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R0H1T

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They never 'redefined' GB. G is an SI prefix that means 10^9. That is all that it can mean. GB can only mean 1000 MB which can only mean 1000 KB which can only mean 1000 B. No one was sold a bill of goods. If you want to blame anyone, blame whoever it was that decided to use the SI prefixes to stand-in for proper ones in a base-2 environment. If, from day one, people just got used to saying things like gibibyte and tebibyte, then we wouldn't have this issue. The majority of people (at least in the US, I can't speak for other countries) don't use SI prefixes on most things. The only time it ever comes up is with computers. They could have nipped this in the bud from day one.
Hence the accusation that OEM's are duping their customers ! In most parts of the world SI units are standard but for some reason the likes of Seagate/WD et al decided to have a field day & sell binary laden hard drives as decimal units in the sense that they falsely advertise(don't they :confused:) 1024 bytes as 1K Bytes o_O

If there are any non-US people here, do folks in other countries say 'megameter' or 1000 km?
Simple you don't go that far btw how does that imperial system help(or not) you outside of the US ?
 
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TheStu

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Hence the accusation that OEM's are duping their customers ! In most parts of the world SI units are standard but for some reason the likes of Seagate/WD et al decided to have a field day & sell binary laden hard drives as decimal units in the sense that they falsely advertise(don't they :confused:) 1024 bytes as 1K Bytes o_O

Simple you don't go that far btw how does that imperial system help(or not) you outside of the US ?

On a 10KB drive, you are being sold a drive that can flip 80,000 bits (10,000 bytes) on the platters. There is no false advertising here. Only a misunderstanding on the part of consumer about the difference between a KB and a KiB.

Once plugged into a computer, it takes those 10,000 bytes and uses them, but labels it as 9.77 KB. Because someone, NOT the drive manufacturers but someone else, in the EARLY days decided that KiB was too hard, or was an extra character (and therefore an extra byte) that didn't need to be displayed. And since only nerds and engineers use computers, and will only ever be the ones to use computers, they'll surely know the difference.

It is similar to the issues that were supposed to be harbingers of our disaster 14 years ago. A decision made early on when resources were precious had the potential byte (heh) people in the ass many years later.

The point I was making about using SI prefixes is that, like I said, people don't say that Paris is 1.4 megameters from Lisbon, they say that Paris is 1400 kilometers from Lisbon. Computer and cell phones have introduced the higher SI prefixes into the lay lexicon, and they are basically the only ones that did.
 

Engineer

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Did you have the real Hardcard and not one of the knock-offs? Man those things were expensive - but oh so cool.

I had the 30MB Hardcard in 1988. It was given to me by a friend and wouldn't fit in my PC. I opened it up, removed the ribbon cable, cut the card in half, folded it, attached it back together and reconnected the ribbon cable.

Was in heaven with 30MB of storage! :biggrin:
 

Phynaz

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Sorry, but you didn't have a Hardcard.

A Hardcard had neither a ribbon cable or came in 30MB size. What you had was one of the knock-offs that just screwed a regular 3.5" drive onto a bracket.