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rudder

Lifer
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Facepalm. You do see you disagreed with me and then agreed with me and made my point do you not?

CFL's were an American thing but they did not invest in it. Someone from Asia did take the time and invest in it and now they are the largest maker. It quite simple yet you seem to not be able to see even the cold hard truth.

Only because you disagreed with my first statement... which you actually agreed to, but you did not realize it.

CFL's cannot be made affordably in the U.S. Too many chemicals.
 

Infohawk

Lifer
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This is really too bad... all these illegals Obama is letting stay were going to need these jobs.
 

Hacp

Lifer
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With Illegals, taxes, and now outsourcing our oil and gas Energy jobs to China's "green" industry, Obama is screwing us over. A bunch!
 

Patranus

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Its a shame that the government has prevented job creation in the United States.
 

marincounty

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With Illegals, taxes, and now outsourcing our oil and gas Energy jobs to China's "green" industry, Obama is screwing us over. A bunch!

Actually more illegals have been deported under this administration than the last, and taxes haven't been lower in many years, so what exactly is your problem?
 

Fern

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Sep 30, 2003
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CFL's never last as long as they are advertised. They are a big lie.

That's my experience with them too.

I don't think they even last as long as the cheap incandescent bulbs yet they cost an awful lot more.

I'm planning on buying a few hundred incandescent bulbs and storing in my garage before this ban hits.

Fern
 
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Facepalm. You do see you disagreed with me and then agreed with me and made my point do you not?

CFL's were an American thing but they did not invest in it. Someone from Asia did take the time and invest in it and now they are the largest maker. It quite simple yet you seem to not be able to see even the cold hard truth.

You fail at seeing that Congress while not specifically banning incadecent light bulbs, effectively banned them by making them not fit into new regulations for efficiency. It 's typical political manuevering. Don't ban something because bans are bad, just make it impossible or financially impractical to do something and the "problem" will work itself out.
 

heyheybooboo

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Pssst ...

As LED lamp production ramps over the next few years CFL prices will drop like a stone making incandescent bulbs useless.

Thought yall might want to know ...

(of course, some of you still probably cling to old b&w tube TVs & radios, and are waiting for betamax to make that big comeback)




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CanOWorms

Lifer
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Actually, don't most wind turbines and solar tech come from Europe?

I'm not sure about wind turbines, but most solar technology comes from the United States. It's a closely related to the semiconductor industry.

However, there is a difference between where the technology comes from and where it is used.
 
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Oh and congress did NOT phase out production of incandescent bulbs. All the bill did was require a set efficiency. Other bulbs like halogen can also meet those specs.

And light bulb factories were shutting down well before this bill. But hey why let a little thing like facts get in the way.

Because they've been reading out of Fox's "How to interpret and spin the news to fit your rhetoric" best seller.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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"Hey co-worker, where do I put the mercury in this thing?"


I need a job with some green.

That's why we need to push high efficiency LED based light bulbs. We currently make the majority of these LEDs. Also, the frequency spectrum can be tweeked to mimic incandescents and just about any lighting sceme you can think of. They are still so damn spendy though so far.
 

werepossum

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That's why we need to push high efficiency LED based light bulbs. We currently make the majority of these LEDs. Also, the frequency spectrum can be tweeked to mimic incandescents and just about any lighting sceme you can think of. They are still so damn spendy though so far.

Actually the vast majority of high-brightness LEDs in the products I deal with are manufactured in China. It's considered a big deal to assemble them (mount the LEDs on boards with the drivers) in this country, but we make damned few of the LEDs here. And the vast majority of LEDs used in lighting are "white" LEDs, which are simply blue LEDs coated with phosphors just like fluorescent lamps. Cree does make some modules that consist of a red LED and a yellow-green LED; the color isn't any better than white LEDs, but their driver allows them to measure spectrum and keep the light balanced over the life of the LED. And of course if you have a large enough wallet you can mix red, green and blue LEDs for excellent light. But considering that a site lighting fixture might cost $200 in metal halide and $2,000 in LED there isn't a lot of interest in general purpose RGB LED lighting right now.