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390 vanilla seems like the winner here.

Slightly faster or = to a 970 ,consumes like 20 more watts, has the 8gb of vram for crossfire at higher res., and low operating temps ,4c more than the 970 at load.
Whats the price on this card gonna be?

Edit: 329$? well that's not so good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874
At 279.99 its a buy!

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boozzer

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if it isn't a rebrand, but a tweak, it could sell very well. 1 fps less than 980 and cost 100-150$ less? hell yea.
 
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Hitman928

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Results from HWC compiled:

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See post below.

These are in percentages, 390x is baseline. I'll do others if I have time. Looks like more than a rebrand. It has double the VRAM plus ~10% performance increase even in non-VRAM limitted benches, but uses the same power.
 
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swilli89

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Except that in reviews of the MSI Gaming/OC edition of the card loses to a stock 980 in most benchmarks. In the UK we have stock 980's on sale for the same price as the MSI 390X in that review.
If a card lost by 1 FPS in every single benchmark I would not declare one better than the other. Can anyone tell the difference between 47 FPS and 49 FPS? The answer is no.
 

Borealis7

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Can anyone tell the difference between 47 FPS and 49 FPS? The answer is no.
we have a huge thread fighting over noticing FPS differences :D

on topic, GTX980-like performance from a 290X is nice, and it doesn't run at 95C. i'm just not sure about pricing.
 

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If a card lost by 1 FPS in every single benchmark I would not declare one better than the other. Can anyone tell the difference between 47 FPS and 49 FPS? The answer is no.

If the cards are that close and price is equal , I usually goto, warrantee, temps, power usage, vendor support, free shipping, what specific games it plays faster that I play.:thumbsup: and make a decision.
 

Hitman928

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Updated chart from before, forgot titles. Also included pie chart. If a card won averages but lost minimums, I counted it as a tie.

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Lifer
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if it isn't a rebrand, but a tweak, it could sell very well. 1 fps less than 980 and cost 100-150$ less? hell yea.

lowest price 390x on Newegg = 430$ shipped
the gtx980's lowest price is 489$ or 479$ AR + free Batman game + 4$ shipping = 485$ shipped + free Batman game.

485 shipped gtx980
430$ shipped 390x

= gtx980 cost 55$ more but you get a game free.
That's fairly close.

Gtx 970 at Amazon for 300$ or 280$AR vs the x390 @ 329$
That's almost a tossup too.
 
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Updated chart from before, forgot titles. Also included pie chart. If a card won averages but lost minimums, I counted it as a tie.

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That's good work, let me know if/when its complete and if its ok I'll put it in the OP.:thumbsup:
 

tential

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If the cards are that close and price is equal , I usually goto, warrantee, temps, power usage, vendor support, free shipping, what specific games it plays faster that I play. and make a decision.
A person like me with an old card I don't see how you pick the gtx 980. It's more cash less vram and everything else is pretty much equal or a very little nonfactor.

For a person already with a new card I'm not sure why they're upset that a card priced against the current card they have isn't substantially faster. Did you expect the 390x to thrash the gtx 980 whole being substantially cheaper? That doesn't even make sense.....
 

AnandThenMan

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AMD marketing could be the worst division of any company in the known universe.
I think this statement is something ever single person on this forum can agree on. All of us. And that is damn near impossible on this forum. :p

I have to say, the coolers these AIBs have gone with are incredible, wow.
 

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Lifer
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A person like me with an old card I don't see how you pick the gtx 980.

unless they drop the price about 50$ or make it 2 free good games or something , your right, its dam close performance wise.

I'd like to see overclocked vs overclocked though, that would be interesting.
And then see temps, noise, power consumption , and performance with the 390x vs gtx980.

If anyone comes across this let me know please.
 
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Lifer
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I think this statement is something ever single person on this forum can agree on. All of us. And that is damn near impossible on this forum.

Amen! :) But know what I've noticed over the years?

When performance/price/noise and power are close between Nvidia and AMD, there is much less bickering. Its when one company has an advantage like Maxwell had on the 290 series, that's when things heat up.
 
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Hitman928

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Hardware.info results. They didn't test 1440p for every game which was weird but I used the 1440p results except when unavailable, and then I used 4k results. Results are highest quality tested unless otherwise noted.

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(1) 1440p Very High (2) 4k Normal (3) 1440p Medium (4) 1440p Ultra


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=Hitman928,
Is there a way to take a couple of review sites data and put them in one graph/pie? That would be cool. but then again a lot of work.
 

boozzer

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lowest price 390x on Newegg = 430$ shipped
the gtx980's lowest price is 489$ or 479$ AR + free Batman game + 4$ shipping = 485$ shipped + free Batman game.

485 shipped gtx980
430$ shipped 390x

= gtx980 cost 55$ more but you get a game free.
That's fairly close.

