3DMark05 score is it OK for my hardware?

[drer]

2,377 I used the free version they offer

it's an eMachine T6524 AMD 3500+ 64 1GIG DDR400 ATI x700PCIE...everything else is standard using integrated sound. Maybe I was expecting more >_<

 

[EvilRage]

eMachines < all. I've seen their motherboards fail consistently, and a lot more often than anything else. Get something else if you can.

 

[LionHeart27]

Ya dude, hate to rain on your day but emachines are built for the budget conscious and that's perfectly fine, if your on a tight budget. They are however problematic.

 

[Powermoloch]

it is as expected with that hardware...especially with all the unecessary background programs that was included w/ the purchased pc. Otherwise, it's ok IMO.

 

[drer]

Actually I got rid of all the bloatware on it i like to keep my system free of start up processes and systray icons. so if you take that into consideration

 

[LOUISSSSS]

its the hardware

 

[rise]

sounds about right.

 

[XBoxLPU]

Uninstall any 3dmark program

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
Uninstall any 3dmark program

lol

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: drer
2,377 I used the free version they offer

it's an eMachine T6524 AMD 3500+ 64 1GIG DDR400 ATI x700PCIE...everything else is standard using integrated sound. Maybe I was expecting more >_<

Thats about right...
I previously had an x700, but it was the PRO, with some pretty fast memory. I could come close to 3000 with that card.

 

[Kyanzes]

Is this rig the one with free solitare?

 

[dguy6789]

That is a bit low actually. My 9800 Pro in my Athlon 64 2800 rig would get around 2600 marks. The X700 Pro is usually faster than the 9800 pro.

 

[drer]

Thanks for all the quick responses, I plan on getting a PSU and Soundcard as my next upgrade the included 300watt PSU is being pushed pretty good.

 

[Bobthelost]

If you're buying a new PSU then buy yourself a 350W fortron. If you're planning on ripping the machine apart in the next three years or so you might want to go for 400W, which will cover 99% of non SLI computers. Don't waste your money on anything more than 400W.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
That is a bit low actually. My 9800 Pro in my Athlon 64 2800 rig would get around 2600 marks. The X700 Pro is usually faster than the 9800 pro.

a x700pro is usually slower thna a 9800pro. the x700 has 128bit memory slowing it down.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
Uninstall any 3dmark program

hehe

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: dguy6789
That is a bit low actually. My 9800 Pro in my Athlon 64 2800 rig would get around 2600 marks. The X700 Pro is usually faster than the 9800 pro.

a x700pro is usually slower thna a 9800pro. the x700 has 128bit memory slowing it down.

You are right about it being 128 bit, but you are misinformed on your idea of the speed. X700 Pro is faster than the 9800 Pro in almost all scenarios including aa/af.
You may be wondering why.

You must understand that you cannot say X video card is faster than Y video card because X has 256 bit memory while Y has 128 bit. Video card architecture is so complex today that you cannot even begin to estimate the performance of a card just via the pipes/memory config. Some examples include the 128 bit 6600GT beating the 256 bit 9800 Pro by more than 50% in some scenarios. The 16 pipe X1800XT outpaces the 24 pipe 7800GTX in most tests.


Quake 3 based games are the only ones where a 9800 Pro beats an X700 Pro, but it does not beat it enough to even be able to tell a difference between them. All other tests show that the X700 Pro is faster in all cases.

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/rv410/index.php?p=8

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/3211_3411451__3

http://reviews.pimprig.com/video_cards/...e_hybrid_x700_pro_videocard.php?page=3

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: dguy6789
That is a bit low actually. My 9800 Pro in my Athlon 64 2800 rig would get around 2600 marks. The X700 Pro is usually faster than the 9800 pro.

a x700pro is usually slower thna a 9800pro. the x700 has 128bit memory slowing it down.

You are right about it being 128 bit, but you are misinformed on your idea of the speed. X700 Pro is faster than the 9800 Pro in almost all scenarios including aa/af.
You may be wondering why.

You must understand that you cannot say X video card is faster than Y video card because X has 256 bit memory while Y has 128 bit. Video card architecture is so complex today that you cannot even begin to estimate the performance of a card just via the pipes/memory config. Some examples include the 128 bit 6600GT beating the 256 bit 9800 Pro by more than 50% in some scenarios. The 16 pipe X1800XT outpaces the 24 pipe 7800GTX in most tests.


Quake 3 based games are the only ones where a 9800 Pro beats an X700 Pro, but it does not beat it enough to even be able to tell a difference between them. All other tests show that the X700 Pro is faster in all cases.

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/rv410/index.php?p=8

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/3211_3411451__3

http://reviews.pimprig.com/video_cards/...e_hybrid_x700_pro_videocard.php?page=3

I'm not jsut saying that because of 128 bit ,give me somne credit, im not that stupid.

the results yuo posted i havent seen bvefore but there are some odd results on the web.
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/gecube-rx700-pro/index03.htm
(9800 wins every test but 3dmark03 and ties in hl2 and 3dmark05)

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1708&page=1
somewhat weird. 9800 "loses" but by 1fps(effectively a tie for all intnts and purposes since it is attribitutred to leeway fro slight differences in esting conditions) every time in real games. 9800 starts winnig at higher resolutions though.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/2004-27gpu2_7.html
x700 wins in halo, half life 2(all by by a bit), manhunt somewhat, colin macrae by quite a bit, aquamark somewhat, 3dmark03 and 05 quite a bit and somewhat respectively.
9800r aping in max payne 2 at higher resolutions not cpu bound and splinter cell ct, wins a minor in il:2, when not cpu bound, minorly wins flight sim 2004, somewhat faster in warhammer 40k, wins somewhat well in perimeter, rapes in rome total war(espicalyl at higher resolutions, aa), wins ff11 somewhat.

for those not mentioned, it's a sorta tradingblows, sometimes x700 pulls out with higher resolutions, aa, sometimes 9800pro.

all in all, for the most part it's a crapshoot but the 9800 wins more game tests, espicalyl splinter cell for some reason.

 

[dguy6789]

Well when you "a x700pro is usually slower thna a 9800pro. the x700 has 128bit memory slowing it down." then I am bound to believe that that is the reason for your reasoning. Oh well. Good to know.

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: Kyanzes
Is this rig the one with free solitare?

Dont turn on AA or AF or the cards will flicker.

 

[Madwand1]

3DMark2005 is pretty much a video card benchmark; the rest of your system will typically make very little difference. So if you want better marks there, get a better video card.

This measure correlates well with video card-intensive games such as FEAR.

If you want something more of an overall measurement, try 3DMark2001SE -- this one will weigh your CPU as well as your video card.

This measure correlates well with video + CPU intensive games such as WoW.