'30 Days' with Morgan Spurlock

UNCjigga

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Just caught the episode where he's living on minimum wage for 30 days. There wasn't anything spectacular about the experiment--of course its going to be harder to pay for stuff when you're broke, and you won't have any savings. Wasn't surprised he went in depth on the issue of paying for health care.

What was surprising was the amount of stress it puts on a relationship (his fiance Alex was also participating.) Makes me wonder how many divorces in this country are over money issues (I bet its a bigger homewrecker than having an affair.)
 

pyonir

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I found it to be a pretty good hour of television as well. I never saw supersize me, so was intrigued by this show. I'll be watching the next few episodes.
 

Muadib

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I forgot about this until it was half over.:( I'll be back after I watch it.
 

iamwiz82

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It was annoying the amount of spinning they did to put their political stance into the show.

Think the injuries were staged so they had to go to the hospital to show how bad health care is?
 

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Originally posted by: pyonir
I found it to be a pretty good hour of television as well. I never saw supersize me, so was intrigued by this show. I'll be watching the next few episodes.

Same here. I wasn't planning on watching the series. Just kind of stumbled on it and started watching.
 

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It was pretty entertaining and eye opening. I felt bad afterwards about all the bitchin' I do. Really made me feel bad about the health care system. I got laidoff about 2 years ago and had no insurance for about 8 months and I had to pay bills like that.
 

Amused

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After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt

 

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Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.


 

Amused

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.

No, it's not. It creates an unhealthy and unrealistic look at foods that are perfectly fine in moderation, and in many cases, a part of a very healthy diet. Beef is NOT the "devil."

Not only that, but it demonizes a perfectly innocent company. Something that seems to be in vogue these days, but is no less damaging than if someone labeled you a terrorist and damaged your ability to make a living.

Finally, it's not diets that need to change, but activities. We're eating the very same foods we ate for the last 40+ years. The only thing that has changed is our activities. The kicker is that sedentary lifestyles leads to over eating because what else is there to do while lying around? The #1 activity while watching a movie, TV, or surfing the web is... Munching.

We went through a low fat craze starting in the late 70s and throughout the 80s into the 90s. What did it get us? The largest increase in obesity in history.

Food and those who sell it are not the problem. It's like blaming guns for crime... but then, that's the leftist way. No one is responsible for their actions unless they are making money from it. Personal responsibility is totally and completely nullified.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.

No, it's not. It creates an unhealthy and unrealistic look at foods that are perfectly fine in moderation, and in many cases, a part of a very healthy diet. Beef is NOT the "devil."

Not only that, but it demonizes a perfectly innocent company. Something that seems to be in vogue these days, but is no less damaging than if someone labeled you a terrorist and damaged your ability to make a living.

Finally, it's not diets that need to change, but activities. We're eating the very same foods we ate for the last 40+ years. The only thing that has changed is our activities. The kicker is that sedentary lifestyles leads to over eating because what else is there to do while lying around? The #1 activity while watching a movie, TV, or surfing the web is... Munching.

We went through a low fat craze starting in the late 70s and throughout the 80s into the 90s. What did it get us? The largest increase in obesity in history.

Food and those who sell it are not the problem. It's like blaming guns for crime... but then, that's the leftist way. No one is responsible for their actions unless they are making money from it. Personal responsibility is totally and completely nullified.

Amused, I was thinking the same thing while reading the posts. :beer::thumbsup:
 

whistleclient

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.

No, it's not. It creates an unhealthy and unrealistic look at foods that are perfectly fine in moderation, and in many cases, a part of a very healthy diet. Beef is NOT the "devil."

Not only that, but it demonizes a perfectly innocent company. Something that seems to be in vogue these days, but is no less damaging than if someone labeled you a terrorist and damaged your ability to make a living.

Finally, it's not diets that need to change, but activities. We're eating the very same foods we ate for the last 40+ years. The only thing that has changed is our activities. The kicker is that sedentary lifestyles leads to over eating because what else is there to do while lying around? The #1 activity while watching a movie, TV, or surfing the web is... Munching.

