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LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
So... everyone's in agreement, then, that "DAG NABBIT, BOY, IMMA GIT MY SHOTGUN IF YOUS TOUCH MAI DUTTER!!!1" is certainly an expected reaction, but not something that should define the position of our justice system?

It just bothers the hell out of me that people are calling her a stupid slut etc..

No one is calling the boys stupid sluts..even though they did the same exact shit...

oh those poor boys just wanted to do some fucking on camera..so sweet..that damn whore is the one who is causing all the problems

I also think there is something seriously wrong with the idea that its OK for people to send videos of each other having sex (assuming the person didnt ASK you to send it out)

I have no idea if she actually wanted to be taped , but what I do know is that if I had taped myself having sex with someone, I sure as hell wouldn't have sent it out..especially not at that age.. Its just wrong. Are you claiming that she WANTED the video sent out to the public?
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
So... everyone's in agreement, then, that "DAG NABBIT, BOY, IMMA GIT MY SHOTGUN IF YOUS TOUCH MAI DUTTER!!!1" is certainly an expected reaction, but not something that should define the position of our justice system?

It just bothers the hell out of me that people are calling her a stupid slut etc..

No one is calling the boys stupid sluts..even though they did the same exact shit...

oh those poor boys just wanted to do some fucking on camera..so sweet..that damn whore is the one who is causing all the problems
Teenage boys are stupid sluts by definition. Calling them this would be redundant.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
"Sexting" Shockingly Common Among Teens


(CBS/ AP) While it may be shocking, the practice of "sexting" - sending nude pictures via text message - is not unusual, especially for high schoolers around the country.

This week, three teenage girls who allegedly sent nude or semi-nude cell phone pictures of themselves, and three male classmates in a western Pennsylvania high school who received them, are charged with child pornography.

In October a Texas eighth-grader spent the night in a juvenile detention center after his football coach found a nude picture on his cell phone that a fellow student sent him.

Roughly 20 percent of teens admit to participating in "sexting," according to a nationwide survey (pdf) by the National Campaign to Support Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy.

"This is a serious felony. They could be facing many years in prison," CBS News legal analyst Lisa Bloom said of the six teens in Pennsylvania.

<But, Bloom added, "What are we going to do, lock up 20 percent of America's teens?"

Police in Greensburg, about 30 miles east of Pittsburgh, say the girls are 14 or 15 and the boys charged with receiving the photos are 16 or 17. None are being identified because most criminal cases in Pennsylvania juvenile courts are not public.

Police say they first learned about the pictures in October. They say a student had a phone turned on in class, a violation of school policy, which prompted an administrator to confiscate the phone and subsequently find the pictures, reports CBS station


Teen "Sexting" Worries Parents, Schools

Though youth is fleeting, images sent on a cell phone or posted online may not be, especially if they're naughty.

Teenagers' habit of distributing nude self-portraits electronically - often called "sexting" if it's done by cell phone - has parents and school administrators worried. Some prosecutors have begun charging teens who send and receive such images with child pornography and other serious felonies. But is that the best way to handle it?

"Hopefully we'll get the message out to these kids," says Michael McAlexander, a prosecutor in Allen County, Ind., which includes Fort Wayne. A teenage boy there is facing felony obscenity charges for allegedly sending a photo of his private parts to several female classmates. Another boy was recently charged with child pornography in a similar case.

In some cases, the photos are sent to harass other teens or to get attention. Other times, they're viewed as a high-tech way to flirt. Either way, law enforcement officials want it to stop, even if it means threatening to add "sex offender" to a juvenile's confidential record.

"We don't want to throw these kids in jail," McAlexander says. "But we want them to think."

This month in Greensburg, Pa., three high school girls who sent seminude photos and four male students who received them were all hit with child pornography charges. And in Newark, Ohio, a 15-year-old high school girl faced similar charges for sending her own racy cell phone photos to classmates. She eventually agreed to a curfew, no cell phone and no unsupervised Internet usage over the next few months. If she complies, the charges will be dropped.

In Pennsylvania, all but one of the students accepted a lesser misdemeanor charge, partly to avoid a trial and further embarrassment, a public defender in the case said. The mother of one boy is considering fighting all charges.

Whatever the outcome, the mere fact that child pornography charges were filed at all is stirring debate among students and adults.

At Greensburg-Salem High School in Pennsylvania, junior Jamie Bennish says she's not sure the boys in her school's case should've been charged.

