3400+ amd 64bit and asus a8v deluxe mobo... good match?

[liljoker]

installed my computers a week ago.
3400+ AMD 64 Newcastle core. 939 sockets
a8v deluxe asus mobo

i bought them combo from tiger direct. i got problems, in which the computer wont even boot, but i managed to fix it by flashing the bios and got it to work.

now, the computer reboots randomly and after it restarted, there's a pop up saying that the computer just recovered from a serious error.

the times i remembered when it reboots is when i cancelled antivirus scan, when i changed my computer's name in system property.

in power option, i set it so that it won't go to standby on any occasion.

CPU temp is 30 C.

one more thing. i can only get the computer to work if i set the HT speed at 200MHz and the overclock speed at standart. if i change it to any higher, the computer will just go to standby mode everytime i start the computer

is it just me or is this a really weird problem?
please help me solve this problem.

i swapped all my comp parts to my old computer and everything works perfectly, except for the mobo and the cpu, which i didn't test because i dont have extra socket 939 cpu or mobo.

also, on the event logger, i found these error messages.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: DCOM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 10005
Date: 1/13/2005
Time: 10:52:33 AM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Description:
DCOM got error "This service cannot be started in Safe Mode " attempting to start the service EventSystem with arguments "" in order to run the server:
{1BE1F766-5536-11D1-B726-00C04FB926AF}

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7001
Date: 1/13/2005
Time: 10:53:30 AM
User: N/A
Description:
The DNS Client service depends on the TCP/IP Protocol Driver service which failed to start because of the following error:
A device attached to the system is not functioning.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: fasttx2k
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4
Date: 1/13/2005
Time: 10:54:30 AM
User: N/A
Description:
Driver detected an internal error in its data structures for .

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 5a 00 ......Z.
0008: 00 00 00 00 04 00 04 c0 .......
0010: 02 00 00 00 c0 00 00 c0 ......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........


Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7026
Date: 1/13/2005
Time: 11:44:58 AM
User: N/A
Description:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
fasttx2k

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Date: 1/13/2005
Time: 11:05:36 AM
User: N/A
Description:
Error code 100000ea, parameter1 f95e0da8, parameter2 fc7031d8, parameter3 f8a90cb4, parameter4 00000001.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 31 30 30 30 30 30 65 100000e
0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 66 39 eters f9
0030: 35 65 30 64 61 38 2c 20 5e0da8,
0038: 66 63 37 30 33 31 64 38 fc7031d8
0040: 2c 20 66 38 61 39 30 63 , f8a90c
0048: 62 34 2c 20 30 30 30 30 b4, 0000
0050: 30 30 30 31 0001

Event Type: Error
Event Source: DCOM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 10005
Date: 1/13/2005
Time: 10:53:39 AM
Description:
DCOM got error "This service cannot be started in Safe Mode " attempting to start the service netman with arguments "" in order to run the server:
{BA126AE5-2166-11D1-B1D0-00805FC1270E}

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance

 

[Reiniku]

im not sure if this will help, but what is your htt set to? from what i recall, when i first booted with the 3400+, the bios set it to 1000mhz. you should tune it down to 800, which is its normal frequency

 

[liljoker]

i have it on 200, thats the only speed that i can get it to boot up. is it too slow? i'm kinda new to this thing

thnks

 

[Sparky19692]

what rev did you flash your bios with? what are the rest of your system specs?
video, PSU. etc. was it a fresh OS load? have you checked you MOBO drivers?
I'm no fan of Tiger however I have never bought anything from them. Just what I hear is no good.

 

[SpecialistX]

check the other post i sent you

 

[Reiniku]

Originally posted by: liljoker
i have it on 200, thats the only speed that i can get it to boot up. is it too slow? i'm kinda new to this thing

thnks

thats not the htt i was talking about. there is another setting in the bios that lets you change the frequency, which defaults at 1000mhz, and can be changed (1000 is actually 5x htt), change it to 800.

Originally posted by: Sparky19692
what rev did you flash your bios with? what are the rest of your system specs?
video, PSU. etc. was it a fresh OS load? have you checked you MOBO drivers?
I'm no fan of Tiger however I have never bought anything from them. Just what I hear is no good.

if he got this to post, then this is not an issue involving tiger. I think that a fresh format and proper bios settings will solve his problem, but if it doesn't then its definitely a hardware issue

 

[ayman]

Reiniku, how did you ever find those parts at those prices sheesh
:Q

 

[Reiniku]

im 19, unemployed, and recieve no money from the parents. desperate times and all that

 

[Amaroque]

Originally posted by: liljoker
installed my computers a week ago.
3400+ AMD 64 Newcastle core. 939 sockets
a8v deluxe asus mobo

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance

Maybe your problem is due to the fact that you are trying to use a 754 pin CPU on a socket 939 MB.

