3TB USB 2.0 External Drive$120... Seagate FreeAgent - No Rebates, Free Ship

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sgrinavi

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Does that come with the 50% DOA rate or the 75% DOA rate?

Yes, because the founding principals of every multi bazillion dollar corporation include shipping prioducts that fail 3 out of 4 times. The cornerstone of success for sure.
 

killster1

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Yes, because the founding principals of every multi bazillion dollar corporation include shipping prioducts that fail 3 out of 4 times. The cornerstone of success for sure.

well id say its a thread crap but looked at newegg reviews and wow they are 70% terrible heheh.. seagate used to be my fav untill the 7200.10 i think.. ;/ now i just hope the wd black drives i buy dont die before backup time.
 

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Yes, Newegg reviews are reliable because 100% of buyers post a review. Therefore you know exactly how many people receive a defective drive.....
 

jjmIII

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Yes, Newegg reviews are reliable because 100% of buyers post a review. Therefore you know exactly how many people receive a defective drive.....

true, problaby more are defective than we even know :)
 

masteryoda34

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My latest experience with Seagate has lead to 3 defective drives in a row. They've got to have some serious issues.
 

sgrinavi

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well id say its a thread crap but looked at newegg reviews and wow they are 70% terrible heheh.. seagate used to be my fav untill the 7200.10 i think.. ;/ now i just hope the wd black drives i buy dont die before backup time.

It wasn't really a thread crap, it was on topic and may have reflected the posters experiences. I have not had issue with seagate drives, i have RMAd WDs and tossed a few Hitachis.

As for Newegg reviews? Meh... Unless they are very specific with regard to issues I tend to ignore them.
 

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Yes, Newegg reviews are reliable because 100% of buyers post a review. Therefore you know exactly how many people receive a defective drive.....

While not necessarily accurate or representative of the actual failure rate, the feedback does give you something to think about. Trend analysis is big business in the corporate world.
 

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i'd like to use an external as a combination of backup and movie storage (bring to friend's house, play movies from external hdd)...any idea what speed i'd need smoothly play hi-def video? got my HD movies encoded as mpeg2-based FLVs.

edit: i looked up some other reviews (AT, cnet, amazon) and all of them mention heat as being an issue. AT measured temps as high as ~160F!!
 
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Just pointing out that reviews need to be taken with a grain of salt. That said, it probably isn't coincidence if a lot of people report failures.

I was going to point out though, at least with a DOA drive you don't have to worry about lost data :p
 

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From another forum:
"Well, the rumblings I've been hearing about seagate's quality going down the tubes appears to be true. Seagate has reduced their warranty period from 5 to 3 years.

Warranties on hard disks are a direct reflection on statistical failure rates, you can totally ignore any happy talk they say that indicates otherwise. Seagate is I assume counting on you not remembering that they increased their warranty period just a few years ago to 5 years, a move that was well warranted due to the quality and reliability of their drives, a level that I'm sad to say they appear now unable to maintain.

And I can confirm first hand this decline in quality, which I'd been hearing about online for the last year, and which I personally experienced 6 months ago when I ordered 2 new seagate drives for a client, and had them both arrive DOA, not just any DOA, but the clicking death doa of a totally dead hard disk.

Reports of seagate removing such comments I can also confirm, when I posted these remarks on the newegg feedback thread, for the first time ever, my comments were never put up. I've never seen that happen before.

So how does this drop and decline in quality happen? Well, obviously, they are doing what all the other vendors are doing: outsourcing to companies that are themselves outsourcing some parts of production elsewhere, thus creating a virtually untraceable chain of problems.

Linksys/Cisco did something very similar, and their routers are now, with the sole exception of the Linux running wrtgl series, essentially a total cr#p shoot when you buy them.

This is part of the ongoing destruction of the US economy, for those not following the more macro view of things. But it's still sad to see a company that was top and center of the very best out there fall into the pit of mediocrity and short term profit taking.

Here's just one new example of this drop in seagate quality.

So what drives should you use? I was told by a guy who had some serious, and expensive hard disk issues re seagate drives, he talked to a top level support guy from seagate, who for some reason was honest with him (probably because he was about to get laid off) when the guy asked what drives he should use to protect his client's data, the support guy said.. not seagate, but... drum roll.... Hitachi.

That's straight from seagate support. And don't expect things to get better, seagate is now laying off large parts of their company.

This now puts seagate on my official do not buy list. Sad, but true. "

I was wondering why Seagate or Maxtor (whom Seagate bought) have never offered an SSD drive.
 

sdifox

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I am off Seagates til the numbers show they are reliable again. I used to buy only Seagates. But problems started cropping up from the 500, 750, 1000gb capacity drives. They just don't have a good handle on perpendicular recording.
 

Samus

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Same here, replaced all my Segaates with WD Black.

Ditto that as well. Every drive I've purchased in the last two years has been a WD Black or WD Green, not a single problem so far.

I'd been using Seagate drives since the days of the wetsuit and the renowned reliability of the 7200.7's. Around the 7200.10 series, something happened, and I started having Seagate drives hickup on me. I never had one completely crash, but I had various issues with them disappearing from the bus, click of deaths, SMART errors, and one was DOA, which has NEVER happened to me before. It was a retail drive as well, which is just ridiculous as they are factory-packed.

I'm still sketchy on Samsung drives because of their past, as I am of Hitachi (although I'll admit I haven't seen a Hitachi drive fail in over 5 years and I work in IT) but for the most part I don't have a reason to stray from WD right now.

I feel bad for what happened to Seagate...they used to make legendary products, and I can't give them enough credit for buying (and disposing of) Maxtor's storage division.
 
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