"They did not necessarily choose to receive the pictures, although I find it questionable that they did not delete the photos from their cell phones after some period of time," she says. "As for the girls, there is no excuse for exposing yourself in that way, and any charges they receive they have brought upon themselves."

Dante Bertani, chief public defender in Westmoreland County, Pa., where the students went to court, called the felony charges "horrendous." He says such treatment should be reserved for sex offenders, not teenagers who might've used poor judgment, but meant nothing malicious.

"It should be an issue between the school, the parents and the kids - and primarily the parents and the kids," Bertani says. "It's not something that should be going through the criminal system."

These cases do pose a dilemma, concedes Wes Weaver, the principal at Licking Valley High School, where the Ohio girl attends school.

He agrees that pornography charges or other felonies are not appropriate, noting that "the laws have not caught up to technology."

But he says there has to be some way to educate students and their parents about the harm these photos can do - and the fact that, once they're out there, they often get widely circulated. Days before his staff discovered the girl's nude photos, the county prosecutor had been at the school to warn students against sexting.

"I don't think we're anywhere near having a handle on this," Weaver says. "It's beyond our scope as a school."

Parents are also often at a loss.

Some companies, such as WebSafety Inc., have developed software that parents can use to monitor certain activity on cell phones and computers. They can, for instance, block X-rated texting terms or be alerted when their child is using them, says Mike Adler, the company's CEO.

Photos are trickier, though, and often require a parent to manually check a child's phone.

And that's OK to do, says Dr. Terri Randall, an adolescent psychiatrist in Philadelphia.

"It could be part of the contract of having a cell phone, that you really don't get 100 percent privacy. It's just one more way of keeping track, like knowing what your kid is doing and where they are," says Randall, who's also an instructor at Jefferson Medical College.

Randall says she's seeing more issues related to sexting, especially as cell phones with cameras have become standard. One mother brought her daughter in to be psychologically evaluated after finding provocative cell phone photos of the girl.

Other patients tell Randall how sexting and texting explicit messages has caused relationship problems, especially after a breakup, when photos might be distributed out of spite, for instance.

So she reminds her young patients: "Even though it seems like fun and so exciting right now, that person may not always feel the same way about you. And you may not feel the same way about that person either."

But is it porn? That's questionable, she and others say.

Certainly, technology makes it easier to do and say things we might not do in person, says Amanda Lenhart, a senior researcher with the Pew Internet & American Life Project.

"But ultimately," she says, "I think this is merely another case of technology extending an activity or action that young people have engaged in for years, if not beyond that."


How about we just make it illegal to have a cell phone with a camera until you turn 21, worked with alcohol so I'm sure it will work with this.

I keep coming back to the following absurdity:

Two 16 year-olds have wild sex with each other on an ongoing basis. The two of them constantly see each other nude in various seductive poses, and enjoy each other physically to the fullest: The authorities may not like it, but there's nothing illegal going on, and nothing they can do about it.

A year into their sexual relationship, one of the 16-year-olds sexts a nude cell-phone photo of herself to the sex partner, who knowingly opens and enjoys it. Now the authorities charge each of them with child pornography.

So seeing each other nude in the flesh - and engaging in sex - is fine and dandy. But seeing an almost certainly LESS-revealing nude-photo of the same person is a felony.

 

LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
So... everyone's in agreement, then, that "DAG NABBIT, BOY, IMMA GIT MY SHOTGUN IF YOUS TOUCH MAI DUTTER!!!1" is certainly an expected reaction, but not something that should define the position of our justice system?

It just bothers the hell out of me that people are calling her a stupid slut etc..

No one is calling the boys stupid sluts..even though they did the same exact shit...

oh those poor boys just wanted to do some fucking on camera..so sweet..that damn whore is the one who is causing all the problems
Teenage boys are stupid sluts by definition. Calling them this would be redundant.

I wouldnt say it that way, but I get your point. But why is there no hatred for young boy's slutiness in pop culture and when girls do it ..it enrages people?
 

AFMatt

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Regardless of her knowing or not, or if kids should be having sex, etc.. Is it, or is it not illegal to distribute material of minors having sex? Regardless of your age, or how it was done, it is illegal.

