*380/390/390x reviews **12 reviews listed all in one spot***.

[happy medium]

The AMD and Nvidia graphics sub-forums are intended primarily for members who are owners of the respective hardware to seek out and offer peer level technical support, compare and contrast performance and results with other owners, discuss driver updates and installation issues, firmware/cooling modifications, etc.

Since mabe 2 people own this hardware.............

I'm gonna put the AMD 390x reviews here in general video.
If you find reviews post em and I'll throw them on the list.

Anandtech preview
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9387/amd-radeon-300-series/3

[Overclock3D.net] AMD 390X review
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_review/1


[Guru3d] MSI 390X Gaming 8G OC review
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-r9-390x-gaming-8g-oc-review,1.html
they also have a 370 review
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-radeon-r7-370-strix-review,1.html

Hardware Canucks
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...69646-amd-r9-390x-8gb-performance-review.html

Hardware.info (needs translation to English)
370/380/and 390
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/613...90x-review-nieuwe-line-up-met-bestaande-chips

Techspot 380/390/and 390x review.
http://www.techspot.com/review/1019-radeon-r9-390x-390-380/

Tomshardware 370/380/390x tested
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178.html

Legion Hardware
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/his_iceq_xsup2_oc_radeon_r9_390xr9_390_r9_380,1.html

Hardware Heaven, just a 380 review.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/conte...amd-radeon-r9-380-review-msi-r9-380-gaming-2g

Hard/OCP
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/18/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_video_card_review/#.VYNCA-lRFjo

Legit reviews
http://www.legitreviews.com/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8gb-nitro-r9-380-4gb-video-card-review_166123/4

Pure PC
http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzne/premierowy_test_amd_radeon_r9_390x_vs_geforce_gtx_980?page=0,5

PC perspective
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Nitro-Radeon-R9-390-8GB-Review

 

[PrincessFrosty]

I just flicked through the benchmarks section of the Guru3d article, basically an OCed card struggling to keep up with a stock the 980 across benchmarks, ouch. Not even pulling back a lead in 4k which is what I'm interested in.

Overclockersc.o.uk has both that and the MSI gaming 980 in stock (what I currently have) and the 980 is only £40 more expensive.

Anyone running high end Nvidias card right now I think would be insane to do anything other than put a 2nd video card in for SLI, to help bump my already great 4k experience into overdrive and make it a bit more future proof I'll simply be adding another 980, AMDs offering is a sadly disappointing, at least for my particular circumstance.

 

[Zstream]

I just flicked through the benchmarks section of the Guru3d article, basically an OCed card struggling to keep up with a stock the 980 across benchmarks, ouch. Not even pulling back a lead in 4k which is what I'm interested in.

Overclockersc.o.uk has both that and the MSI gaming 980 in stock (what I currently have) and the 980 is only £40 more expensive.

Anyone running high end Nvidias card right now I think would be insane to do anything other than put a 2nd video card in for SLI, to help bump my already great 4k experience into overdrive and make it a bit more future proof I'll simply be adding another 980, AMDs offering is a sadly disappointing, at least for my particular circumstance.

Are we looking at the same thing? I'm not in the market for this card but I came away with a different thought process all together.

 

[thilanliyan]

These cards are kinda meh. For someone with a 290/290X already it isn't that interesting.

 

[Azix]

I really wish that oc3d site would sort out their look. Hurts my feelings.

A lot of the reviews will be using older numbers for a lot of the cards. I just realized this and it means things aren't quite as clear as they should be. Won't know where things stand till some new games come out and they have to do new benchmarks.

I think this might be partly what happened with the 970 launch.

 

[piesquared]

I just flicked through the benchmarks section of the Guru3d article, basically an OCed card struggling to keep up with a stock the 980 across benchmarks, ouch. Not even pulling back a lead in 4k which is what I'm interested in.

Overclockersc.o.uk has both that and the MSI gaming 980 in stock (what I currently have) and the 980 is only £40 more expensive.