We went through a low fat craze starting in the late 70s and throughout the 80s into the 90s. What did it get us? The largest increase in obesity in history.

Food and those who sell it are not the problem. It's like blaming guns for crime... but then, that's the leftist way. No one is responsible for their actions unless they are making money from it. Personal responsibility is totally and completely nullified.

Matt,
Just because you make a declarative statement doesn't mean it's true. It's my opinion that our activities AND our diets need to change.

Whether you like it or not, many Americans are eating multiple meals a week from fast food restaurants. Whether you like it or not, this food is prepared in an unhealthy manner. No, beef is not the devil. But the way it's prepared can be unhealthy.

If his documentary prompted McDonalds to offer healthy menu options, then the net effect is good. If his documentary prompted people to rethink their diet and hit the gym, then the net effect is good.

You seem to want to make this a political discussion, which means you're a sheep in your own special way. ;)






 

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I wanted to watch the show but missed it. The only reason I wanted to watch it was to see how far he was going to take the "living on minimum wage" bit. Honestly, the vast majority of people who earn minimum wage are either high school students, people on their first job, or the mentally handicapped. And, if you are only capable of making minimum wage, you have no business having kids.

I'm sure it made for good TV but unless he addressed those facts it was probably intellectually dishonest.
 

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.

No, it's not. It creates an unhealthy and unrealistic look at foods that are perfectly fine in moderation, and in many cases, a part of a very healthy diet. Beef is NOT the "devil."

Not only that, but it demonizes a perfectly innocent company. Something that seems to be in vogue these days, but is no less damaging than if someone labeled you a terrorist and damaged your ability to make a living.

Finally, it's not diets that need to change, but activities. We're eating the very same foods we ate for the last 40+ years. The only thing that has changed is our activities. The kicker is that sedentary lifestyles leads to over eating because what else is there to do while lying around? The #1 activity while watching a movie, TV, or surfing the web is... Munching.

We went through a low fat craze starting in the late 70s and throughout the 80s into the 90s. What did it get us? The largest increase in obesity in history.

Food and those who sell it are not the problem. It's like blaming guns for crime... but then, that's the leftist way. No one is responsible for their actions unless they are making money from it. Personal responsibility is totally and completely nullified.

Matt,
Just because you make a declarative statement doesn't mean it's true. It's my opinion that our activities AND our diets need to change.

Whether you like it or not, many Americans are eating multiple meals a week from fast food restaurants. Whether you like it or not, this food is prepared in an unhealthy manner. No, beef is not the devil. But the way it's prepared can be unhealthy.

If his documentary prompted McDonalds to offer healthy menu options, then the net effect is good. If his documentary prompted people to rethink their diet and hit the gym, then the net effect is good.

You seem to want to make this a political discussion, which means you're a sheep in your own special way. ;)

The highlighed portion is the biggest piece of crap I have ever read. Well not ever, but close. McDs is a FAST FOOD place, built around the cheeseburger. It is NOT a salad joint. If you don't like it, then don't eat there - plain and simple.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.

No, it's not. It creates an unhealthy and unrealistic look at foods that are perfectly fine in moderation, and in many cases, a part of a very healthy diet. Beef is NOT the "devil."

Not only that, but it demonizes a perfectly innocent company. Something that seems to be in vogue these days, but is no less damaging than if someone labeled you a terrorist and damaged your ability to make a living.

Finally, it's not diets that need to change, but activities. We're eating the very same foods we ate for the last 40+ years. The only thing that has changed is our activities. The kicker is that sedentary lifestyles leads to over eating because what else is there to do while lying around? The #1 activity while watching a movie, TV, or surfing the web is... Munching.

We went through a low fat craze starting in the late 70s and throughout the 80s into the 90s. What did it get us? The largest increase in obesity in history.

Food and those who sell it are not the problem. It's like blaming guns for crime... but then, that's the leftist way. No one is responsible for their actions unless they are making money from it. Personal responsibility is totally and completely nullified.

Matt,
Just because you make a declarative statement doesn't mean it's true. It's my opinion that our activities AND our diets need to change.