With that, they sent this video around. So if this video ends up on some adult's computer, and/or some child porn networks, should the people involved not be charged for having child porn because it was consensual sex between minors, they knowingly sent it out, and the kids were let off (if they are let off)?
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
So... everyone's in agreement, then, that "DAG NABBIT, BOY, IMMA GIT MY SHOTGUN IF YOUS TOUCH MAI DUTTER!!!1" is certainly an expected reaction, but not something that should define the position of our justice system?

It just bothers the hell out of me that people are calling her a stupid slut etc..

No one is calling the boys stupid sluts..even though they did the same exact shit...

oh those poor boys just wanted to do some fucking on camera..so sweet..that damn whore is the one who is causing all the problems
Teenage boys are stupid sluts by definition. Calling them this would be redundant.

I wouldnt say it that way, but I get your point. But why is there no hatred for young boy's slutiness in pop culture and when girls do it ..it enrages people?
Because this is expected of boys - "boys will be boys". Girls are expected to uphold the decency standards. The problem is that these standards are changing but not at the same rate for all segments of the population. Middle-aged police chiefs and assistant district attorneys are pissed that they missed out on the permissive times and will attempt to prevent others from such "deviancy". It's a new world as a result of technology and the authority establishment isn't quite sure how to preserve their fiefdoms.

Now, if you believe all of this, I have a newsletter and for $500/year...

Anyway, some of this is probably right and you can do the research on current societal mores to determine which.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
"Sexting" Shockingly Common Among Teens


(CBS/ AP) While it may be shocking, the practice of "sexting" - sending nude pictures via text message - is not unusual, especially for high schoolers around the country.

This week, three teenage girls who allegedly sent nude or semi-nude cell phone pictures of themselves, and three male classmates in a western Pennsylvania high school who received them, are charged with child pornography.

In October a Texas eighth-grader spent the night in a juvenile detention center after his football coach found a nude picture on his cell phone that a fellow student sent him.

Roughly 20 percent of teens admit to participating in "sexting," according to a nationwide survey (pdf) by the National Campaign to Support Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy.

"This is a serious felony. They could be facing many years in prison," CBS News legal analyst Lisa Bloom said of the six teens in Pennsylvania.

<But, Bloom added, "What are we going to do, lock up 20 percent of America's teens?"

Police in Greensburg, about 30 miles east of Pittsburgh, say the girls are 14 or 15 and the boys charged with receiving the photos are 16 or 17. None are being identified because most criminal cases in Pennsylvania juvenile courts are not public.

Police say they first learned about the pictures in October. They say a student had a phone turned on in class, a violation of school policy, which prompted an administrator to confiscate the phone and subsequently find the pictures, reports CBS station


Teen "Sexting" Worries Parents, Schools

Though youth is fleeting, images sent on a cell phone or posted online may not be, especially if they're naughty.

Teenagers' habit of distributing nude self-portraits electronically - often called "sexting" if it's done by cell phone - has parents and school administrators worried. Some prosecutors have begun charging teens who send and receive such images with child pornography and other serious felonies. But is that the best way to handle it?

"Hopefully we'll get the message out to these kids," says Michael McAlexander, a prosecutor in Allen County, Ind., which includes Fort Wayne. A teenage boy there is facing felony obscenity charges for allegedly sending a photo of his private parts to several female classmates. Another boy was recently charged with child pornography in a similar case.

In some cases, the photos are sent to harass other teens or to get attention. Other times, they're viewed as a high-tech way to flirt. Either way, law enforcement officials want it to stop, even if it means threatening to add "sex offender" to a juvenile's confidential record.

"We don't want to throw these kids in jail," McAlexander says. "But we want them to think."

This month in Greensburg, Pa., three high school girls who sent seminude photos and four male students who received them were all hit with child pornography charges. And in Newark, Ohio, a 15-year-old high school girl faced similar charges for sending her own racy cell phone photos to classmates. She eventually agreed to a curfew, no cell phone and no unsupervised Internet usage over the next few months. If she complies, the charges will be dropped.

In Pennsylvania, all but one of the students accepted a lesser misdemeanor charge, partly to avoid a trial and further embarrassment, a public defender in the case said. The mother of one boy is considering fighting all charges.

Whatever the outcome, the mere fact that child pornography charges were filed at all is stirring debate among students and adults.

At Greensburg-Salem High School in Pennsylvania, junior Jamie Bennish says she's not sure the boys in her school's case should've been charged.

