3870 X2 to 9800 GX2 very disappointed

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Actually, its because your CPU generates heat when running crysis. Crysis is a heavy CPU user and it will cause your CPU to run at 100%. The GX2 has the best cooling solution nvidia has used in a while. Only the 8800GT uses a "cooling system" that blows heat back into the case. And even then, its not that big of a deal, just make sure your case is properly ventilated.
You should consider putting some 120mm fans in your case to make the case nice and cool.

You would have probably gotten a better performance boost by upgrading the CPU and keeping your 3870x2.
Anyways, the phenom is a joke. You want phenominal performance, buy a wolfdale or new intel quad. And yes, you will need to replace your motherboard.

The OP indicated a temp increase AFTER "upgrading" to the 9800GX2. FWIW I've run Crysis on my box and it hardly (what I consider) stresses the CPU. CPU temps never go above 50C on any core and utilization never goes above 60%. The same system hits 75C on Linpack. (a true CPU stresser)

The 3870x2 OTOH, throws out heat like a 2kW salon dryer on overdrive. The air coming out the back is HOT. Thank goodness it's directed OUT of the case!

 

[BFG10K]

The GX2 has the best cooling solution nvidia has used in a while. Only the 8800GT uses a "cooling system" that blows heat back into the case.

Actually nVidia?s 9800 GX2 sandwich solution means most of the heat stays inside the case as very little is exhausted. It?s actually a very poor cooling solution compared to ATi?s 3870 X2.

And even then, its not that big of a deal, just make sure your case is properly ventilated.

I have a single 8800 Ultra which exhausts a lot of heat out of my case, plus I have a very good case/cooling setup, but my system still warms up quite a lot during gaming. With a 9800 GX2 dumping pretty much everything into the case it must be an absolute furnace for him.

You should consider putting some 120mm fans in your case to make the case nice and cool.

Unless they exhaust hot air they probably won?t do much since they?ll simply re-circulate hot air.

 

[SlowSpyder]

As soon as I saw the OP's system specs I wondered how long until someone blames the processor for the low performance... and I wasn't disappointed, the very next post.

I'm sure the processor is not the bottleneck as others have pointed out.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
New system-

Q6600
ASUS P5NT-Deluxe
320 GB HDD
Vista Basic
174.53
9800 Gx2
1200 W PSU
4GB ram

Crysis Avg. Rate 27 "Up from 25 fps" at 1600*1200 DX10. I am useing 8X AF as i used befour.
Hurra 2 FPS for the cost of a new M/b and processer.

Thinking of returning the 9800 GX2 as well as the ASUS P5NT and the dam Q6600... Crysis is F**KI*G just playable in this suppose to be high end rig.

The 320 HDD is brand new so the vista install was fresh. Crysis updated to 1.2 patch.

Ohh and another thing ASUS P5NT was locking up because of the Q6600 updated the BIOS not it seems to work fine...Will Install COD4 when i find the dam DVD's and update the result's.

It's probably the drivers or a software issue. You must be doing something wrong.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
New system-

Q6600
ASUS P5NT-Deluxe
320 GB HDD
Vista Basic
174.53
9800 Gx2
1200 W PSU
4GB ram

Crysis Avg. Rate 27 "Up from 25 fps" at 1600*1200 DX10. I am useing 8X AF as i used befour.
Hurra 2 FPS for the cost of a new M/b and processer.

Thinking of returning the 9800 GX2 as well as the ASUS P5NT and the dam Q6600... Crysis is F**KI*G just playable in this suppose to be high end rig.

The 320 HDD is brand new so the vista install was fresh. Crysis updated to 1.2 patch.

Ohh and another thing ASUS P5NT was locking up because of the Q6600 updated the BIOS not it seems to work fine...Will Install COD4 when i find the dam DVD's and update the result's.

I have to admit - spending money like water for 2 extra frames a second strikes me as hysterically funny. If you have enough ca$h just get another 9800GX2, SLI them and you'll probably get the frame rates you want. Heck, since the video card itself probably cost as much as the rest of the new box put together, a second one shouldn't be a big deal. Also, NVidia's business model demands that you continue to support them! :thumbsup:

Based on your current experience, I'd have to conclude that NVidia's latest card is a ripoff. Not that I'd turn one down for eval...

 

[djnsmith7]

I don't think the OP took the time to read through all of these posts, or he wouldn't have responded by telling us he just bought a new CPU & MB.

OP, just about everyone that responded to your thread indicated buying a new CPU & MB wouldn't be necessary. You have some pretty good equipment to work with, you just need to be patient & iron out the driver situation.

