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Not just MSI. There's a gigabyte 980 & 980Ti which TPU pegged at over 340W.. so these AIBs custom models have insane modded bios, it may help with OC but on default its awful.

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For the 980, that's an extra 150W above reference models. o_O
 
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casiofx

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Not just MSI. There's a gigabyte 980 & 980Ti which TPU pegged at over 340W.. so these AIBs custom models have insane modded bios, it may help with OC but on default its awful.

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For the 980, that's an extra 150W above reference models. o_O
We should be looking at average power consumption instead of maximum.
Maximum is only good to determine how big the PSU you should have.
 

crisium

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Is Maximum Furmark? Worthless if it is.

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Here's actual gaming. Still power hungry though.
 

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Not just MSI. There's a gigabyte 980 & 980Ti which TPU pegged at over 340W.. so these AIBs custom models have insane modded bios, it may help with OC but on default its awful.

For the 980, that's an extra 150W above reference models. o_O

Is that gigabyte an overclocked model as well?
 

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What about Linux driver support? Anyone tested this? Does amd have any plans to at least attempt drivers for this piece of hardware?
 
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Do you realize what the percentage of people are that buy a 550$ card is?
We live in this Anandtech world where mabe 40% of people pay that much.
In the real world a mid range card for about 250$ is the norm/sweetspot.

So no the answer is not to jump to a $550 card. That's crazy!
If the $550 card performance didn't matter AMD wouldn't be where they are today.

In a year it'll be very interesting, we'll see if people still think AMD is shit. I bet you we'll see good 390 and 390x sales solely because of the Fury X performance.
 
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The short answer is no the 290x isn't really worth the premium. You'd pay 15% more but would get maybe 5% more performance if you compare overclock vs overclock. Even if you don't overclock the difference is still around 5% for 2560x1600 or lower. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290/26.html
idk. it might not be worth the premium but I feel like that extra 15% performance (and it is 15% performance factoring in the 290x overclock and the 290x's 2816 shaders vs 2560) might be what you need to justify the upgrade.
 

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idk. it might not be worth the premium but I feel like that extra 15% performance (and it is 15% performance factoring in the 290x overclock and the 290x's 2816 shaders vs 2560) might be what you need to justify the upgrade.

15% more performance is a fantasy whether stock or OC vs OC, across many games at 2560x1600 or less. Maybe occasionally you will find a game that has a larger delta but overall? No. I just gave you a link about this, to.

There are many bottlenecks to performance so you often do not get a linear increase in performance. Like if you have 100% more shaders that does not mean you get 100% more performance.
 
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15% more performance is a fantasy whether stock or OC vs OC, across many games at 2560x1600 or less. Maybe occasionally you will find a game that has a larger delta but overall? No. I just gave you a link about this, to.

There are many bottlenecks to performance so you often do not get a linear increase in performance. Like if you have 100% more shaders that does not mean you get 100% more performance.

uhhhh no, 2816/2560...15%...4096? and you beat the 980Ti
 
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Then he goes on to give the possibility...
It might also be possible that the variation between Hawaii GPUs is very large and I got an unlucky sample. Let's just not hope that reviewers get low-power-picked cards and the high-power cards end up with customers.
...that reviewers are getting cherry picked cards with no evidence to back this up. First btarunr goes on his rants that sound so much like the typical green team posters and now W1zzard with this. :SMDH:
 

Abwx

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Then he goes on to give the possibility...

...that reviewers are getting cherry picked cards with no evidence to back this up. First btarunr goes on his rants that sound so much like the typical green team posters and now W1zzard with this. :SMDH:

The card doesnt consume enough, what a bad luck....no need to explain why, of course...
 

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The card doesnt consume enough, what a bad luck....no need to explain why, of course...

His response actually sounded a bit defensive. Trying to deflect the discrepancy as AMD might be pulling shens. Not liking what I'm reading @ TPU lately???
 

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His response actually sounded a bit defensive. Trying to deflect the discrepancy as AMD might be pulling shens. Not liking what I'm reading @ TPU lately???

That sound rather trollish, i quote this guy sentences :


It might also be possible that the variation between Hawaii GPUs is very large and I got an unlucky sample.

Why unlucky.?.

Generaly reviewers complain when they have a sample that ock badly or consume too much, here the guy say that he would had prefered something not as good, that would had been luck...

Let's just not hope that reviewers get low-power-picked cards and the high-power cards end up with customers.

He imply that this lack of luck could be AMD s fault, that is, they deprived him, and others, from cards that would have showed some "expected" results rather than those "unexpected" results, but consumers, be warned , thoses results are possibly wrong and you ll end with cards that have the results we "expected"...

To summarize they are incapable to do a review and take their own numbers for what they are, they are saying that they are skeptical of their own measurements due to some AMD possible manipulation..
 
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Did Wizzard and TPU mention these things when the custom 980 and 980Ti drew heaps more power?

It seems here that MSI has gone with a custom bios which much higher TDP. Since there's no "Reference 300 series", the comparison is to each different brand.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Got the card (thanks Amex for the free shop runner account). Overclocks pretty easily. Runs everything more than fast enough than I'll ever need with this 1920x1200 monitor.

Netflix looks more HD than ever ;)