"They did not necessarily choose to receive the pictures, although I find it questionable that they did not delete the photos from their cell phones after some period of time," she says. "As for the girls, there is no excuse for exposing yourself in that way, and any charges they receive they have brought upon themselves."

Dante Bertani, chief public defender in Westmoreland County, Pa., where the students went to court, called the felony charges "horrendous." He says such treatment should be reserved for sex offenders, not teenagers who might've used poor judgment, but meant nothing malicious.

"It should be an issue between the school, the parents and the kids - and primarily the parents and the kids," Bertani says. "It's not something that should be going through the criminal system."

These cases do pose a dilemma, concedes Wes Weaver, the principal at Licking Valley High School, where the Ohio girl attends school.

He agrees that pornography charges or other felonies are not appropriate, noting that "the laws have not caught up to technology."

But he says there has to be some way to educate students and their parents about the harm these photos can do - and the fact that, once they're out there, they often get widely circulated. Days before his staff discovered the girl's nude photos, the county prosecutor had been at the school to warn students against sexting.

"I don't think we're anywhere near having a handle on this," Weaver says. "It's beyond our scope as a school."

Parents are also often at a loss.

Some companies, such as WebSafety Inc., have developed software that parents can use to monitor certain activity on cell phones and computers. They can, for instance, block X-rated texting terms or be alerted when their child is using them, says Mike Adler, the company's CEO.

Photos are trickier, though, and often require a parent to manually check a child's phone.

And that's OK to do, says Dr. Terri Randall, an adolescent psychiatrist in Philadelphia.

"It could be part of the contract of having a cell phone, that you really don't get 100 percent privacy. It's just one more way of keeping track, like knowing what your kid is doing and where they are," says Randall, who's also an instructor at Jefferson Medical College.

Randall says she's seeing more issues related to sexting, especially as cell phones with cameras have become standard. One mother brought her daughter in to be psychologically evaluated after finding provocative cell phone photos of the girl.

Other patients tell Randall how sexting and texting explicit messages has caused relationship problems, especially after a breakup, when photos might be distributed out of spite, for instance.

So she reminds her young patients: "Even though it seems like fun and so exciting right now, that person may not always feel the same way about you. And you may not feel the same way about that person either."

But is it porn? That's questionable, she and others say.

Certainly, technology makes it easier to do and say things we might not do in person, says Amanda Lenhart, a senior researcher with the Pew Internet & American Life Project.

"But ultimately," she says, "I think this is merely another case of technology extending an activity or action that young people have engaged in for years, if not beyond that."


How about we just make it illegal to have a cell phone with a camera until you turn 21, worked with alcohol so I'm sure it will work with this.

*sarcasm?
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: shira

I keep coming back to the following absurdity:

Two 16 year-olds have wild sex with each other on an ongoing basis. The two of them constantly see each other nude in various seductive poses, and enjoy each other physically to the fullest: The authorities may not like it, but there's nothing illegal going on, and nothing they can do about it.

A year into their sexual relationship, one of the 16-year-olds sexts a nude cell-phone photo of herself to the sex partner, who knowingly opens and enjoys it. Now the authorities charge each of them with child pornography.

So seeing each other nude in the flesh - and engaging in sex - is fine and dandy. But seeing an almost certainly LESS-revealing nude-photo of the same person is a felony.

Solution is simple: create new misdemeanor charges like Possession of Indecent Exposure and Distributed Indecent Exposure for minors. That way they aren't hit with kiddie pr0n felonies but still punished.

 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

^^^^
1) could be valid don't know MA law
2) Not relevant what she wanted done with the tape.
3) Think your giving the boys too much credit and there isn't a rape charge.

1.) According to the article she says she didn't know she was being taped.

The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone.

2.) WTF, don't you have a brain or are you one of those thinking with their dicks??

The video was then distributed among students at Holbrook Junior-Senior High School, police said, and the charges that may be leveled against the teens are serious as the forwarding of such a video, also known as "sexting," is a felony offense.

3.) I'm not giving the bous ANY credit. They were idiots and deserve whatever charges happen to apply to them.

The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone.

1) MA law might not extend "wiretapping" laws to video surveillance inside a private residence. The material on the video surveillance is irrelevant in the context of "wiretapping"

2) sexting is a ridiculous law. Kids can have sex legally. Kids can video tape legally. Why should it be felony to record it and share with friends. Should it be illegal? Probably but not a felony. Felony has far reaching implications that some dumb high school kids shouldn't' have to ruin their lives over.

