4 Port SMC Barricade with 4 Users, how to add another?

[Gillbot]

4 Port SMC Barricade with 4 Users, how to add another?
i tried to go from port 4 with a reg cat5 cable to another switch (via X-over port) but the PC's hooked to that extra switch can't see the network at all.

What to do?

 

[Russ]

Is port 4 shared with the uplink port on the router? If so, is the uplink port populated? If the answer is yes in both cases, port 4 won't work.

Is your switch one where the uplink port is switchable between uplink and standard? If so, did you make sure it's set to uplink? Also, make sure you're not using whatever port is shared with the uplink.

Are you using the DHCP feature of the router? If so, are the additional systems set to aquire an IP address automatically, and did you reboot them after hooking them up?

Russ, NCNE

 

[Gillbot]

so what you are saying is the port 4 on the SMC Barricade needs to be the uplink?
the SMC is a standard 4 port switch/router and the uplink was on the "add-on" switch

The SMC Barricade doesn't have an up-link port on it. i was going from port 4 on the router to the uplink port on the switch (port 5 is X-over or reg) and the 5th PC was hooked to port 1 on the added switch.

 

[Chatterjee]

either you plugin a cable from an uplink port on the router to a regular port on the switch.. if it doesn't have an uplink switch, then you go from the regular port on the router to the uplink port on the switch

If BOTH don't have uplink ports you need a crossover cable to link two regular ports.

-S

 

[Russ]

Actually, I was asking if it was shared with the uplink. I've never used the SMC, so I wasn't aware that it has no uplink port. The Linksys is 4 port, plus the uplink.

If you are running from a standard port to the uplink on the switch, AND you've made sure that the port is set to uplink, it should work fine, as long as you have the fifth system configured correctly.

Have you tried a different cable?

Russ, NCNE

 

[Gillbot]

"AND you've made sure that the port is set to uplink"

no idea how to "set" it to uplink, i thought it was a plug and go deal

 

[Eug]

I'm getting confused.

SMC has a WAN and 4 ports, and no uplink. And I assume you're running DSL/Cable

So:

DSL/Cable --> regular CAT 5 patch cable --> WAN port on SMC

Then:

Any port on SMC --> regular CAT 5 patch cable --> uplink port on switch (make sure it's set as uplink)

Or:

Any port on SMC --> Crossover cable --> any port on switch (NOT set for uplink)

 

[Russ]

<< Is your switch one where the uplink port is switchable between uplink and standard? >>



Apparently yours isn't.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Gillbot]

Eug:

i tried to run it with reg cat5 from reg port on SMC to uplink port on Switch
didn't work, maybe bad cable?

SMC has a WAN and 4 ports, and no uplink. And I assume you're running DSL/Cable

So:

DSL/Cable --> regular CAT 5 patch cable --> WAN port on SMC

Then:

Any port on SMC --> regular CAT 5 patch cable --> uplink port on switch (make sure it's set as uplink)


that is how it was setup, but there isn't any &quot;setting&quot; on the switch to be uplink, it just has two port 5's, one says port5 and the other says uplink 5

 

[Baba Booey]

Are you getting a connection light on the router and switch?
Do you have a system hooked up to port5? If so, the uplink port will not work.

 

[Gillbot]

pc on port 2, router to port 5 &quot;uplink&quot;. both port 5 and 2 lights were on but it couldn't see the network or internet.
i did winipcfg and all ip's came up as 0.0.0.0

 

[Baba Booey]

If the systems on the port2 doesn't have an IP address, go into the network settings under TCP/IP and tell it to Obtain an IP address automatically. The SMC router will assign the IP, Subnet mask, and gateway and you should be good to go.

 

[Gillbot]

i ran winipcfg and release all, then reboot, set to auto detect, then run winipcfg and when i saw it was still 0.0.0.0 i hit renew all. this crashed the system.

 

[Sukhoi]

Are the ports on the SMC those autoswitching crossover ones? Try going from the SMC to the switch with a straight cable, and don't connect it to the crossover port on the switch.

 

[JackMDS]

Disconnect 2 computers from the Barricade, and put them on the switch, install NetBEUI (coz there is nothing to configure), and see if the switch is working, independed from the Barricade.

Barricade has one WAN port (Uplink goes to Modem), and four regular Hub ports Autosensing 10/100.

The rules of cabling.

NIC to NIC - Crossover Cable.
NIC to HUB - Straight Cable
NIC to Uplink - Crossover Cable (Uplink is NIC plug on Hub/Switch).

HUB (regular) to HUB (regular) - Crossover Cable.
HUB (regular) to HUB Uplink - StraightCable.

Cable/DSL entry (WAN) on a Cable/DSL Routers is an Uplink.

If your Modem came with Straight Cable:

Modem to NIC - Straight Cable
Modem to HUB - Crossover Cable.
Modem to Uplink - Straight Cable

If your Modem Came with Crossover Cable:

Modem to NIC - Crossover Cable.
Modem to HUB - Straight Cable
Modem to Uplink - Crossover Cable.

Modem RJ45 output is not a standard, it can be Straight or Crossover, use what your modem came with.

 

[Gillbot]

&quot;Are the ports on the SMC those autoswitching crossover ones? Try going from the SMC to the switch with a straight cable, and don't connect it to the crossover port on the switch.&quot;

i'll try that as well. i was wondering if they auto switched or there was a setup paramater i missed.

 

[kw7]

I have a very similar setup at home, a SMC 4-ports router and a Linksys 5-ports switch. All I did is plug a stright patch cable in the uplink port of the Linksys switch and the normal port of the SMC router... good luck

 

[Quickfingerz]

i have my two routers connected together

SMC DSL/CABLE Router -> Regular Patch -> uplink port of Linksys DSL/CABLE Router

I can use either router as gateway as each router is connected to a different IP address

i've also connected ===> &quot;normal&quot; port -> x-over cable -> &quot;normal&quot; port