3DMark05 & NVIDIA Drivers

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Dang, 3DMark 05 isn't even out yet and people are already bitching. Given the controversy surrounding 3Dmark 03, one would think that FutureMark would take steps to prevent cheating.
 

caz67

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Jan 4, 2004
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Yeah right..Give them a chance to be used first, then judge for yourself..
 

caz67

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Yeah right..Give them a chance to be used first, then judge for yourself..
 

VIAN

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What the fvck, people are forgetting the reason why APIs were invented. F-ing losers. Programs should be programmed to the API, not the individual cards.
 

Insomniak

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This whole "optimization" can of worms has me worried. It appears to be getting worse, not better.
 

gururu

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the same can more than likely be said for ATI. I hope sites use the new optimization disabling commands when running the bench.
 

Gamingphreek

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Thats crap. I reserve judgement until the bench is at least out! Hes just trying to start trouble.

-Kevin
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: gxsaurav
This guy here is claming that 3dMark05 & the drivers provided by 3dMark05 are optimized by NVIDIA & are chating, so 3DMark05 is invalid, however he didn't gave any source for that

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7614


Nice, a "quote" of a quote; good way to confuse information. Here is a thread that "quote" is from:

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/...amp;highlight=3dmark05

All that is being talked about here is the "Application Profiles" list in the drop-down boxes so you can set custom driver settings for individual .exe files. This has nothing to do with cheating and completly unrelated to the application specific "optimizations" nvidia have used such as the shader replacements in 3dmark03.
 

gxsaurav

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oops! sorry, I didn't gave link to Beyond 3D link, but this guy gave his wording that NVIDIA & 3DMark are cheating & working together so that NVIDIA performas better
 

Reliant1

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Sounds like the spinmasters are already hard at work. They should atleast wait until the bench is released it only makes them sound more desperate.

"Shader model 3.0 offers no benefits over SM 2.0!" -Baghdad bob.
 

edmundoab

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really hope futuremark can do something to disable whatever optimization that Both Nvidia and ATi can do.
At least it lets end user know what they are buying and the performance they are getting.
of course its always a factor of the price too.

Cheating just to be #1 for the sake of rank, sigh. But false performance.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: edmundoab
really hope futuremark can do something to disable whatever optimization that Both Nvidia and ATi can do.

Ati doesn't do anything like that; and, due to legal pressure, Futuremark can barely even tell us when Nvidia does.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: edmundoab
really hope futuremark can do something to disable whatever optimization that Both Nvidia and ATi can do.

Ati doesn't do anything like that


ROFLICOPTER!!!1


Well they don't, they did it for 3dmark2001 but then they stoped doing that and they now have a policy not to do it for any synthetic benchmarks.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: gururu
the same can more than likely be said for ATI. I hope sites use the new optimization disabling commands when running the bench.

Proof?

Didnt think so.
 

gururu

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: gururu
the same can more than likely be said for ATI. I hope sites use the new optimization disabling commands when running the bench.

Proof?

Didnt think so.


Proof of what? Life? :light: