3000 venice overheating?

[prizm]

I just set up a 3000+ venice w/ stock cooling, MSI RS480M2-IL, 1 gb valueselect ram, 120gb Samsung SATA and I have temps of 47C-50C idle. Is this normal?

Is there anyway to check temps in windows?

thx

 

[theMan]

yes. get speedfan or motherboard monitor 5. you may want to buy some arctic silver 5 and reseat the heatsink.

 

[Mrvile]

Originally posted by: prizm
I just set up a 3000+ venice w/ stock cooling, MSI RS480M2-IL, 1 gb valueselect ram, 120gb Samsung SATA and I have temps of 47C-50C idle. Is this normal?

Is there anyway to check temps in windows?

thx

Wow, that's really high, higher than most load temps even. You can check in Windows using Motherboard Monitor 5 or Speedfan. If it's too hot try reseating the heatsink on the CPU...what thermal paste did you use?

 

[The Pentium Guy]

MBM5 should do. Don't bother using software that comes with MSI (ex: Corecenter, etc). Also it's possible that you didn't install your thermal compound properly Or did you use the thermal pad that came with it? I beleive there's a plastic covering over the thermal pad so .... make sure that's off ... or you'll have a lot of plastic molded onto your CPU

 

[narcotic]

Most people here ignore the fact that the weather where you live matters alot, so if you live in a hot place, your 'normal' temps might be 10c-15c higer than people who live in colder regions.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: narcotic
Most people here ignore the fact that the weather where you live matters alot, so if you live in a hot place, your 'normal' temps might be 10c-15c higer than people who live in colder regions.

:thumbsup:

 

[prizm]

yes, i did remove the plastic and I am using the stock thermal pad.

maybe the ambient temps are just too high. i have the case open and the room temps are around 27C. i hope it is nothing wrong with the cpu

edit: i will report back after mbm5 install

cheers

 

[smthmlk]

i have a venice core 3000+ as well, overclocked to 2.16ghz, 1.475V At around 70-75F it runs in the 30C-38C range. Though when room temps get up to around 85-90F, it bumps up to the mid 40's C at idle, and up to the low 50's under load. My system also has a 6800Ultra heater in it as well.... that may or may not skew things. Room temp makes all the difference as others have said.

also, you might want to describe the case & cooling situation (fans, location of fans in sys, etc).

 

[Mrvile]

Originally posted by: narcotic
Most people here ignore the fact that the weather where you live matters alot, so if you live in a hot place, your 'normal' temps might be 10c-15c higer than people who live in colder regions.

Really? If you live in a cold place with a house temperature of about 65, compared to a hot place without AC with a house temperature of about 80, that's not a 10 - 15C difference...I don't know much about the physics of temperature though.

 

[feelingshorter]

i believe venice runs hotter than a winnie and my winnie runs at 28 C. If you live in a hot area it might be 5 or so C above the regular temps.

 

[prizm]

i thought venice was supposed to be cooler?

anyways the only fans for the case are the 120mm in the back and the antec smart power 2.0, which should not matter since it runs at the same temp even with an open case.

it seems that mbm 5 doesn't have the msi rs480m2 on the list of supporte mobos. the only temp i can see is the one in bios for now. the case is 34C and the cpu is 47C and amb is 27C

 

[Dothan]

you need to cool down your room !!!

27 celsius is around 81 fahrenheit which is entirely too warm for a PC room !!!

I reccommend a good air conditioner to get that down at least 10 degrees, it WILL make a difference !!!

 

[sniperruff]

it's 90F here in NYC and my comp's temp jumps by around 4-5C. so remember that.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: prizm
i thought venice was supposed to be cooler?

anyways the only fans for the case are the 120mm in the back and the antec smart power 2.0, which should not matter since it runs at the same temp even with an open case.

it seems that mbm 5 doesn't have the msi rs480m2 on the list of supporte mobos. the only temp i can see is the one in bios for now. the case is 34C and the cpu is 47C and amb is 27C

Your temperatures are fine for a room with that ambient temperature.

 

[Yanagi]

As long as it stays at low 50s during full load its fine. Try to touch your heatsink with your hand right after a full load session. Is it warm or cool? If its cool its either a) temp reading is wrong b) improper contact with the core.. Most likely number 1

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: Dothan
you need to cool down your room !!!

27 celsius is around 81 fahrenheit which is entirely too warm for a PC room !!!

I reccommend a good air conditioner to get that down at least 10 degrees, it WILL make a difference !!!

WOAH! I'm surprised! You actually didn't say "AMDs run hotter" but instead you posted a helpful comment.... Nice! I guess there's a first time for everything .

Alright - here's the thing. If you can Prime it for (let's say....) 12 hours, you're all set with those temps.

Btw, Prime reffers to Prime95 - a PC torture test program.

 

[furballi]

CPU and case temp should rise at 1:1 level as room temp. Room goes up 3C, expect the CPU and case to go up by at least 3C.

For example, my case temp is 24C when first started in the morning. CPU is around 28C. Remember that the CPU core will always be at least a few ticks higher than the heatsink temperature due to the temperature gradient. During normal operation, the heatsink temp will also be a few ticks higher than the room temp. Therefore, an easy way to calculate the lowest possible working CPU temp for an air cooled system is to add about 7C to the room temperature.

Winchester 3000 with 1.475 Vcore @ 2.3 GHz:
Nominal idle CPU temp with Cool n Quiet enabled...33 to 38C
Nominal Prime95 CPU temp with Cool n Quiet enabled...51 to 56C

The 5C range for both conditions is directly related to fluctuation in room temperature.

 

[ionoxx]

That is really high, I have a NewCastle 3200+ (2.2GHz) with a ThermalTake TR2-M6 which idles at 38C and vaires from 46C to 50C (with case fans atlow and GPU at max too) under load.

 

[prizm]

i have done prime95 stress test for 10+ hrs 2x and it never crashed once. then i put an alcohol thermometer at the top of the heatsink at it only rose to 35C at 100% load. Even with the inaccuracies of this measurement, i have a feeling the bios is simply reporting bad temps. i hope

 

[narcotic]

Originally posted by: Mrvile

Originally posted by: narcotic
Most people here ignore the fact that the weather where you live matters alot, so if you live in a hot place, your 'normal' temps might be 10c-15c higer than people who live in colder regions.

Really? If you live in a cold place with a house temperature of about 65, compared to a hot place without AC with a house temperature of about 80, that's not a 10 - 15C difference...I don't know much about the physics of temperature though.

well, you missed a couple of points,
1. I was only illustrating the possible temps. difference, so in reality diff. might be bigger/smaller...
2. Most systems have some sort of cooling (i.e intake and/or exhust fan/s) thus making the system at least a little cooler than room temprature in warm areas.
hope that helped clearing it up.