31 die in suicide attack targeting Iran troops

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Even if we did have some contact with the group in the past...

Do you have any rational dispute with the evidence I presented to substantiate this, or are you simply attempting to ignore it?

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
...I'd simply call it Tit for Tat... "Tat" being 6+ years of direct Iranian involvement in training, arming, funding, and coordinating terrorist attacks against the Government of Iraq and Coalition Forces in Iraq.

Do you have any evidence of this, or just hollow claims from our government which are even disputed by the Iraqi government? Besides, even if we were to take our government's claims of such on faith, tit for tat would be more like if Iran had invaded Mexico, and we were sponsoring attacks against their occupation there.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
you're accusing the US to work with terrorist groups based on a news article?

I'm referencing mainstream media documenting US support of terrorist groups, while you are digging your head in the sand and flapping your feathers at me for not doing the same.

Originally posted by: Craig234
We currently don't have any apparent danger of states battling each other, or 'tribal' conflicts in our non-tribal society...

We've got gang warfare, some rather crappy crime rates in general, and things like jackbooted thugs assaulting college students for peacefully assembling to protest the globalist agenda.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: sandorski
Probably the work of the Taliban.

Or maybe the iranians themselves, so they can blame others. After what they did to their own people after the recent election, I wouldn't be surprised.

You mean like the US and 9/11?











j/k

 

[yllus]

When I overheard this happening over the weekend I assumed it was the work of Iran's own government in an attempt to distract and focus their people's rage on something other than them. Will have to see some pretty good evidence before I start thinking otherwise.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Even if we did have some contact with the group in the past...

Do you have any rational dispute with the evidence I presented to substantiate this, or are you simply attempting to ignore it?

I don't know much about that issue one way or another, which is why I purposely acknowledged that possibility and didn't deny it outright. Read much?

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
...I'd simply call it Tit for Tat... "Tat" being 6+ years of direct Iranian involvement in training, arming, funding, and coordinating terrorist attacks against the Government of Iraq and Coalition Forces in Iraq.

Do you have any evidence of this, or just hollow claims from our government which are even disputed by the Iraqi government? Besides, even if we were to take our government's claims of such on faith, tit for tat would be more like if Iran had invaded Mexico, and we were sponsoring attacks against their occupation there.

I'm sitting in Iraq right now, as I type this, and this isn't my first tour here. I have all the evidence I'll ever need.

Your silly Mexico analogy does nothing to excuse Iran's direct involvement in violence against U.S. troops or the government of Iraq. Have Iraq or the Coalition Forces attacked Iran since 2003? Did I miss it? Our mere presence next-door does not justify state-sponsored terrorism against our forces or our hosts, but that is exactly what Iran has done here.

Hell, you still haven't come up with a justification for Iran's decades of attacks against Israel either.

 

[NaughtyGeek]

If I was going to attack a country, would I not benefit from taking out several top members of their armed forces?

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Even if we did have some contact with the group in the past...

Do you have any rational dispute with the evidence I presented to substantiate this, or are you simply attempting to ignore it?

I don't know much about that issue one way or another, which is why I purposely acknowledged that possibility and didn't deny it outright. Read much?

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
...I'd simply call it Tit for Tat... "Tat" being 6+ years of direct Iranian involvement in training, arming, funding, and coordinating terrorist attacks against the Government of Iraq and Coalition Forces in Iraq.

Do you have any evidence of this, or just hollow claims from our government which are even disputed by the Iraqi government? Besides, even if we were to take our government's claims of such on faith, tit for tat would be more like if Iran had invaded Mexico, and we were sponsoring attacks against their occupation there.

I'm sitting in Iraq right now, as I type this, and this isn't my first tour here. I have all the evidence I'll ever need.

Your silly Mexico analogy does nothing to excuse Iran's direct involvement in violence against U.S. troops or the government of Iraq. Have Iraq or the Coalition Forces attacked Iran since 2003? Did I miss it? Our mere presence next-door does not justify state-sponsored terrorism against our forces or our hosts, but that is exactly what Iran has done here.