Anyone running high end Nvidias card right now I think would be insane to do anything other than put a 2nd video card in for SLI, to help bump my already great 4k experience into overdrive and make it a bit more future proof I'll simply be adding another 980, AMDs offering is a sadly disappointing, at least for my particular circumstance.

Are you sure? According to the NV propagandists, 4GB is not enough for 4K so obviously SLiing 2 4GB cards is a bad idea. Has this narrative changed now? Hard to keep up with the constant moving goal posts around here...

 

[Keysplayr]

Are you sure? According to the NV propagandists, 4GB is not enough for 4K so obviously SLiing 2 4GB cards is a bad idea. Has this narrative changed now? Hard to keep up with the constant moving goal posts around here...

390X is in kind of a hard place. On one hand, as you hint at, 4GB may or may not be enough for all 4K gaming. On the other hand, 390X isn't really strong enough to utilize 8GB, according to some. I'm really not sure if it can or can't.
I think those that are saying 4GB is not enough are probably referring to the upcoming flagship fury have 4GB. Doesn't look to hot when your flagship has less memory than the second tier old card does.

 

[Abwx]

You can add this one :

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/...80-r7-370-test/3/#abschnitt_leistungsaufnahme

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Are we looking at the same thing? I'm not in the market for this card but I came away with a different thought process all together.

I dunno are we?

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,13.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-288-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=3059 £349.99
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-258-MS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1812 £389.99

These are both MSI Gaming/OC cards and not the stock GTX980 which is used in the benchmarks which means that particular 980 is going to be performing somewhat better than in the benchmarks.

Are you sure? According to the NV propagandists, 4GB is not enough for 4K so obviously SLiing 2 4GB cards is a bad idea. Has this narrative changed now? Hard to keep up with the constant moving goal posts around here...

I don't know, it's not one coordinated group of propagandists but a disparate group of people all with subtly different points of view. We're not one amorphous blob whose different opinions can be used as self-contradictions.

All I know is that I have a 4k monitor now, an MSI GTX980 gaming edition, I play GPU intensive games like GTAV in 4k in mostly very high settings, there's no indication it's video memory constrained, going from my 2560x1600 panel to 4k all I did was drop 2xMSAA from about 60-70fps down to 45-55fps.

At 4k you're primarily GPU starved you need serious horsepower to push that number of pixels, maybe if you're after something stupid like 8xMSAA at 4k then I see no reason to be above 4Gb right now. The benchmarks really drive that point home the frame rates are about the same in a lot of games yet the 390X doesn't have any appreciable lead in 4k, the 8Gb of RAM isn't helping.

I'm just saying that personally for people like me (of which there is many because Nvidia has something like a 75% market share for gamers) there's no high end AMD solution that's attractive when you factor in Nvidia SLI being cheaper due to already being invested in one of the cards.

I could buy a 390X for that price and swap my 980 and be no better off, or buy 2 of them for £700 but why do that when another single GTX980 costs me £390? And that's brand new, odds are I'll hit ebay in the next 2-3 months and simply pick up a barely used 980 for 1/2 price.

 

[bryanW1995]

The AMD and Nvidia graphics sub-forums are intended primarily for members who are owners of the respective hardware to seek out and offer peer level technical support, compare and contrast performance and results with other owners, discuss driver updates and installation issues, firmware/cooling modifications, etc.

Since mabe 2 people own this hardware.............

I'm gonna put the AMD 390x reviews here in general video.
If you find reviews post em and I'll throw them on the list.

[Overclock3D.net] AMD 390X review
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_review/1


[Guru3d] MSI 390X Gaming 8G OC review
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-r9-390x-gaming-8g-oc-review,1.html

Hardware Canucks
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...69646-amd-r9-390x-8gb-performance-review.html

And, more importantly, here we can speculate, criticize, cajole, joke, and generally have a good time. This forum is the appropriate area for 95% of video card discussions that I've seen in VC&G over the years.

