36GB Raptor VS SCSI setup

[intogamer]

I would like to have a separate hdd so I can keep my OS(s) separate. I junk up really quick. I change parts a lot so yeah..

Is it worth it to sell my 36GB Raptor and subsidize it with a SCSI setup?

I figure SCSI is a good way to go because it frees up an SATA port.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: intogamer
I would like to have a separate hdd so I can keep my OS(s) separate. I junk up really quick. I change parts a lot so yeah..

Is it worth it to sell my 36GB Raptor and subsidize it with a SCSI setup?

I figure SCSI is a good way to go because it frees up an SATA port.

* SCSI requires a controller card that adds more $$ to a final "SCSI setup".
* If you need more SATA ports, you can always buy a good SATA/PCI card for less than $50.
* You get much more bang for your storage dollar simply adding a 500GB HD.
* No, it's not worth it to sell your "36GB Raptor and subsidize it with a SCSI setup".

 

[intogamer]

I'm talking about a small OS drive... just like the 36GB. I don't need a full scale setup.

I don't mind old SCSI server pulls.

 

[Blain]

How much is the "old SCSI" HD pull?
How much is a SCSI controller for it?

 

[intogamer]

SCSI Package
U160 Perc3 Dual Controller with 128mb ram and battery backup
36gb U320 10krpm 80pin drive
2ea 18gb U160 10krpm 80pin drives
Scsi cable and 80pin adapters
asking $75 shipped

Someonthing i pulled of FS?T

 

[wwswimming]

in 2003, i had an Adaptec 29160 PCI-x card on a Tyan 2.4 GHz
motherboard. with a 36 GB U-160 Maxtor or Quantum, and
also a 100 GB WestDig PATA (2 MB cache) and a 120 GB Seagate
PATA (8 MB cache). with Windows 2000.

by comparison, 2 x 160 GB PATA drives in a Shuttle with a
3.06 P4 had markedly faster transfer rates. i was very surprised,
i had been carrying a torch for SCSI for a long time.

i also have a 120 GB SATA Seagate on a P4C, another computer
in the closet. faster than disk transfers on the Shuttle system.

in a backup system, i have a 74 GB Raptor SATA. love it.
that system has a dual core Opteron.

on my main system, i have a 320 GB Seagate SATA. it's
fast, also. maybe i just like the sound of the Raptors.

it is possible that i'm doing something wrong with the
SCSI drive, that some defrag-ing is in order, etc.

. . .

Is it worth it to sell my 36GB Raptor and subsidize it with a SCSI setup?

. . .

you get some SCSI experience with the SCSI, nothing wrong with
hands-on education.

if you really want it to be faster, you might need to go for the 15K
SCSI drive.

 

[SludgeFactory]

I can't comment on Raptor, but I just installed my little low-budget SCSI solution and it seems pretty snappy so far. Noticeably faster with XP than a 400 gig Seagate 7200.10. I haven't gotten around to doing anything demanding with it yet though.

It can be done on the cheap. I was able to luck onto a sealed retail 29160 for a little over $30 shipped on Ebay, and then also picked up an OEM Fujitsu 15K MAU3036NC from Ebay. Added in a generic 80 pin adapter and it all worked right out of the box.

If you do it, I would probably recommend 15K too.

 

[0roo0roo]

if you are niggling over money, forget scsi

 

[thorin]

Too bad Serial Attached SCSI hasn't become a reality yet.

 

[bob4432]

have patience and go the 15k fujitsu mau or mas scsi setup - use a adatpec 19160/29160/39160 or a lsiu160 card, get the fujitsu hdd when a deal comes up - and they will and then a u320 cable w/ adapter.

so many people complain that a small setup like you want is crazy expensive, but i would save $20-$30 for the card, $10-$15 for the cable/terminator and a 36GB hdd ~$50 or so (this is the part when you may have to wait for a deal) - also, don't worry to much about using a refurbed scsi hdd - they are built for true enterprise computing - 24/7/365 x many years, so even a refurb is fine imho.

i have been running scsi for many years, current setup is a fujitsu mas 36GB and a seagate 15k.5 300GB unit running on a lsiu160 card - runs excellent. i have used quite a few different brands and the fujitsu drives seem to be the best firmware wise for a desktop enviornment, w/ my setup the 15k.5 has a superior str but the fujitsu feels better for desktop activities.

scsi can be done for relatively lower $$$$ contrary to a lot of people's throughts - remember you are going to be putting the card in a 32bit pci slot (more than likely) which has a max bandwidth of ~133MB/s, so no reason to go the u320 card as a u160 will saturate your pic bandwidth. the hdds, going w/ the 320 usually just means the drive is newer so there is no issue mixing a u160 card w/ u320 drives.

hope this helps you out,
bob