I don't know how you're even getting that to POST.

Edit:

Model: AMD? Athlon? 64 3400+
Core: Newcastle
Speed: 2.4GHz
System Bus: Up to 1600 MHz
Cache: 512KB L2 Cache
Process: 0.13 Micron
Socket: 754
______________________________________________________

A8V Deluxe
CPU - Socket 939 for AMD Athlon 64FX / Athlon 64
AMD64 architecture enables simultaneous 32- and 64-bit computing
Supports AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology
Chipset VIA K8T800Pro
VIA VT8237
System Bus 2000 MT/s

 

[ayman]

LOL wow...how does that POST...

 

[Reiniku]

it posts because it IS a socket 939 chip? it has the same specs as a 3500+ newcastle but only 800mhz htt instead of 1000mhz

 

[ayman]

newcastle = 754 (what he has)
winchester = 939

 

[Amaroque]

Originally posted by: ayman
newcastle = 754 (what he has)
winchester = 939

Exactly my point... on a 939 board.

 

[formulav8]

There is a Socket 939 3400+. It is 2.2ghz. It is the same as a 3500+, but runs on the 4x 800mhz hypertransport link instead of the 1ghz htt link.

So, his cpu would be a 939 cpu and not 754.


Jason

 

[Amaroque]

But that would be a Winchester, he said he has a Newcastle. I haven't heard of a 939 Newcastle.

My point being, is that either he listed the wrong board, or the wrong CPU. I think that's fairly important as the board might be a nVidia based board, and not a Via based board. ASUS makes both in 939 and 754.

 

[ts3433]

Originally posted by: Amaroque
But that would be a Winchester, he said he has a Newcastle. I haven't heard of a 939 Newcastle.

There are such things as 939 Newcastles. They were the first chips out on the 939 socket--Winchester came only recently.

BONK (list includes the 3400+ 939 he speaks of)

 

[Reiniku]

Originally posted by: Amaroque
But that would be a Winchester, he said he has a Newcastle. I haven't heard of a 939 Newcastle.

My point being, is that either he listed the wrong board, or the wrong CPU. I think that's fairly important as the board might be a nVidia based board, and not a Via based board. ASUS makes both in 939 and 754.

he listed nothing incorrectly. it's an amd64 socket 939 3400+ NewCastle, running stock at 2.2ghz and 1600mhz htt. The motherboard is a via chipset, and IS socket 939

 

[Amaroque]

I stand corrected.

I searched, and couldn't find anything that matched Socket 939 Newcastle.

It is kinda odd to be using that old CPU (relatively speaking) in a new build though.

Anyway, My apology's

 

[Reiniku]

the main reason for using it is that it was on sale (AR) for $300 with the asus mobo, i didn't know any better at the time and now i wish i had gotten a 3000+ winnie instead

 

[ayman]

As do I, My apologies too. I didnt realize 939 pin was made by both. I did think it was only the winchester core.

Sorry

- Ayman

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: ayman
As do I, My apologies too. I didnt realize 939 pin was made by both. I did think it was only the winchester core.

Sorry

- Ayman

I wish.. my parts supplier is still not able to get me a .90nm CPU yet.

 

[SpecialistX]

Originally posted by: liljoker
i have it on 200, thats the only speed that i can get it to boot up. is it too slow? i'm kinda new to this thing

thnks

actually, i did help you set it to 800 before, still same results no matter what frequency the htt is set on.

Originally posted by: Reiniku

Originally posted by: liljoker
i have it on 200, thats the only speed that i can get it to boot up. is it too slow? i'm kinda new to this thing

thnks

thats not the htt i was talking about. there is another setting in the bios that lets you change the frequency, which defaults at 1000mhz, and can be changed (1000 is actually 5x htt), change it to 800.








actually i went down from 1000->800->200 just to test things out.

 

[SpecialistX]

Originally posted by: Sparky19692
what rev did you flash your bios with? what are the rest of your system specs?
video, PSU. etc. was it a fresh OS load? have you checked you MOBO drivers?
I'm no fan of Tiger however I have never bought anything from them. Just what I hear is no good.

he flashed up to 1.0.0.8, the latest on asus's website. btw just in case people are wondering who the heck i am and why im answering a few questions for him, im a peer of his and i helped him assemble his rig.