Gtx 970 at Amazon for 300$ or 280$AR vs the x390 @ 329$
That's almost a tossup too.
woah the prices of 980 has gone down that much? I stand corrected than. the game only matters for the people wanting that game. and game codes never sell for the full value. witcher 3 codes were going for 20 to 30$.

this is another in your face from amd to the rebrand pushers :cool:

even if it is the same price, but 390x gets 100% more vram :) all of a sudden, vram don't matter for the very same people who pushed the 6gb or bust crowd.
 
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Flapdrol1337

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The msi gaming 390x is nice though, it's pretty much a 290X lightning, but 8GB and 2 big fans instead of 3 slightly smaller ones.
 

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Just shows how much market perception damage the reference cooler did to the 290 series. Also how the majority of tech sites let readers down by not properly relaying the performance and value proposition of custom AIB 290s.
 

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Lifer
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vram don't matter for the very same people who pushed the 6gb or bust crowd.

The speed of the gtx980 and 390x in terms of pure gpu power are not really enough to push 4k gaming anyway , so the 4gb argument is mute for these gpu's unless you have 3 of them.

But I still think Fury and 980ti class gpu's need more than 4gb but a Fury review could stand me corrected.
 

boozzer

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What exactly were you expecting, to upgrade from a 980 to a 390X class? Seriously what gave you that idea?

980Ti or Fury X is your upgrade, or go SLI.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1019-radeon-r9-390x-390-380/

Across multiple reviews,
Basically R290/X +10% performance across the board, with 8GB vram. It trades blows with the 980 for less. The 390 is faster than 970 for similar $.

Old AMD tech still going strong. lol

Looks a lot better than the hot & noisy R290X.

The best games of recent times:
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damn, this screams in your face to some of the forum posters. this is almost pulling a maxwell over the maxwell ;)
 

bryanW1995

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If a card lost by 1 FPS in every single benchmark I would not declare one better than the other. Can anyone tell the difference between 47 FPS and 49 FPS? The answer is no.

You must have gone to my elementary school... 49-47 = 2. :) And 49/47 = 4.26%, a not-insignificant amount these days when we are splitting hairs between video cards. Certainly, that doesn't justify the huge price premium of 980 over 390x, but NV can adjust that quite easily if necessary. And, hopefully for those of us who are color blind, it WILL BE necessary.

lowest price 390x on Newegg = 430$ shipped
the gtx980's lowest price is 489$ or 479$ AR + free Batman game + 4$ shipping = 485$ shipped + free Batman game.

485 shipped gtx980
430$ shipped 390x

= gtx980 cost 55$ more but you get a game free.
That's fairly close.

Gtx 970 at Amazon for 300$ or 280$AR vs the x390 @ 329$
That's almost a tossup too.

Dangit...

Now we get to wait to see which team, if either, blinks first. Who would have thought that people would regret holding off on 290/290x deals last week?
 
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IEC

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You must have gone to my elementary school... 49-47 = 2. :) And 49/47 = 4.26%, a not-insignificant amount these days when we are splitting hairs between video cards. Certainly, that doesn't justify the huge price premium of 980 over 390x, but NV can adjust that quite easily if necessary. And, hopefully for those of us who are color blind, it WILL BE necessary.

It looks like there will be good competition at a majority of price points now. Which will be good for ALL of us.

Except for that one guy who doesn't think competition is good... :D
 

bryanW1995

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=Hitman928,
Is there a way to take a couple of review sites data and put them in one graph/pie? That would be cool. but then again a lot of work.

I might be able to do something later, don't have any more time right now.

Techpowerup usually has those handy charts...are they always late with their reviews? Freaking w1zzard, you'd think he was busy running a massive web site instead of catering to us gpu fanatics...

Maybe they actually go out and buy their cards retail instead of taking tweaked samples shipped directly from the manufacturers.

It looks like there will be good competition at a majority of price points now. Which will be good for ALL of us.

Except for that one guy who doesn't think competition is good... :D

The problem is what happymedium just linked: 980 is (correctly) a few $$ more expensive than 390x, and 970 is (correctly) a few $$ less than base 390. Somebody is going to have to make a move, the current price step is pretty close to what it should be now that 290/290x are disappearing from the wild.
 
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Zstream

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You must have gone to my elementary school... 49-47 = 2. :) And 49/47 = 4.26%, a not-insignificant amount these days when we are splitting hairs between video cards. Certainly, that doesn't justify the huge price premium of 980 over 390x, but NV can adjust that quite easily if necessary. And, hopefully for those of us who are color blind, it WILL BE necessary.



Dangit...

Now we get to wait to see which team, if either, blinks first. Who would have thought that people would regret holding off on 290/290x deals last week?

Yeah, but most people don't have the CPU power to push these cards to the max anyways. I have an i5 2400, 1080p monitor, and plan to get a fury card.