Hell, you still haven't come up with a justification for Iran's decades of attacks against Israel either.

The mere presence of a left-leaning official was justification enough for the US to overthrow dozens of democracies in the Middle East and South America. Most of the time, it came with bloodshed perpetuated by the US and US-backed groups in those countries. Iran is simply employing what it learned in the '53 coup against it and also the '80-88 war instigated by Iraq that was fully backed by the US, complete with US made chemical and biological weapons.

Of course, with the US, it's always "do as I say, not as I do." Sucks that you are on the receiving end of it, but millions of people have been on the receiving end of the US's paranoia regarding leftist movements during the Cold War.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
I don't know much about that issue one way or another, which is why I purposely acknowledged that possibility and didn't deny it outright. Read much?

I do read much, which is why I know about US support of such terrorist groups, and was able to dig up reports of it when the topic arose. On the other hand it doesn't seem that you have any interest in knowing about that issue, or reading up on much of anything at all for that matter.

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
I'm sitting in Iraq right now, as I type this, and this isn't my first tour here. I have all the evidence I'll ever need.

Well at least you are honest enough to admit you have no interest in founding your position on rational grounds here, so there is no point in discussing this matter with you further.

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Hell, you still haven't come up with a justification for Iran's decades of attacks against Israel either.

I've no interest in coming up with justifications for anyone, just discussing the facts. On the other hand, you keep attempting to misrepresent Iran's support of groups with grievances against Israel as more than what it is, apparently out of some need justify your hostility towards them.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: OCguy
It's too bad Iraq couldnt take out Iran before we took out them.

That's the primary reason why we never should have gone into Iraq in the first place.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

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Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
I don't know much about that issue one way or another, which is why I purposely acknowledged that possibility and didn't deny it outright. Read much?

I do read much, which is why I know about US support of such terrorist groups, and was able to dig up reports of it when the topic arose. On the other hand it doesn't seem that you have any interest in knowing about that issue, or reading up on much of anything at all for that matter.

Is that your own cute little way of admitting that I never denied the possibility that such contact may have occurred in the past?

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
I'm sitting in Iraq right now, as I type this, and this isn't my first tour here. I have all the evidence I'll ever need.

Well at least you are honest enough to admit you have no interest in founding your position on rational grounds here, so there is no point in discussing this matter with you further.

My first-hand knowledge of the issue is about as "rational" as it gets. How did you obtain your own supposed knowledge of the subject? Google? Osmosis perhaps? You once knew a guy who knows a guy?

Need more "proof"? Come see me in my office and we'll take a little drive.

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Hell, you still haven't come up with a justification for Iran's decades of attacks against Israel either.

I've no interest in coming up with justifications for anyone, just discussing the facts. On the other hand, you keep attempting to misrepresent Iran's support of groups with grievances against Israel as more than what it is, apparently out of some need justify your hostility towards them.

That would be because you can't justify Iran's decades of attacks on Israel -- don't take it personally though, as nobody else can justify them either. There is simply no justification for it... none... nada.

Answer the fucking question: Has Israel ever attacked Iran?

Hazbollah is an nonofficial paramilitary arm of the Iranian Government -- which includes the Kataeb Hezbollah arm in Iraq. To this day, they receive and act on orders issued directly by Iranian officials in Tehran. Deny this fact, I dare you.

I had no hostility toward Iran until they're state-sponsored terrorist pets started killing my brothers and sisters. There is simply no justification for their direct involvement with terrorism against my sworn friends and allies... none... nada.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: OCguy
It's too bad Iraq couldnt take out Iran before we took out them.

I wont shed a tear over any religous fundamentalist.

Including US religious fundamentalist Christians?

You are an immoral SOB for your point for Muslims IMO, but my question isn't about that.