Whether you like it or not, many Americans are eating multiple meals a week from fast food restaurants. Whether you like it or not, this food is prepared in an unhealthy manner. No, beef is not the devil. But the way it's prepared can be unhealthy.

If his documentary prompted McDonalds to offer healthy menu options, then the net effect is good. If his documentary prompted people to rethink their diet and hit the gym, then the net effect is good.

You seem to want to make this a political discussion, which means you're a sheep in your own special way. ;)

If this movie prompts anyone to do anything other than come to the conclusion that Spurlock is a slanderous fraud, they are the "sheep."

People have been eating the very same fast food since the 1950s. People have been cooking and frying food in lard since recorded history.

The obesity epidemic started in the mid-late 80s and got it's legs in the 90s.

While correlation does not prove causation, causation demands correlation.

The foods have been there all along. The major change correlating with the obesity epidemic is our activities, and the increased calorie intake they allow.

Hundreds of years of high fat diets + 4 decades of fast food without an epidemic of obesity MORE than absolves these foods of blame.

If you think "Supersize me" is anything BUT political and anti-corporate/capitalist in nature, you're the sheep.
 

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I just love people that completely missed the point of Super Size Me. There are people in America that eat fast food 2-3 times a day. Documenting and presenting the effects of such a diet hopefully enlightened a few of them to the dangers involved.

As for 30 Days, it was a superficial look at the political nature of minimum wage and a descriptive look at the effect on the working man/woman. But how much can you really cover in 42-45 minutes?

The performance enhancing drug one looks pretty good for next week.
 

MrChad

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I enjoyed Supersize Me. I thought it was entertaining and engaging. Spurlock did admit that his diet in that movie was in no way "normal" and that the health problems he suffering were greatly exaggerating over what a casual fast food eater would experience. His movie was extremely one-sided (as I expected), but it had some good points.

I disliked his finger pointing at McDonald's, which I believe should be allowed to sell whatever food it chooses and let the public decide whether or not the fat and calories are worth it. I did like his piece on school lunches and the importance of educating children on how to eat healthily and have regular physical activity. My fiancee teaches in the inner city and was astounded at the miserable physical education program there, the poor food choices in the cafeteria and the general ignorance among her students about what foods are healthy and what foods aren't. Parents play a big role in teaching this, but I think schools (especially in urban areas) should get involved too.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: mflacy
I just love people that completely missed the point of Super Size Me. There are people in America that eat fast food 2-3 times a day. Documenting and presenting the effects of such a diet hopefully enlightened a few of them to the dangers involved.

Um, no. Supersize me did NOT show the effects of eating only fast food. It showed the effects of force feeding and eating past the point of not only being full, but being physically ill.

You missed the reality. The movie had no valid point.

Not even the obese do this to themselves. Even the fatties out there stop when they are full. Only people with serious eating disorders would do such a thing, and those who do don't live very long for the same reason geese force feed grain to enlarge their livers don't live long.

BTW, if you google "the McDonald's Diet" you'll quickly find many people who have completely debunked Spurlock's slander by eating only McDonald's and losing weight. Why? Because they balanced their diet and moderated their intake. Just like you would do with ANY FOOD.
 

whistleclient

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Originally posted by: Amused


If this movie prompts anyone to do anything other than come to the conclusion that Spurlock is a slanderous fraud, they are the "sheep."

People have been eating the very same fast food since the 1950s. People have been cooking and frying food in lard since recorded history.

The obesity epidemic started in the mid-late 80s and got it's legs in the 90s.

While correlation does not prove causation, causation demands correlation.

The foods have been there all along. The major change correlating with the obesity epidemic is our activities, and the increased calorie intake they allow.

Hundreds of years of high fat diets + 4 decades of fast food without an epidemic of obesity MORE than absolves these foods of blame.

If you think "Supersize me" is anything BUT political and anti-corporate/capitalist in nature, you're the sheep.



poor, poor Amused.
so lost and confused.


here's a cookie to make you feel better:

:cookie:

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: tangent1138

poor, poor Amused.
so lost and confused.


here's a cookie to make you feel better:

:cookie:

:roll:

Come back when you have a valid argument, not a cookie.
 
