4 dead SSD's in under a year

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Jimmah

Jimmah

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I may have the touch of death. First it was 2 OCZ Solid Series that died within minutes of each other. RMA'd and new Solid 2's arrived shortly. Thinking it was my PSU being behind it I replaced it. 8 months and no problems.

Last evening I was noticing Windows was getting really sluggish, comparing to my wife's machine with a single Vertex drive mine was a slug. Thought a re-install would do the trick, I got as far as it booting up under the new Win7 install, reboot and the dreaded recovery screen. Detected a corrupt array so in went a new install just to make sure. This time it won't recognize the array or even in single drive mode.

Drive Utility in Ubuntu shows a SMART table thats brand new, but 20k+ read erros and bad sectors per drive, and either drive is unable to complete a short self test (left it overnight).

Never buying one of these again, almost as bad as their RAM.
 
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GlacierFreeze

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My next build will have a couple SSDs in it. Looks like I'll have to try my best to remember not to use OCZ drives.
 
Jimmah

Jimmah

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First set: Solid Series 60gb
Second set: Solid 2 Series 60gb

Albeit they were half-free (got one from a product rep and the other was 40$ after rebates) it was a poor choice, should've gone with the Corsair or Kingstons at the time.

Oh well, maybe this time I will try to get some Vertex 2's out of them.
 
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Gigantopithecus

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I read the title of this thread and immediately thought 'OP's PSU is either junk or he's using OCZ SSDs.'

As others have said, stick with Intel.
 
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MrWheezy

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Go Intel or OWC/Corsair.

Get a company that actually CARES about their customers. As another poster said, I wouldn't go with a company that's about as honest as a "street whore" even if their goods are one of the best on the market.
 
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Emulex

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intel doesn't use sandforce. sandforce is used by owc/corsair. the problem is sandforce. bad sf-12xx - bad sf-2xxx - next up? SF-3xxx junk?
 
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bunnyfubbles

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Emulex said:
intel doesn't use sandforce. sandforce is used by owc/corsair. the problem is sandforce. bad sf-12xx - bad sf-2xxx - next up? SF-3xxx junk?
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ignorance ftl, Solid and Solid 2 used Indilinx controllers

Sandforce might not be the most reliable but they're certainly not as bad as you suggest, and they're also easily the top performing controllers.
 
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Chaoticlusts

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while I know OCZ have the highest failure rates of the main SSD manufacturer's they're researched failure rates still mean that 4 failing for a single person in one year is *incredible* bad luck...the failure rate is supposed to average at 3&#37; for them (which yes is significantly higher than intels below 1%...I think they have .5 or something) corsair is supposed to be 2% if I remember right don't know about the other companies....but even 2 is a lot lower than 3 in terms of your odds of a drive you buy failing...still a 1 in 33 chance of a drive fail (which is OCZ) while high and certainly high enough that you'll hear tons about it online since anyone who has a drive fail will post and OCZ is a big company so sell a lot of drives...well 1 in 33 four times over....that's either insanely bad luck or the place your getting them from is dodgy..I guess if your looking at 'batches' you could say you got 2 sets of bad drives from 2 bad batches with higher than normal failure rates so at most could reduce it to 1 in 33 two times over...but that's still pretty damn bad luck...sorry to hear that mate...hope I don't have your luck >_< (got an Vertex III Max IOPS on the way) but like the people here said if you want the peace of mind of not having to stress about going through this *again* which is fair enough...go intel they're failure rates are tiny compared to anyone else you do pay a little extra for it but peace of mind has value :)
 
Dulanic

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The newer Samsung 470's seem pretty good so far. I just picked one up and haven't seen anything bad. Upside is it's all samsung controller and all.
 
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Emulex

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bunnyfubbles said:
ignorance ftl, Solid and Solid 2 used Indilinx controllers

Sandforce might not be the most reliable but they're certainly not as bad as you suggest, and they're also easily the top performing controllers.
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performance is useless with outstanding bugs that the suppliers will not fix. you can agree with that statement?
 
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groberts101

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Just to get the Intel girls around here upset even more?.. my 15 OCZ drives are great.

Even if I lose/kill/murder an Indilinx based drive(regular Vertex) while heavily OC'd and running within a 6 drive array?.. I just use a destructive flash tool to revive it without more than 15 minutes of downtime. Ummm.. yeah.. you can do that since they don't actually "DIE". LOL

And with 4 dead drives on one system?.. it pays to discover what the hell the underlying issues are there.

Here's a hint for the OP. The 2 Indilinx drives were voltage/loading/firmware issue related.. and the 2 Sandforce drives were sleep transition/firmware related.
 
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Binky

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4 dead SSD's
1 SSD manufacturer
1 user
1 computer

Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't see OCZ as the clear cause here.
 
taltamir

taltamir

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Binky said:
4 dead SSD's
1 SSD manufacturer
1 user
1 computer

Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't see OCZ as the clear cause here.
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agreed. OCZ is a possible cause but not certain.
What PSU did you have before? what did you replace it with?
It could also potentially be the motherboard (sending too much voltage via the SATA data link, I have had a mobo that would do that and destroy HDDs, quickly and en masse)

I don't believe user is a plausible cause in this case though.
 
Jimmah

Jimmah

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Binky said:
4 dead SSD's
1 SSD manufacturer
1 user
1 computer

Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't see OCZ as the clear cause here.
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That is a fair assumption/opinion. I did replace the 500w Cooler Master PSU with a Silverstone 550w, and the motherboard was swapped later for one with more ddr2 slots. GPU was also upgraded 4x but it shouldn't make much difference.

There was also a 640gb drive in port 2, SSD's were in ports 3/4, so I assume any voltage problems would've spilled over to the 640 as well, yet no problems ever.

Just checked the drives using Crystal Disk Info, program crashes every time I try loading either ssd, DickCheckup does the same.

A few months ago I bought a Kingston 64gb drive on deep sale, it also turned out bad in a totally different machine (this laptop).

TOUCH OF DEATH, I has it.
 
Jimmah

Jimmah

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Puffnstuff said:
Does the op have a line conditioner/avr supplying clean power to the pc?
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Ya, APC Back-Ups 1000 or whatever the name is.

Who knows maybe it's something totally benign, or I have terrible electronic karma and don't know it.
 
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