3 Militia members arrested in plot to bomb mosque and apartments

[brycejones]

Three men were arrested in Kansas for plotting to bomb a Somali mosque and apartments. Extremists of any creed are the risk and are not limited to one faith or ethnic group.

http://www.kansas.com/news/state/article108279072.html

For those that prefer their news from Fox:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/1...ed-bomb-plot-targeting-somali-immigrants.html

 

[Texashiker]

When do we open the immigration doors to militia members? That seems to be the democrat answer to terrorism.

Those are not militia members, those are terrorist.

 

[brycejones]

When do we open the immigration doors to militia members? That seems to be the democrat answer to terrorism.

Those are not militia members, those are terrorist.

Your evidence for them not being members of a militia? BTW they can be both things at once. Your first two sentences are just retarded ranting.

 

[HomerJS]

Bet money GOP will not count this as terrorism. Just like Charlestown is not terrorism. At least not terrorism they talk about.

 

[HomerJS]

Radical right-wing militia terrorism.

 

[MongGrel]

My father was more or less a militia nutcase even prior to 9/11 at his local small town gun store, I always just thought of it as a bit of an oddity at the time.

I used to go there after I got out of the Marines myself and hung out occasionally in the mid 80's. Were mostly local farmers and vets, they had a range.

But the really radical ones seem to be coming out of the woodwork these days.

 

[allisolm]

Those are not militia members, those are terrorist.

From the articles linked above:
"The men are members of a small militia group that calls itself "the Crusaders," and whose members espouse sovereign citizen, anti-government, anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant extremist beliefs,"
"Terror plot by militia group"
"...stopped a domestic terrorism plot by a militia group"
"The men are members of a small militia group that call themselves the Crusaders"
"Stein also told the FBI source he was worried Allen’s girlfriend would go to the Liberal Police Department and disclose the militia’s plans"
"He described the defendants as being part of a militia with “sovereign citizen” ties"
"Three members of a Kansas militia group."
"The FBI began a domestic terrorism investigation of the group in February, and a confidential source attended its meetings in southwestern Kansas"

Sounds like militia members to me. The group has extreme beliefs but it certainly appears to be militia.

 

[Texashiker]

My father was more or less a militia nutcase even prior to 9/11 .

Something that people forget about, every able bodied male over the age of 18 years old is in the militia, you just do not know it.

 

[Texashiker]

Sounds like militia members to me. The group has extreme beliefs but it certainly appears to be militia.

A militia helps local and state governments restore and maintain order.

A militia does not break the law. When that group decided to break the law, they were no longer a militia.

Every able bodied male over 18 can be called up by the sheriff or governor. Every man is a member of the militia.

 

[feralkid]

Something that people forget about, every able bodied male over the age of 18 years old is in the militia, you just do not know it.

Whatever you say, Tex.

 

[Texashiker]

Whatever you say, Tex.

Change that to 17 years old.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

 

[brycejones]

A militia helps local and state governments restore and maintain order.

A militia does not break the law. When that group decided to break the law, they were no longer a militia.

LOL just LOL

 

[IronWing]

One of the three arrested right wing militia terrorists had one of the Bundistas favorited on his public facebook page. I don't know if there was any direct communication between the two groups.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

hmmm appears that toothless has some extra time on his hands after all. I think allisolm laid it out fairly. rarely do you associate militia (in it's current definition) as a group of stable minded individuals. they tend to be railing against one thing or another, and usually with weapons and explosives.

 

[Jhhnn]

A militia helps local and state governments restore and maintain order.

A militia does not break the law. When that group decided to break the law, they were no longer a militia.

Every able bodied male over 18 can be called up by the sheriff or governor. Every man is a member of the militia.

Back when this country actually had militias, they were organized by state & local *governments*. Modern "militias" aren't that at all but rather something else entirely.

The modern analog of militias is the National Guard, not the so-called "Patriot" movement.

 

[allisolm]

The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

The people who are members of the current militia movement have absolutely no relation to the "militia of the United States" you reference. They are extremist groups, most of which pose no threat, but again are NOT to be confused with the US militia.

 

[Texashiker]

The people who are members of the current militia movement have absolutely no relation to the "militia of the United States" you reference. They are extremist groups, most of which pose no threat, but again are NOT to be confused with the US militia.

We are in agreement, so why the hostility?

 

[brycejones]

We are in agreement, so why the hostility?

Cool so you admit they are members of a militia and terrorists?

 

[allisolm]

We are in agreement, so why the hostility?

I just looked outside and it appears the world is still turning, so I'm pretty sure we are not in agreement.

 

[Texashiker]

Cool so you admit they are members of a militia and terrorists?

Can not be both.

If that organization breaks the law, they are not a militia.

 

[brycejones]

Can not be both.

If that organization breaks the law, they are not a militia.

Wrong in this case they are a terrorist militia organization. Your yammering that they are not doesn't change that.

 

[alien42]

Can not be both.

If that organization breaks the law, they are not a militia.

so you consider them a militia until the second they break the law and then they are no longer a militia.

i'm sure you feel the same way about christians and republicans as well.

 

[MongGrel]

Something that people forget about, every able bodied male over the age of 18 years old is in the militia, you just do not know it.

You're an idiot if you believe that.

But from your posts I doubt you have ever been in the military to begin with.

Maybe you should sign up for 4 years and be a patriot then come back and trash talk.

 

[DrDoug]

I wonder if TH is a member of a militia (other than the one he says everyone belongs to) and he's in here to defend militias as he defines them, thus his trying to make us see some difference that only he sees. It's seems simple to me: American men in a right-wing militia organization were planning terrorist attacks that were thwarted by the FBI.

They are domestic terrorists and the purpose of their planned attack was to maim, kill and terrorize those they hate and to get the attention of other militias, hopefully sparking them into similar actions.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I wonder if TH is a member of a militia (other than the one he says everyone belongs to) and he's in here to defend militias as he defines them, thus his trying to make us see some difference that only he sees. It's seems simple to me: American men in a right-wing militia organization were planning terrorist attacks that were thwarted by the FBI.

They are domestic terrorists and the purpose of their planned attack was to maim, kill and terrorize those they hate and to get the attention of other militias, hopefully sparking them into similar actions.

yea, but they're white.