• CORE HARDWARE
  
  • Power supply Fortron Blue Storm 12v v2.0 500w
  • Motherboard Asus A8V Deluxe
    • Revision not sure?
    • BIOS not sure?
  • CPU Athlon64 3400+
    • Core Newcastle
  • Memory (2) 512MB Mushkin Enhanced PC3200 value sticks?
    • Voltage stock?
    • Timings AUTO, results in 2.5-2-2 @ 200MHz
• CARDS
  • Primary video card ATI Radeon 9600XT AGP 8X
  • Case Antec Super Lanboy
• DRIVES
  • Boot drive 160GB Seagate 7200.7
    • Interface ATA
    • Jumper setting Master
  • Optical drive #1 Plextor PX-712A
    • Interface Parallel ATA
    • Jumper setting Master
  
  
  yes it was a fresh new os install. installed winxp sp2 right away after first time on desktop. yes do NOT ever buy from tigerdirect! seems like they sell incompatible combinations of hardware in a single package. yes and we did install all the drivers on the asus cd that came with the mobo.

 

[SpecialistX]

Originally posted by: Amaroque

Originally posted by: liljoker
installed my computers a week ago.
3400+ AMD 64 Newcastle core. 939 sockets
a8v deluxe asus mobo

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance

Maybe your problem is due to the fact that you are trying to use a 754 pin CPU on a socket 939 MB.

I don't know how you're even getting that to POST.

Edit:

Model: AMD? Athlon? 64 3400+
Core: Newcastle
Speed: 2.4GHz
System Bus: Up to 1600 MHz
Cache: 512KB L2 Cache
Process: 0.13 Micron
Socket: 754
______________________________________________________

A8V Deluxe
CPU - Socket 939 for AMD Athlon 64FX / Athlon 64
AMD64 architecture enables simultaneous 32- and 64-bit computing
Supports AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology
Chipset VIA K8T800Pro
VIA VT8237
System Bus 2000 MT/s

actually, it is a socket s939 cpu. i do know the differences between the s939 and 754, and one of the most easiest giveaways is that the bottom of the cpu doesnt have the same amount of pins as the 939 (a big fat empty square in the middle). we are able to post, therefore that proves that it is a s939 and that it does fit. btw, the bios and cpu-z detect it running at 2.2ghz, and not 2.4. other than that, the core is the same, a newcastle.

Originally posted by: Reiniku
it posts because it IS a socket 939 chip? it has the same specs as a 3500+ newcastle but only 800mhz htt instead of 1000mhz

whoops, sorry i didnt see your post before posting myself.


this is the deal we picked up, except when we did a few months ago, it didnt come with speakers/keyboards/case/psu and junk like that. just the mobo and cpu.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...7737&CMP=AFC-AFFIL

 

[liljoker]

is the htt ur talking about the hypertransmission speed? what other speed you are talking about.

also, i forgot to tell u that the only way i can get the computer to work is by setting the overclocking to standard, when i set it to auto, it goes on standby everytime i start the comp, and it goes back to standby when i return it to regular state.

is it possible to use other bios to operate my cpu?

and oh, just to confirm, my cpu is 3400+ 939 sockets with asus a8v deluxe mobo, 512mb mushkin ram, plextor dvd, and as i said, i can confirm that all the parts except for my mobo and cpu because i have no other mobo or cpu to test them both.

from what i know, i can prolly narrow down the problem to some sort of incompability, bios, htt speed, overclocking speed, or parameter problems, unless any of you can give me some other posibility.

Originally posted by: Reiniku

Originally posted by: liljoker
i have it on 200, thats the only speed that i can get it to boot up. is it too slow? i'm kinda new to this thing

thnks

thats not the htt i was talking about. there is another setting in the bios that lets you change the frequency, which defaults at 1000mhz, and can be changed (1000 is actually 5x htt), change it to 800.

Originally posted by: Sparky19692
what rev did you flash your bios with? what are the rest of your system specs?
video, PSU. etc. was it a fresh OS load? have you checked you MOBO drivers?
I'm no fan of Tiger however I have never bought anything from them. Just what I hear is no good.

if he got this to post, then this is not an issue involving tiger. I think that a fresh format and proper bios settings will solve his problem, but if it doesn't then its definitely a hardware issue