although you might want to consider some Arctic Silver 5 paste and a nice, big 120mm aftermarket cooler just to keep things chilled.
EFI-X has it's niche. The DS3L is still an awesome board, especially if you want to build a budget monster. I built one for my mom for around $500 after all was said and done - plays 1080p, has a Time Machine drive, built-in card reader for her digital camera, runs her XP VM for Print Shop and other Windows app, etc. Absolutely kills the Mini in both price and performance. I can remote into her machine anytime to help her and the automatic hourly backup is just awesome.
Congrats dude!
The quad core cooler does have the copper fluid filled center, with aluminum fins. The outer cooler fins don't even feel warm. I may go Arctic Freezer 7 Pro at some point, but this sure is quiet. It is Arctic Silver 5, when the MacBooks first came out and were shutting down because of overheating I had several customers pay me to put some Arctic Silver 5 to replace the stock heatsink paste, and most left me the rest of their tube.
Now that I am not encoding video with Handbrake the cores are 50, 50, 51, and 54. While encoding with Handbrake they were all 70-72. Handbrake does use multiple CPUs and is over twice as fast than on my 2.0 Mac Mini with 4 GB RAM. Which was 15 times faster than my old G4 mac mini
Encore: The light did sometimes light up amber, and sometimes it wouldn't, I tried another patch cable, and the Gigabit hub never lit up. I did disable the onboard NIC before doing the install, but I did have the Encore in from the get go. I did move it to another slot, and ended up using an old Realtek 8139b 10/100 card which works perfectly, but I am going all gigabit because EyeTV shares HD quality video across the network to the other Macs. And I like the bonjour shares showing up in the finder sidebar, so I don't want to live with the quirks of the onboard NIC. At $8 it may cost almost as much to mail it back, so I may at least wait until I can try it in another machine.
Now that I am not encoding video with Handbrake the cores are 50, 50, 51, and 54. While encoding with Handbrake they were all 70-72. Handbrake does use multiple CPUs and is over twice as fast than on my 2.0 Mac Mini with 4 GB RAM. Which was 15 times faster than my old G4 mac mini
Encore: The light did sometimes light up amber, and sometimes it wouldn't, I tried another patch cable, and the Gigabit hub never lit up. I did disable the onboard NIC before doing the install, but I did have the Encore in from the get go. I did move it to another slot, and ended up using an old Realtek 8139b 10/100 card which works perfectly, but I am going all gigabit because EyeTV shares HD quality video across the network to the other Macs. And I like the bonjour shares showing up in the finder sidebar, so I don't want to live with the quirks of the onboard NIC. At $8 it may cost almost as much to mail it back, so I may at least wait until I can try it in another machine.
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If anyone is looking for a great multi-function printer, check out the HP J6480: (might have mentioned this before)
http://www.shopping.hp.com/web...14110944&ci_sku=CB029A
Staples sometimes has it on sale for $149 (online but more often in-store); you can pick up a $30 off $150 coupon for eBay for a buck or two and snag it for $120 with free shipping. It features:
1. USB, Ethernet, and Wifi connectivity
2. Double-sided printing
3. Built-in Card Reader
4. Flatbed Scanner AND Auto-document feeder
5. 250-sheet tray and 50-sheet Auto-Document Feeder tray
6. Nice scanner
7. Takes XL print cartrides (~700 prints black) - twice the cost for over 3x the ink
Got one to go with my mom's Hackintosh, really great little multifunction!
http://www.shopping.hp.com/web...14110944&ci_sku=CB029A
Staples sometimes has it on sale for $149 (online but more often in-store); you can pick up a $30 off $150 coupon for eBay for a buck or two and snag it for $120 with free shipping. It features:
1. USB, Ethernet, and Wifi connectivity
2. Double-sided printing
3. Built-in Card Reader
4. Flatbed Scanner AND Auto-document feeder
5. 250-sheet tray and 50-sheet Auto-Document Feeder tray
6. Nice scanner
7. Takes XL print cartrides (~700 prints black) - twice the cost for over 3x the ink
Got one to go with my mom's Hackintosh, really great little multifunction!
