3dcool's claim about req. copper spacer for T-bird

labassist

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Has anybody lost a T-bird due to stock h/s & fan usage? 3dcool claims that "If you do not use a Thunderbird Spacer with your Thunderbird, you WILL cause damage to your processor by overheating"--I've built 4 T-bird systems in the last month using standard cooling devices and have had one exhibit heat stress related issues...used a MSI K7T Pro in all but one (an A7V-based unit)
KIM--none have been overclocked..yet.
 

Ulysses

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Well I'm sure they must know better than AMD - right ?

And if they sell you that spacer, then you'll have to use another HSF instead of the stock one - and they certainly wouldn't sell you a HSF you didn't need in the first place, would they ?

 

AMB

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I havn't had any problems using a Tai Sol HSF, temps are around 33-36c, which seams to be good
 

Remnant2

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The spacer doesn't really help your heat dissipation at all -- in fact, AMD claims that it makes it measurably worse, because it reflects heat back into the core instead of transmitting it to the HS.

The only reason for a spacer is so that you don't maul your core trying to get the HS on. Just put the HS on absolutely level, and use a decent quality one (AMD Approved) and you'll be fine.
 

DaddyG

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They are just full of crap trying to make money on something that at best you don't need and at worst will cause damage. If the spacer touches the heatsink, the chances are that it will take pressure off the die, which will toast the chip. The heat does not actually reflect back into the die, as the die is hotter. The heat is not allowed to absorb into the base material of the cpu. AMD has gone so far as to tell HSF makers not to anodize their heatsinks as this also creates a reflective surface. Getting 50watts plus off such a small die needs all the help it can get.