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400,000,000 eggs down the hatch

Mermaidman

Mermaidman

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This seems asinine. In the US, eggs laid by meat chickens are not allowed for human consumption due to an FDA regulation. That's 400 meellion eggs annually, according to the National Chicken Council. (Wait . . . What? There's a National Chicken Council ?)

FREE THE EGGS!
 
Reminds me a lot of the BS that goes on in the dairy industry. If they produce too much milk they have to dump it, it's sickening. Lot of people are starving and more than half the food produced is wasted before it even hits grocery shelves. There's lot of politics in food industry. Liability and all that BS.
 
The industry produces 100 billion eggs a year so adding 400 million isn't going to move the needle much.

Not to mention I don't trust the food industry when they say their lower meat chicken laid egg standards are as safe as the FDA rules. For several years I worked at a company heavily involved in food and water safety and it's pretty staggering the shit companies try to get away with
 
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Red Squirrel said:
Reminds me a lot of the BS that goes on in the dairy industry. If they produce too much milk they have to dump it, it's sickening. Lot of people are starving and more than half the food produced is wasted before it even hits grocery shelves. There's lot of politics in food industry. Liability and all that BS.
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Interesting that you confuse safety with liability
 
Red Squirrel said:
Reminds me a lot of the BS that goes on in the dairy industry. If they produce too much milk they have to dump it, it's sickening. Lot of people are starving and more than half the food produced is wasted before it even hits grocery shelves. There's lot of politics in food industry. Liability and all that BS.
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Not to mention all the facilities that have been set on fire recently!
 
There is no ban on meat eggs going into the food stream. The meat eggs are fertilized and have to be kept warm to be viable. If they are kept warm then they cant go into the food stream. If the producers want to shunt the eggs into the food stream all they have to do is chill them within 36 hours. So instead of modifying their flow to chill any surplus eggs, they want some sort of break to have their warm eggs AND be able to eventually sell them as food. Its the producers that are the ones choosing to just dump eggs.
From the link: "stated that all eggs intended to be sent to breaking facilities for eventual pasteurization must be kept at 45°F within 36 hours after being laid."
 
Would still be crap quality eggs if they did enter the distribution channel.

Also National Chicken Council is a piece of shit(lobbyists, unethical).

I think it's pretty obvious Big Chicken is Big Chickenshitheads. I mean, the chicken farmers are basically stuck in debt to them, and being "forced to upgrade" equipment or getting the shitty chickens is a the legal way to prevent farmer rebellion or snitching. This is for meat raising, but the conditions for the egg-layers aren't that much different. Dark warehouses, shit everywhere.

I never ate the cheap eggs because their taste suck and so did the smell of them being cooked, maybe to my detriment but w/e.
 
Seems to me that the biggest problem here is that anything that ended up in those fertilized eggs making them "unsafe" has to have originated in whatever these greedy bastages have been feeding the chickens.... and it's also in their meat.

Anyone doubt for an instant that the big egg companies/farms would do pretty much anything they felt they could get away with to jack up profits?

My suggestion would be to stay FAR away from any eggs that come from "factory-farms" even if you have to pay more.

BUY LOCAL. 🙂
 
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Yeah I need to start looking into buying local. It's just so much more convenient to go to the groceries but I'd have to put in more effort and support local. I need to inform myself but pretty sure there's a few places here that do sell local eggs, meat etc. Need to stop supporting the factory farms.

pete6032 said:
Not to mention all the facilities that have been set on fire recently!
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There actually has been several egg facility fires this year. Here's a recent one: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/01/30/chickens-killed-in-fire-at-connecticut-egg-farm/

But this is perfectly normal. Major facilities down all the time! /s
 
Red Squirrel said:
But this is perfectly normal. Major facilities down all the time! /s
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"It was the second such incident in the past seven years for Hillandale Farms, after a 2016 barn fire in Lebanon killed between 80,000 and 100,000 birds."