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Originally posted by: Psycho Donut Killer
The quad core cooler does have the copper fluid filled center, with aluminum fins. The outer cooler fins don't even feel warm. I may go Arctic Freezer 7 Pro at some point, but this sure is quiet. It is Arctic Silver 5, when the MacBooks first came out and were shutting down because of overheating I had several customers pay me to put some Arctic Silver 5 to replace the stock heatsink paste, and most left me the rest of their tube.
Now that I am not encoding video with Handbrake the cores are 50, 50, 51, and 54. While encoding with Handbrake they were all 70-72. Handbrake does use multiple CPUs and is over twice as fast than on my 2.0 Mac Mini with 4 GB RAM. Which was 15 times faster than my old G4 mac mini
Encore: The light did sometimes light up amber, and sometimes it wouldn't, I tried another patch cable, and the Gigabit hub never lit up. I did disable the onboard NIC before doing the install, but I did have the Encore in from the get go. I did move it to another slot, and ended up using an old Realtek 8139b 10/100 card which works perfectly, but I am going all gigabit because EyeTV shares HD quality video across the network to the other Macs. And I like the bonjour shares showing up in the finder sidebar, so I don't want to live with the quirks of the onboard NIC. At $8 it may cost almost as much to mail it back, so I may at least wait until I can try it in another machine.
Yeah definitely snag a new Encore card, I have 3 sitting here that are all fully-functional; sounds like you got a dud!
70-72 is completely normal, you're golden!
I agree, it's completely worth $8 to have everything work. And Gigabit for streaming is just so nice...I can stream my 1080p x264 MKV Bluray rips across my Gigabit network from my NAS to Plex (DEFINITELY try Plex if you haven't yet!) flawlessly. My future Home Theater setup will be a Plex-based Hackintosh Media Center plus Tivo HD. I do like EyeTV a lot, but my wife prefers Tivo over everything and since my Mac can import Tivo files I'm just sticking with that platform.
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Apple's memory prices for the Mac Pro are certifiably insane. It's clearly one way they make a LOT of money preying on customers that don't shop prices.
That $1,500 8GB RAM can be had at newegg for $260. A $1240 (!!!) markup.
They charge $3,500 for 16GB of RAM- newegg: $540. A $2960 (!!!@!) markup- heck, you could buy another MacPro PLUS the RAM with what they overcharge you! Pure insanity.
That said, the MacPro itself is a steal for what you get for $3,000. You could barely buy the dual processors alone for that.
On other topics- while the EFI-X method is certainly cool and probably makes things much easier (I sure as heck want one, just because it's the latest/greatest and I have the hardware already to use it) I'd still reiterate that using a well-supported board and install method the 'old school way' is not really any big hardship in comparison. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Upgrading to 10.5.5 wasn't hard, but once again, I find it's doing NOTHING (I'll repeat that, NOTHING) that 10.5.4 wasn't doing for me. Yay, another number changed. Waiting a little bit until the method of update was posted cost me nothing. (And it's been the exact same pattern with every update now since 10.5.1 when I started building Hackintoshes).
The P45 boards are a better buy than chasing outdated P35 boards simply because technology marches forward. The P45 chipset supports greater amounts of higher speed RAM, has a faster FSB, and best of all- is still in production. As good as the older P35 boards are, there's a point where people can't keep chasing down discontinued hardware and the spec will have to move forward.
$600 to $1000 for the level of Hackintosh you can build is an absolute steal, any way you slice it. Sub $500 and I just don't know what else you can expect- you're already getting away with murder to get a modern, expandable tower Mac in the price range!
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Haha yup!
EFI-X is about convenience and future-proofing. Darwin, the Hackintosh boot code, is built on a system that is about two years old...eventually it will break and there really aren't a lot of programmers in the Hackintosh community. There are a select few and even they aren't super familiar with the ins and outs of that system. The programming scene is something of a soap opera over there...iirc even netkas stole the code for his PC-EFI system from someone else and caused a big scandal, but it helped out so many people that they let it slide.
I had a good chat with the CEO of EFI-X tonight and learned even more about how their system works. Needless to say, it's extremely impressive and they have some amazing hardware and software planned for the future. Let's just say I'm ordering a 4-port Highpoint RAID card...to boot off of natively using EFI-X
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