Be patient, take your time & read the suggestions presented carefully. There's some very useful information & suggestions listed above in your thread. Good luck.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Why is a 600$ card dumping hot air into cases anyhow?

 

[BFG10K]

Why is a 600$ card dumping hot air into cases anyhow?

http://www.tomshardware.com/20..._gx2_review/page2.html

 

[djnoob]

Honestly I think that what it comes down to is that there is something wrong with is system. People keep trying to dis the gx2 but when you look at all of the test results out, they all show a significant increase in performance when it comes to crysis.

For example:

http://www.tomshardware.com/20...gx2_review/page10.html

Should have the op gotten a performance increase just from changing cards? I would imagine so. The truth of the matter is regardless of how cpu intensive a game may be, often times these high end cards are limited by the cpu.

I'm actualy going to re-install crysis this week and I'll post some benches from using both a single gx2 and dual gx2's once the quad sli drivers come out.

 

[ajaidevsingh]

Originally posted by: djnoob
Honestly I think that what it comes down to is that there is something wrong with is system. People keep trying to dis the gx2 but when you look at all of the test results out, they all show a significant increase in performance when it comes to crysis.

For example:

http://www.tomshardware.com/20...gx2_review/page10.html

Should have the op gotten a performance increase just from changing cards? I would imagine so. The truth of the matter is regardless of how cpu intensive a game may be, often times these high end cards are limited by the cpu.

I'm actualy going to re-install crysis this week and I'll post some benches from using both a single gx2 and dual gx2's once the quad sli drivers come out.

Well the new Q6600 system is playing good with cinebench, cpumark, etc..

The reason why i am getting 27 fps is 8XAF accordig to the XFX support and they said that 27-30 FPS is normal for such a setup.

As for the link they have "decreased shadow details" and also have no AF enabled and another thing according to them when they enable AA they get a "big horizontal bars bug" which i did not get when i enabled AA 4X so that is fixed i would think.

 

[ajaidevsingh]

Originally posted by: djnsmith7
I don't think the OP took the time to read through all of these posts, or he wouldn't have responded by telling us he just bought a new CPU & MB.

OP, just about everyone that responded to your thread indicated buying a new CPU & MB wouldn't be necessary. You have some pretty good equipment to work with, you just need to be patient & iron out the driver situation.

Be patient, take your time & read the suggestions presented carefully. There's some very useful information & suggestions listed above in your thread. Good luck.

Actually, i had read the posts but i was 2 hrs late i had all ready bought the M/B and CPU as even i taught that the cpu may be the bottleneck and LightningRider also pointed this out. The 27FPS is due to 8X AF "XFX support says so".

 

[ajaidevsingh]

Today i am going back to return the M/B and CPU. The 9800 GX2 will be sold in ebay "Cannot return it have opened he black metal case" after 2-3 days.

EDIT: I allmost forgot XFX support told me to buy a "water based cooler system for my computer" for the heat problem. I have 4 120mm system case fans now this is just a big smelly F*RT.

 

[imported_spike99]

The reason why i am getting 27 fps is 8XAF accordig to the XFX support and they said that 27-30 FPS is normal for such a setup.

I recently formatted my PC and Crysis running at High @ 1920x1200 used to give me ~ 24fps and now I'm getting like 12FPS.

Where do you set 8XAF ? Is this a game setting option or is this set in NVIDIA's control panel ?

 

[KBTuning]

all the benchmarks ive seen show the 9800GX2 is actually SLOWER than my 9600GT SLi setup untill you goto 2560xXXXX resolution and im running on a Q6600 with a 780i and 4GB of ram... Crysis Demo ran pretty smooth untill the ice ship thing.... then it got stupid like 2-5 fps

id return all that sutff and go 9600GT SLi if you want an upgrade or just keep the ATi/AMD card untill nVidia releases GT200 or the new ATi/AMD stuff comes out

 

[silentkiller]

hi ajay this is honey singh & i need ur help to buy 9800 gx2 so tell ur id so i can chat wid u

 

[tuteja1986]

CPU :!

Get :
QX6600 and OC it to 3.0Ghz
4GB of DDR2 1066Mhz 5.5.5.12
Intel X38 motherboard or Nvidia 790i ultra

 

[batmang]

OP, get two 9600 GT's or 8800 GT'sand SLi them. BTW, this thread is funny.

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: batmang
BTW, this thread is funny.

Worthy of akshayt and his x1900xtx, back when it was the latest.