~ Per CT Insider


Barn fires: chickens make up 95 percent of all animal deaths caused by fires (ThePoultrysite.com)

  • 326 barn fires killed at least 2,763,924 farm animals in the United States.
  • Chickens represented 95 percent of all farm animals who died in barn fires.
  • The main cause (or suspected cause) of barn fires was malfunctioning or misused heating devices, accounting for nearly half of all barn fires.
 
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Why do people believe in conspiracy theories?
(Livescience.com)

"Research suggests people are attracted to conspiracy theories when one or more psychological needs are frustrated," Douglas said. "The first of these needs are epistemic — related to the need to know the truth and have clarity and certainty. The other needs are existential, which are related to the need to feel safe and to have some control over things that are happening, and social, related to the need to maintain our self-esteem and feel positive about the groups that we belong to."


Just sayin. 😉
 
It's not really a conspiracy theory when it's literally happening though. Also most of us who are called "conpsiracy theorists" wish we were wrong because all the things are bad things, but we just observe reality and point out at what is happening or about to happen. It's being realist.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Yeah I need to start looking into buying local. It's just so much more convenient to go to the groceries but I'd have to put in more effort and support local. I need to inform myself but pretty sure there's a few places here that do sell local eggs, meat etc. Need to stop supporting the factory farms.



There actually has been several egg facility fires this year. Here's a recent one: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/01/30/chickens-killed-in-fire-at-connecticut-egg-farm/

But this is perfectly normal. Major facilities down all the time! /s
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Pretty soon you'll be raising all your own chickens, milking your own cows, slaughtering your own pigs and cooking them too with all your fresh greenhouse veggies.

Why would you still be buying eggs? Shouldn't you be practicing animal husbandry? Chickens are the easiest bro.
 
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Red Squirrel said:
Yeah I need to start looking into buying local. It's just so much more convenient to go to the groceries but I'd have to put in more effort and support local.
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Ummmm. Aren't you planning on living in a cabin in the woods miles from anywhere that gets cut off for 6 months of the year?
And it's too much effort to go to more than one food source?

Yup. You're gonna die.
 
WelshBloke said:
Ummmm. Aren't you planning on living in a cabin in the woods miles from anywhere that gets cut off for 6 months of the year?
And it's too much effort to go to more than one food source?

Yup. You're gonna die.
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I never said it was too much effort, it's just that when I happen to be at the grocery store I just end up getting eggs there. Once I'm living out there I'll probably still go out to get groceries but I will probably also have my own chickens and grow my own stuff. I never said it was hard, just that I need to actually do it.
 
waffleironhead said:
There is no ban on meat eggs going into the food stream. The meat eggs are fertilized and have to be kept warm to be viable. If they are kept warm then they cant go into the food stream. If the producers want to shunt the eggs into the food stream all they have to do is chill them within 36 hours. So instead of modifying their flow to chill any surplus eggs, they want some sort of break to have their warm eggs AND be able to eventually sell them as food. Its the producers that are the ones choosing to just dump eggs.
From the link: "stated that all eggs intended to be sent to breaking facilities for eventual pasteurization must be kept at 45°F within 36 hours after being laid."
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Why can't they convert the eggs deemed not fit for human consumption to other uses, such as animal feed?
 
waffleironhead said:
There is no ban on meat eggs going into the food stream. The meat eggs are fertilized and have to be kept warm to be viable. If they are kept warm then they cant go into the food stream. If the producers want to shunt the eggs into the food stream all they have to do is chill them within 36 hours. So instead of modifying their flow to chill any surplus eggs, they want some sort of break to have their warm eggs AND be able to eventually sell them as food. Its the producers that are the ones choosing to just dump eggs.
From the link: "stated that all eggs intended to be sent to breaking facilities for eventual pasteurization must be kept at 45°F within 36 hours after being laid."
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Thank you. So much moronic idiocy about food science stuff these days that its nice when bullshit gets refuted.

Which now, makes me wonder, was all this egg stuff just the producers trying to cause a situation that they could then leverage to get reduction in regulations? And uh, not sure why they think that'd make sense given it seems they need more regulations in order to deal with birdflu and other. Why are companies constantly so fucking scummy?
 
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