 

[Silverforce11]

Anyone running high end Nvidias card right now I think would be insane to do anything other than put a 2nd video card in for SLI, to help bump my already great 4k experience into overdrive and make it a bit more future proof I'll simply be adding another 980, AMDs offering is a sadly disappointing, at least for my particular circumstance.

What exactly were you expecting, to upgrade from a 980 to a 390X class? Seriously what gave you that idea?

980Ti or Fury X is your upgrade, or go SLI.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1019-radeon-r9-390x-390-380/

Across multiple reviews,
Basically R290/X +10% performance across the board, with 8GB vram. It trades blows with the 980 for less. The 390 is faster than 970 for similar $.

Old AMD tech still going strong. lol

Looks a lot better than the hot & noisy R290X.

The best games of recent times:

 

[bryanW1995]

I dunno are we?

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,13.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-288-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=3059 £349.99
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-258-MS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1812 £389.99

These are both MSI Gaming/OC cards and not the stock GTX980 which is used in the benchmarks which means that particular 980 is going to be performing somewhat better than in the benchmarks.



I don't know, it's no one coordinated group of propagandists but a disparate group of people all with subtly different points of view. We're not one amorphous blob whose different opinions can be used as self-contradictions.

All I know is that I have a 4k monitor now, an MSI GTX980 gaming edition, I play GPU intensive games like GTAV in 4k in mostly very high settings, there's no indication it's video memory constrained, going from my 2560x1600 panel to 4k all I did was drop 2xMSAA from about 60-70fps down to 45-55fps.

At 4k you're primarily GPU starved you need serious horsepower to push that number of pixels, maybe if you're after something stupid like 8xMSAA at 4k then I see no reason to be above 4Gb right now. The benchmarks really drive that point home the frame rates are about the same in a lot of games yet the 390X doesn't have any appreciable lead in 4k, the 8Gb of RAM isn't helping.

I'm just saying that personally for people like me (of which there is many because Nvidia has something like a 75% market share for gamers) there's no high end AMD solution that's attractive when you factor in Nvidia SLI being cheaper due to already being invested in one of the cards.

I could buy a 390X for that price and swap my 980 and be no better off, or buy 2 of them for £700 but why do that when another single GTX980 costs me £390? And that's brand new, odds are I'll hit ebay in the next 2-3 months and simply pick up a barely used 980 for 1/2 price.

In your situation I would absolutely NOT get a 2nd 980, at least not yet. 390x is going to exert pricing pressure on 980, as it has similar performance for a lower price. So, one option for you would be to wait a month or so and then pounce on a 980 for 50£ less. Another option would be for you to sell your 980 now while the price is still high and get a 980ti today or Fury X in a week.

It does seem odd that you would have looked at 390/x reviews hoping for something significantly better than your 980 though...what did you expect? AMD is already releasing 3 cards in the coming weeks that will be faster.

I fixed that image tag for you, Silverforce:

wow, I didn't realize how close 390/970 and 390x/980 were in power consumption.

AMD marketing could be the worst division of any company in the known universe.

 

[tential]

Well, why don't you ask the members here? Does a 4GB flagship look good compared to a 2nd old tier 8GB?
There isn't any propaganda to be had here. Fury really will have 4GB and 390X really does have 8GB.
And you could tone down the propagandist rhetoric, there really is no need.

It's a simple question
Is 4gb enough? If it's not enough for 4k then gtx 980 sli is useless and 390x is clearly a better choice for a person with no gpu wanting the best options and flexibility.

If it is enough, then the 390x is not that great of a choice, but the fury and gtx 980 are decent options.

But I doubt you'll directly answer this and instead dance around the question.

 

[DSey]

http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/613...90x-review-nieuwe-line-up-met-bestaande-chips

 

[PrincessFrosty]

In your situation I would absolutely NOT get a 2nd 980, at least not yet. 390x is going to exert pricing pressure on 980, as it has similar performance for a lower price. So, one option for you would be to wait a month or so and then pounce on a 980 for 50£ less. Another option would be for you to sell your 980 now while the price is still high and get a 980ti today or Fury X in a week.