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.

No, it's not. It creates an unhealthy and unrealistic look at foods that are perfectly fine in moderation, and in many cases, a part of a very healthy diet. Beef is NOT the "devil."

Not only that, but it demonizes a perfectly innocent company. Something that seems to be in vogue these days, but is no less damaging than if someone labeled you a terrorist and damaged your ability to make a living.

Finally, it's not diets that need to change, but activities. We're eating the very same foods we ate for the last 40+ years. The only thing that has changed is our activities. The kicker is that sedentary lifestyles leads to over eating because what else is there to do while lying around? The #1 activity while watching a movie, TV, or surfing the web is... Munching.

We went through a low fat craze starting in the late 70s and throughout the 80s into the 90s. What did it get us? The largest increase in obesity in history.

Food and those who sell it are not the problem. It's like blaming guns for crime... but then, that's the leftist way. No one is responsible for their actions unless they are making money from it. Personal responsibility is totally and completely nullified.

I agree with you, but I don't.

While we may be eating the same thing we have for years, the fact is since the unhealthy food is much less expensive and readily available, that people are choosing to go with it over the alternative.

While I admittedly can't speak for other people, when I eat healthier food (get more fruit and veggies, more lean meat, etc.) I feel a lot better, regardless of if I overeat it or not. In fact, if I eat just a single pizza all day (with some pop to wash it down with) which is enough to make me feel full, but still somewhat hungry, I feel pretty crappy and not like doing any actual physical activity, regardless of if its been 6 months since I've eaten this or just yesterday. Whereas if I overeat healthy food (fish fillets, potatoes with nothing on them, fruit, whole grain bread, skim milk, water, etc.) I feel much better and actually feel like doing something.

The quality of food you eat, I personally feel can have a large impact on how you feel.

I agree that people have gotten far too used to sedentary lifestyles.

Another thing I've noticed is that its starting earlier in life when people are doing less and eating more (and unhealthily). I see kids getting much more fast food than they used to, drinking a lot more pop, and eating much more junk food (chips, cookies, etc.). When I was younger, I would have to eat at least some of my healthy food before I could get any junk food. I used to drink juice a lot more than pop as well. Later in life about junior high or so, my family became very poor, so we had to buy the cheaper foods, which happened to be not terribly healthy. We could get chips and pop for a lot cheaper than we could get normal potatoes and milk, so which did we eat more of? During this time I started to become noticably overweight, and I felt like total crap. Also during this time I even worked out. I lifted weights, I did sit-ups, I would go out and play basketball with friends nearly everyday after school. Finally in between sophomore and junior years of high school I was able to eat much healthier again. I cut out pop entirely, I switched to a lot of fat free foods, I didn't eat junk food, I ate a lot more fruits and vegetables, and replaced most things with healthier alternatives. I had actually became less active during this time, never playing sports, and barely ever lifted weights or anything. I felt great though. Finally after a while of eating much better I began to feel like getting more active and so got back into lifting weights, would go to a local track to run/walk and then got into the greatest shape of my life. Skip to college, where I fell back into unhealthy eating. I stopped being as active as well, and just felt terrible most of the time. I forced myself to become active again, walking everywhere I could, lifting weights, etc, but I continued to eat fairly badly and things didn't really change, I still felt bad. Now, I'm finally getting back into healthy eating, even though I'm not staying very active. I feel pretty good though.

For me, and surely other people, diet is as important to health as being active and getting exercise.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: fenrir
Originally posted by: Amused
After his outright fraud with Supersize Me, I have no interest in watching anything else from this Micheal Moore propaganda wannabe.

Force feeding oneself to the point of illness, then blaming it on the food is simply the most slanderous thing I've seen of late. He did to himself exactly what farmers do to geese to enlarge their livers to make Foie Gras. He force fed himself 3-5 times his normal calorie intake. He ate past the point of being full or "stuffed." He ate past the point of being physically ill.

You can have the same effect with ANY food. In fact, geese are force fed grain to fatten their livers.

To do this with one restaurant's food and blame them for the ill effects is slander.

