3770k Over 4770K...or still too early to know?

[Nick63]

Looking to upgrade from x9650 Quad to a new system. I figured OC ability and other improvements would make 4770k better than 3770k, but that does not appear to be the case and since future bios and tweaks for 4770k may net little improvement in the future it seems the 3770k may actually OC to give a little better overall performance. Are there any really good reasons to go 4770k over 3770k, or should I just go 3770k?

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 4770K is faster clock for clock, OCs roughly the same, got AVX2, 256bit paths for AVX/AVX2/FMA execution at full speed. The 8 series platform is better and more updated as well with 6 SATA6 ports and 6 USB3.

An extreme example with Linpack. The stock 3770K would give around 100gflops. And the stock 4770K around 170gflops.

 

[Nick63]

The additional ports are nice and does make the platform a bit more appealing. It appears Haswell motherboards will not accommodate Broadwell processors, is that correct?

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Newer platform, better performance (assuming ASUS' data is correct and a 4.4-4.5GHz typical OC without insane cooling is achievable).

At that speed, it's pretty much an improved 4.85GHz IVB or 5GHz SB.

 

[Sable]

If you're going for a completely new system there's no reason not to go 4770k. Plus if you go with 3770k you're stuck with socket 1155 and nowhere to go. At least with socket 1150 there's the option of future processors.

 

[Nick63]

I don't want to spend more than $325 on a motherboard, but do want really nice bios interface and OC tweaking with stability. Anyone have any good feel for which new Haswell board or boards to consider?

 

[Torn Mind]

3770K is better if you don't want any unexpected issues that come with brand new releases. You also spend less for the parts than you would for the 4770K. If you can wait a month or two, perhaps the prices will have come down and the reviews of Haswell mobos will start trickling in, thereby giving folks information about potential issues that might matter.

 

[Nick63]

Sable, which future processors do you mean for Haswell?

 

[willomz]

The additional ports are nice and does make the platform a bit more appealing. It appears Haswell motherboards will not accommodate Broadwell processors, is that correct?

Broadwell will be socket 1150.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The additional ports are nice and does make the platform a bit more appealing. It appears Haswell motherboards will not accommodate Broadwell processors, is that correct?

I dont see why they wouldnt fit Broadwell. 9 series chipset is also announced.

 

[Idontcare]

Now that haswell has launched there is no good reason to buy Ivy Bridge IMO unless you absolutely need to have the rig up and running in less than a week and you don't like the current supply-limited options for mobos.

Its the same with cars, only with rare exception does one find themselves pursuing a purchase of last year's model rather than the most recent model out on the showroom floor.

If you find yourself in that demographic then don't waste your cash buying new, hit the "well used and slightly abused" discount isle and get yourself a used chip at a steep discount.

 

[Nick63]

Waiting a few weeks to let the motherboards shakeout to see which is best for me seems to be the way to go and so Haswell will be the one unless Gremlins show.

 

[Sable]

As said above, broadwell should fit in socket 1150. Intel would have to be complete money grubbing scum to release a socket for just 1 line of processors. Wait a sec...

 

[Nick63]

My thoughts on needing a new socket fit "Wait a sec" Sable.

 

[Blades]

I'll let you know, After my experience with i7-3770K versus i5-2500k.. I'm going to go with the i5-45whajamacallait instead. Going with i7 was akin to having scrambled dinosaur eggs for breakfast.. AND lunch.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

If you find yourself in that demographic then don't waste your cash buying new, hit the "well used and slightly abused" discount isle and get yourself a used chip at a steep discount.

So, given that your chip has posed nude on the AT forums multiple times, how much of a discount?

On a related note, this seems to be the most comprehensive mobo roundup so far :
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4444/33-haswell-motherboard-group-test-26x-z87-4x-h87-and-3x-b85

Looks like my mind is pretty much made up on the MSI Z87-GD65. Might have something to do with the fact that it is the only mobo on my shortlist (Z87-GD65, Z87-Extreme6, Z87-UD5H) that's available for purchase today