It does seem odd that you would have looked at 390/x reviews hoping for something significantly better than your 980 though...what did you expect? AMD is already releasing 3 cards in the coming weeks that will be faster.

Yeah that's my plan, I have no immediate need to upgrade because quite frankly my 980 at stock (stock OC) speeds has been providing excellent gaming in 4k, maybe there will be a few new games down the line that really push that, the most demanding game I have right now is GTAV and there's no need for a 2nd card yet.

I'll likely go 2nd hand when I do anyway, that's what I did with my GTX580's get the first brand new and then the 2nd futher down the line when there's a flood of people dropping their high end cards for the few additional FPS of the next offering. Pressure from AMD bring price drops to Nvidia products is great for Nvidia users quite frankly.

I don't know much about the AMD roadmap I looked because I was interested, I've read about Fury on the way, I don't think that's in a better position. I'm basically a high end user looking for decent setups but I'm also careful with my money, I'm the kind of person would would buy a 980 but never go anywhere near the additional price of a Titan/TitanX, there's common sense even at the high end.

It's a simple question
Is 4gb enough? If it's not enough for 4k then gtx 980 sli is useless and 390x is clearly a better choice for a person with no gpu wanting the best options and flexibility.

If it is enough, then the 390x is not that great of a choice, but the fury and gtx 980 are decent options.

But I doubt you'll directly answer this and instead dance around the question.

I have an excellent experience at 4k already with just a single 4Gb card, and everything about the benchmarks I've seen suggests that 4Gb isn't a limiting factor in current gen high end games like GTAV. Will it be in the future? Yes at some point memory always becomes obsolete but no one can easily speculate when that will be.

However it's not fair to demand a simple answer because it depends on your exact expectations, some people are great at finding fringe cases where game X at 4k with 8xMSAA will require a bit more than 4Gb, I personally prefer to come from a position of being moderate about my decisions and fringe cases do not make convincing arguments.

Keep in mind how many people are coming from a position of having no GPU wanting to invest in purely new solutions, I don't think that's a typical use case.

 

[bryanW1995]

Ugh, TPU released a review today...of a 980ti...Really? Like we need another 980ti review??

 

[komatta]

Ugh, TPU released a review today...of a 980ti...Really? Like we need another 980ti review??

Why not? It's of an aftermarket board, not the reference...

 

[swilli89]

So the 390x provides the exact same gaming experience as a 980 for $100 less. Ok.

 

[piesquared]

http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/613...90x-review-nieuwe-line-up-met-bestaande-chips

Wow, if the 390X is just a rebrand then I'm Rumpelstiltskin. Substantial improvements across all games.

 

[.vodka]

Refresh, like 680->770. Not rebrand.

Two very different things.

 

[piesquared]

Refresh, like 680->770. Not rebrand.

Two very different things.

Agreed. The rebrand moniker has no legs.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

So the 390x provides the exact same gaming experience as a 980 for $100 less. Ok.

Except that in reviews of the MSI Gaming/OC edition of the card loses to a stock 980 in most benchmarks. In the UK we have stock 980's on sale for the same price as the MSI 390X in that review.

 

[happy medium]

Added more reviews to OP, thanks

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Wow, if the 390X is just a rebrand then I'm Rumpelstiltskin. Substantial improvements across all games.

Apart from than one (which benefits from the 8GB vram) it's nothing an aftermarket 290x already does, at a lower price.

They're not testing the "390X", but the msi gaming OC 390X.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Of course the usuals come in to outright threadcrap and toss out non-sequiters instead of acknowledging where the card really stands.

Doesn't this get old for you guys, year after year of trying to justify your purchases or rampant fanaticism? It has to be that or some of you are on payrolls. There's no way someone does this for this long, always being up to the minute on new hardware.