If the man is willing to mislead people this much, why on Earth would I listen to anything else he has to say?

I agree with you 100%. I almost hate this guy as much as Michael Moore. I was disgusted to see that he was given his own series where he could tell more lies. It is just more proof that the general public are sheep.

Matt



relax. it's a tv show. sure, it's a hyperbolic look at America, but if it prompts people to look at their diet and make changes, then the net effect is good.

No, it's not. It creates an unhealthy and unrealistic look at foods that are perfectly fine in moderation, and in many cases, a part of a very healthy diet. Beef is NOT the "devil."

Not only that, but it demonizes a perfectly innocent company. Something that seems to be in vogue these days, but is no less damaging than if someone labeled you a terrorist and damaged your ability to make a living.

Finally, it's not diets that need to change, but activities. We're eating the very same foods we ate for the last 40+ years. The only thing that has changed is our activities. The kicker is that sedentary lifestyles leads to over eating because what else is there to do while lying around? The #1 activity while watching a movie, TV, or surfing the web is... Munching.

We went through a low fat craze starting in the late 70s and throughout the 80s into the 90s. What did it get us? The largest increase in obesity in history.

Food and those who sell it are not the problem. It's like blaming guns for crime... but then, that's the leftist way. No one is responsible for their actions unless they are making money from it. Personal responsibility is totally and completely nullified.

I agree with you, but I don't.

While we may be eating the same thing we have for years, the fact is since the unhealthy food is much less expensive and readily available, that people are choosing to go with it over the alternative.

While I admittedly can't speak for other people, when I eat healthier food (get more fruit and veggies, more lean meat, etc.) I feel a lot better, regardless of if I overeat it or not. In fact, if I eat just a single pizza all day (with some pop to wash it down with) which is enough to make me feel full, but still somewhat hungry, I feel pretty crappy and not like doing any actual physical activity, regardless of if its been 6 months since I've eaten this or just yesterday. Whereas if I overeat healthy food (fish fillets, potatoes with nothing on them, fruit, whole grain bread, skim milk, water, etc.) I feel much better and actually feel like doing something.

The quality of food you eat, I personally feel can have a large impact on how you feel.

I agree that people have gotten far too used to sedentary lifestyles.

Another thing I've noticed is that its starting earlier in life when people are doing less and eating more (and unhealthily). I see kids getting much more fast food than they used to, drinking a lot more pop, and eating much more junk food (chips, cookies, etc.). When I was younger, I would have to eat at least some of my healthy food before I could get any junk food. I used to drink juice a lot more than pop as well. Later in life about junior high or so, my family became very poor, so we had to buy the cheaper foods, which happened to be not terribly healthy. We could get chips and pop for a lot cheaper than we could get normal potatoes and milk, so which did we eat more of? During this time I started to become noticably overweight, and I felt like total crap. Also during this time I even worked out. I lifted weights, I did sit-ups, I would go out and play basketball with friends nearly everyday after school. Finally in between sophomore and junior years of high school I was able to eat much healthier again. I cut out pop entirely, I switched to a lot of fat free foods, I didn't eat junk food, I ate a lot more fruits and vegetables, and replaced most things with healthier alternatives. I had actually became less active during this time, never playing sports, and barely ever lifted weights or anything. I felt great though. Finally after a while of eating much better I began to feel like getting more active and so got back into lifting weights, would go to a local track to run/walk and then got into the greatest shape of my life. Skip to college, where I fell back into unhealthy eating. I stopped being as active as well, and just felt terrible most of the time. I forced myself to become active again, walking everywhere I could, lifting weights, etc, but I continued to eat fairly badly and things didn't really change, I still felt bad. Now, I'm finally getting back into healthy eating, even though I'm not staying very active. I feel pretty good though.

For me, and surely other people, diet is as important to health as being active and getting exercise.

The myth that eating healthy is more expensive is just that, a myth.

It's more difficult and time consuming to prepare your own foods, but it is NOT more expensive. In fact, in many cases, it's cheaper.

My grocery bill is lower than if I ate out at fast food places all week. And I buy no junk food or munchies (I'm a body builder).