4 UK men jailed for toy-car terror plot

Carfax83

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LONDON (AP) — The terror plot involved targeting British reserve troops using a toy-car packed with explosives.

But investigators said Thursday Britain's domestic spy agency of MI5 and police were able to stop Zahid Iqbal, Mohammed Sharfaraz Ahmed, Umar Arshad and Syed Farhan Hussain before they could launch the deadly attack.

Iqbal and Ahmed were given extended sentences of 16 years and 3 months, which means they will be in jail for more than 11 years and put on parole for the rest of the time. Arshad was sentenced to more than six years in jail, while Hussain received more than five years.

The British men — aged between 22 and 31 — pleaded guilty in March to engaging in conduct in preparation for acts of terrorism.

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More terror plots, this time in the U.K. Luckily, these fuckers were nabbed before they could do any damage. How many terror plots do you think are foiled every day by both domestic and foreign intelligence services all over the World?

Must be a shit load.. :\

And they received fairly light sentences too, which is surprising. The longest sentence was 16 years, the shortest 5 years; they will also be getting out early most likely.. The British justice system is taking quite a risk of not giving them much longer sentences, as they are all young men and will still be relatively young upon their release.

Even though their plot failed and a life sentence isn't warranted, their sentence should be long enough so that they are all grey bearded and feeble by the time they come out of jail..
 

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These guys were trying to blow up British troops and they get 5 - 11 years in jail. Surely in 5 - 11 years when they come out they'll be model citizens and won't try anything else...... riiiiiiight. There is no cure for their brand of crazy, they need to be put down like the rabid animals they are.
 

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Even though their plot failed and a life sentence isn't warranted, their sentence should be long enough so that they are all grey bearded and feeble by the time they come out of jail..

Why not?

If you are engaging in a plot to murder people and the police manage to stop you ahead of time why should the fact that the police stopped you ahead of time get you a lighter sentence?
 

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Why not?

If you are engaging in a plot to murder people and the police manage to stop you ahead of time why should the fact that the police stopped you ahead of time get you a lighter sentence?

Because that obviously means they had a change of heart and thus deserve lenience :awe:
 

Carfax83

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Why not?

If you are engaging in a plot to murder people and the police manage to stop you ahead of time why should the fact that the police stopped you ahead of time get you a lighter sentence?

Receiving a life sentence is a very heavy penalty, something which I think should be reserved for the very worst and most violent offenders; convicted murderers, pedophiles, hardened unrepentant terrorists etcetera...

A life sentence for potential, rather than demonstrated violence is excessive to me.

If I had it my way, I would have given them a max of 40 years, with the lightest sentence being 30....no chance for parole. That way, they'd be old, grey and hopefully subdued when released.
 

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No mention of possible motivation. I wonder if they're homegrown rightwingers?
 

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Receiving a life sentence is a very heavy penalty, something which I think should be reserved for the very worst and most violent offenders; convicted murderers, pedophiles, hardened unrepentant terrorists etcetera...

A life sentence for potential, rather than demonstrated violence is excessive to me.

If I had it my way, I would have given them a max of 40 years, with the lightest sentence being 30....no chance for parole. That way, they'd be old, grey and hopefully subdued when released.

Subdued? Yeah, good luck with that.
 

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Those guys look like such stereotypes...lol

Top left is cross eyed and bottom right has a unibrow that you could build a monorail train on.
 

dank69

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The dude on the top left has the "crazy eyes".
Heh, I almost posted this exact thing.

They all gone get raped in jail anyway so they'll have to off themselves since Allah no likey impurities.
 

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Receiving a life sentence is a very heavy penalty, something which I think should be reserved for the very worst and most violent offenders; convicted murderers, pedophiles, hardened unrepentant terrorists etcetera...

A life sentence for potential, rather than demonstrated violence is excessive to me.

I'd agree with you if they had actually had a change of heart and decided not to go through with it... but they didn't. They didn't get the chance to kill innocent people because police stopped them. I don't think any penalty is too heavy for them. If it was up to me they'd be taken out back and put down.
 

raildogg

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Ha, grow out your beard, wear a traditional dress and act like your a Muslim yet inside your full of hate. What people we are. All of us, including me. :(
 

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When you have Herp McDerpington and the Missing Link on your team what else can you do but fail?
 

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If I had it my way, I would have given them a max of 40 years, with the lightest sentence being 30....no chance for parole. That way, they'd be old, grey and hopefully subdued when released.
yeah this.
There's always psych internation for later if necessary.

A 22 years old guy who is out in 11 years will still be dangerous and have contacts. 40 years with restricted external comunication would be better.
 

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They should have arrested those guys for just for those ugly ass beards....yikes......
 

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Wow, those men [especially the top left and bottom right] should be the poster children for reason #1 not to inbreed. I think its fair to say that even their mothers were scared shitless when she saw how fugly they are.
 

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No mention of possible motivation. I wonder if they're homegrown rightwingers?


You mean left-wingers. They will vote left in Europe but in their homelands they would vote for the extreme far-right [ie: Taliban].
The below is about Turks who are pretty moderate overall, but if the Turks vote that way then im sure Ahmad from Pakistan would vote even more far left to get his handouts in Europe and then vote for Bin-Laden Jr. In Pakistan.



http://www.todayszaman.com/news-312164-turkish-immigrants-vote-left-in-europe-right-in-turkey.html


"Members of Turkish communities residing in Europe -- most of whom have been living in their host countries for more than two decades and about 20 percent of whom were born in Europe -- overwhelmingly vote for left-wing parties in their host countries while they vote for right-wing political parties in Turkish elections.

This observation comes from a comprehensive study of the 5 million European residents of Turkish origin conducted by Hacettepe University's Center for Migration and Political Studies (HUGO).

The first wave of immigrants went to Germany 50 years ago as temporary workers, but today they are starting to display the qualities of a diaspora. HUGO's survey, titled “EuroTurks Barometer,” found that most of those in Europe of Turkish origin want to live in both countries. The survey, led by researchers and HUGO Director Murat Erdoğan, was conducted in six EU countries where the Turkish population is over 100,000 by interviewing 2,634 people aged 14 and up selected from 22,099 households."