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30" widesreen 16:9 HDTV Philips refub for $600 shipped

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Careful. The seller considers demo units to be refurbs.

"Demonstration units are also considered factory refurbished. These units are inspected, tested and repackaged"

 
Yeah, reception from Best Buy is a really good indication of how good a HDTV is.

Anyhow, I'll reserve my judgement when I get the TV but the TV got very good reviews from Amazon customers.
 
Originally posted by: CTrain
Yeah, reception from Best Buy is a really good indication of how good a HDTV is.

Anyhow, I'll reserve my judgement when I get the TV but the TV got very good reviews from Amazon customers.
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I messed w/ the settings. The store I was in had crystal clear reception.


I thought about it and figured about 80% of the time I will be watching TV and only 20% of the time watching my DVDs. For me, this would be just a filler TV until I buy a house.
 
I went to BB today to look at one. I'd rather get a 32" flat screen Apex.
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I guess a $7 hour BB kiddo installed it 🙂 And thanks for that thoughtful insight full of rich answers and reasoning. It was compelling! 😛 j/k oh ye of little faith
 
I ordered mine today after going to BB to check out the picture quality. Looked great and got to compare it to 30" samsung right next to it. Both had great picture quality. I'll let you know more when it arrives.
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: Heifetz
Originally posted by: Glendor
Sorry, but I have to ask my usual stupid question. Some day I'm going to learn enough about TVs to answer this myself, but till then...

Would this make a descent computer monitor? I have an AIW 9700Pro, and I want a TV or giant monitor for my living room entertainment center. I don't want two devices, but one that will do double duty. Right now I have a 19" Sony monitor, but from accross the room, it is hard to watch movies or watch TV on. I would like something larger.

Glendor out...
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Don't think any TV will make a good monitor for normal use. It'll be fine for games and movies, if that is all you're planning to use it for, but I'll imagine that you'll have frequent eye strain if you're using anything that involves a lot of text. Just think of the difference between a 20" dell that run at 1600x1200 and this 30" tv that runs at max 1024i. Does the ATI have a max resolution for tv out?
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It supports 1080i and the AIW 9700pro supports and also outputs 1080i using its native component output. At 1080i or 480p, the overscan is a little much with the Radeon for a desktop with my particular display, but using the new Center View Timing support in the latest Cat drivers, it will place a 1280x1024, or 1280x960 desktop nicely in a 5:4 or 4:3 box on the 16:9 display with black bars on the side. With powerstrip and the guides at AVS forums, you could also map custom timings onto it. So, it is possible to use it the way you want perhaps. The price looks to be a good deal to me.
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But those are going to be interlaced modes and for regular computing tasks interlacing sucks big time and there will be very noticeable 30Hz flickering that will drive you mad. With a set like this the only way to avoid interlacing would be to use modes that will work with either 480p or perhaps 540p timing.


Anyway, for what Glendor wants I only see 2 reasonable options. One of those is a very large computer monitor like those made by monivision. I have one of these and it works reasonable well for this type of application. I have the model 6552sw. This is a 30" 16:9 aspect ratio monitor that supports resolutions up to 1280 x 768 @60Hz non-interlaced. It works pretty good especially considering it's price (under $1k), but many people, including myself, have had serious reliabiltiy issues with this monitor. I'm on my second one now, as the first one I recieved was defective. I've only owned it for a few months. I've heard of others having multiple failures within 6 months to a year with this same monitor. So, the relaibility of the monivision monitors, or at least this particular model may be questionable. I can only keep my fingers crossed and hope that this one holds up at least until I can get something better. The second option might be some of the new 30" or larger LCD TVs that can also accept a VGA input. I believe Sharp makes some 30" and 37" LCD TVs that may fit the bill. Whenever LCD technology gets better and cheaper, that's probably what I'll replace my monivision with, if it can hold up that long.

I'm not saying this Philips isn't a good TV set, but it's just that. It's a TV set and it's probably not going to be that great as a computer monitor. If you do intend to use it connected to a computer, you probably want to keep you existing monitor and use both in a dual monitor configuration such that you can use the regular PC moinitor for regular computing tasks and the Tv for video and perhaps gaming.
 
bump for an update

who got one---is it worth it

it would be slammen at the ole pool bar watching A-Rod whack

some long balls out of DA house during the summer nights


let me know:beer:😀:beer:
 
Originally posted by: NEWKILLA
bump for an update

who got one---is it worth it

it would be slammen at the ole pool bar watching A-Rod whack

some long balls out of DA house during the summer nights


let me know:beer:😀:beer:
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Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: NEWKILLA
bump for an update

who got one---is it worth it

it would be slammen at the ole pool bar watching A-Rod whack

some long balls out of DA house during the summer nights


let me know:beer:😀:beer:
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Yup, strange, from 130 currently available to 0 currently available in 1 hour.
 
Looks like mine shipped either the 24th or 25th.. No idea who the carrier is. What state is Electronics Nation in anyhow? Im in Calif, so lets see when it arrives.
 
A coworker ordered one of these, still no notification of it being shipped yet. Did you get an email when yours shipped?
 
Mine was shipped through Pilotair . I have never heard of this shipping company until late last night. I didn't receive any email about the shipping. However, they're extremely fast in response to your inquiry through email.
 
Originally posted by: porkchopskie
Mine was shipped through Pilotair . I have never heard of this shipping company until late last night. I didn't receive any email about the shipping. However, they're extremely fast in response to your inquiry through email.
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Mine was also shipped through Pilot Air. As of yesterday, the tracking info on Pilot's web site shows "ARRIVED AT PILOT DESTINATION" at 6:40AM. It doesn't say what that destination is, so I'll give them a call today. Hopefully it's here and I can arrange a delivery time.

Update: I called and it's in my city! Their delivery times are 9-5, M-F - majorly inconvenient. I'm going to pick it up from them tomorrow afternoon! 😀
 
I got this TV last week when Conn's (chain in Texas) had them for $699. I posted this at Anandtech and on AVS and a bunch of people told me to get this deal instead. I don't like to buy refurbished models so I paid a bit more to get it that evening and into my home. I think the big difference is that my new TV has a 1-year mftr. warranty while the one from EN is only 30-90 days.

A bunch of these TV's were returned because of a supposed "banding' on the screen caused by a poor power supply...

I have the TV and got it wired and tweaked this week and think the picture is great! It does look a lot better than it did out of the box once I adjusted the color, sharp and used good component cables.

Now we just need more HD programming (ESPN in April!)

Grimas
 
Well, if I had a chance to buy the TV brand new at a local store for about $150 more I would have done that too.
But like I said, 95% of the people don't live in Texas.
 
Originally posted by: grimas
I got this TV last week when Conn's (chain in Texas) had them for $699. I posted this at Anandtech and on AVS and a bunch of people told me to get this deal instead. I don't like to buy refurbished models so I paid a bit more to get it that evening and into my home. I think the big difference is that my new TV has a 1-year mftr. warranty while the one from EN is only 30-90 days.

A bunch of these TV's were returned because of a supposed "banding' on the screen caused by a poor power supply...

I have the TV and got it wired and tweaked this week and think the picture is great! It does look a lot better than it did out of the box once I adjusted the color, sharp and used good component cables.

Now we just need more HD programming (ESPN in April!)

Grimas
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Grimas, you'll have to help us all set up our sets once we get em. 🙂
 
Mine shipped on the 26th, but in Ca, so i dont know how long it will take to get here. Where is Electronics Nation anyhow?
 
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