31.7% of laptops fail due to non user malfunction in first 3 years

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taltamir

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i think many laptops fail because dust clogs the system inside and nobody cleans it. furthermore the heatsink paste that manufacturers put on (i swear to god) is designed to deteriorate after a couple years. at least thats what ive noticed. bad enough to the point where i take apart and rebuilt my laptops myself as soon as the warranty is out. clean out the dust and repaste everything with real heatsink goo and youd be surprised how quiet and nice it runs.

IIRC, even arctic silver 5 is recommended to be replaced every 2 years... and the TIM they put on it from the factory is crap.
 

Fayd

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IIRC, even arctic silver 5 is recommended to be replaced every 2 years... and the TIM they put on it from the factory is crap.

huh? arctic silver is meant to be left on for life.

the white grease drys out.

alot of manufacturers are going to a different type of paste that doesnt dry out. something similar to arctic silver.
 

taltamir

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huh? arctic silver is meant to be left on for life.

the white grease drys out.

alot of manufacturers are going to a different type of paste that doesnt dry out. something similar to arctic silver.

a quick google search shows it as a commonly repeated suggestion. I looked at their website and did not find any mention, so I sent them an email asking whether you need to reapply it. I am waiting for their response.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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people buy crappy consumer laptops and wonder why? i have had one laptop fail on me. I lent my buddy my car and my laptop; he ran over it with my car. it still works just the screen doesn't so its more of a desktop now.
C'mon now. I bought two cheapo (for the screen size at the time) Acer Extensa 4620Z from BestBuy in 2007. Upgraded the HDDs to 7200rpm drives, took it apart for cleaning about once a year and added new thermal paste, pop out the batteries whenever they're going to be used plugged in (*** not enough people do this ***). Still going strong to this day and the batteries are still darned near perfect.

The dang problem is that I just can't justify sidegrading to a new laptop. Can't really find anything that's much better for ~$400 (current 2GB, Intel X3100, T2330, 14.1").
 
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taltamir

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alright, I got a reply...
My message:
I was told that arctic silver 5 should be removed and reapplied every 6 months, 1 year, or 2 years (depending on the source" for optimal performance. Is this true? is there any benefit to removing it (with arcti clean 1 and 2) and then applying a fresh dose?
The reply from arctic:
For desktop/tower heatsinks held in place with spring clips, there is no need to reapply our thermal compounds unless the thermal interface has been physically disturbed by bumping the heatsink or rough transport. Low mass laptop heatsinks that are firmly screwed in place do not have this limitation.

Just shows you can trust everything you hear online. Thank you for making me doubt my "knowledge" and verifying it... there are few things I hate as much as remembering falsehood as a fact.
 

Fayd

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alright, I got a reply...
My message:

The reply from arctic:


Just shows you can trust everything you hear online. Thank you for making me doubt my "knowledge" and verifying it... there are few things I hate as much as remembering falsehood as a fact.

yeah... the only reason to really reapply heatsink goo is if you replace the heatsink. like i said, the white goo can dry out over time, because (tmk) it's water based. arctic silver is not. i've replaced heatsinks several years after the fact, and when i pulled it off, the goo was almost as gooey as the day i put it on.