3) Just because someone is hiding in the closet with a camera doesn't mean she was drugged and raped dude. There is a big difference your jumping to silly conclusions.

I'm not condoning this just giving a different view point.

1.) So I can put a secret video camera in my guest room and film whatever my guest do without there knowledge or consent?

2.) So I can share my guest room video with whoever I want?

3.) We don't know that she wasn't drugged/drunk either. For all we know she was a 14 year old virgn.
 

PaperclipGod

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech

It just bothers the hell out of me that people are calling her a stupid slut etc..

No one is calling the boys stupid sluts..even though they did the same exact shit...

oh those poor boys just wanted to do some fucking on camera..so sweet..that damn whore is the one who is causing all the problems

I also think there is something seriously wrong with the idea that its OK for people to send videos of each other having sex (assuming the person didnt ASK you to send it out)

I have no idea if she actually wanted to be taped , but what I do know is that if I had taped myself having sex with someone, I sure as hell wouldn't have sent it out..especially not at that age.. Its just wrong. Are you claiming that she WANTED the video sent out to the public?

Yeah, but it's just the culture we live in. Girls are expected to remain innocent virgins, and boys are expected to hump anything with a hole. The genders have always had to deal with differing expectations and perceived roles.

As to the actual taping of the event... well, it's easy for you and I to say "I never would have done that!" now that we're no longer teenagers. Hormones can really screw with your priorities and reasoning, though. When you're that age, your body is doing everythinng it can to keep you focused on sex and reproduction, whether you're a boy or a girl. Now that you and I are beyond those years, it's easy to look back with our current, more mature mentality and say we would have done things differently... but it's not really a fair comparison. "Hindsight is 20/20."

I'm not claiming she wanted the video sent out, but I also don't think you can claim she DIDN'T want it sent out. Every generation of teenagers does stuff that the adults think is dumb, immature, or irresponsible. That's why we call them kids.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

I'm not claiming she wanted the video sent out, but I also don't think you can claim she DIDN'T want it sent out. Every generation of teenagers does stuff that the adults think is dumb, immature, or irresponsible. That's why we call them kids.

So explain to me what it is you think the girl has to gain by having other people view the video?

Taping her without her knowledge was wrong, but sharing it with the whole high school was wrong, wrong, wrong. I can't believe anybody would even attempt to justify that act?
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

I'm not claiming she wanted the video sent out, but I also don't think you can claim she DIDN'T want it sent out. Every generation of teenagers does stuff that the adults think is dumb, immature, or irresponsible. That's why we call them kids.

So explain to me what it is you think the girl has to gain by having other people view the video?

Taping her without her knowledge was wrong, but sharing it with the whole high school was wrong, wrong, wrong. I can't believe anybody would even attempt to justify that act?

Show me where that has been proven.
There was a 3rd person holding a phone, did she not think it was being recorded and on top of that get seen by others?
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

I'm not claiming she wanted the video sent out, but I also don't think you can claim she DIDN'T want it sent out. Every generation of teenagers does stuff that the adults think is dumb, immature, or irresponsible. That's why we call them kids.

So explain to me what it is you think the girl has to gain by having other people view the video?

Taping her without her knowledge was wrong, but sharing it with the whole high school was wrong, wrong, wrong. I can't believe anybody would even attempt to justify that act?

Show me where that has been proven.
There was a 3rd person holding a phone, did she not think it was being recorded and on top of that get seen by others?



The very fact that she says she didn't know it was being recorded is all the proof I need. Now you prove her a liar.

Police said the video was taken at a home, not at the school. The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone. She went to police with her parents when she realized the video was circulating.
 

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

I'm not claiming she wanted the video sent out, but I also don't think you can claim she DIDN'T want it sent out. Every generation of teenagers does stuff that the adults think is dumb, immature, or irresponsible. That's why we call them kids.

So explain to me what it is you think the girl has to gain by having other people view the video?

Taping her without her knowledge was wrong, but sharing it with the whole high school was wrong, wrong, wrong. I can't believe anybody would even attempt to justify that act?

Show me where that has been proven.
There was a 3rd person holding a phone, did she not think it was being recorded and on top of that get seen by others?

If the cell phone video shows that she looked at/into the phone; there is the proof



The very fact that she says she didn't know it was being recorded is all the proof I need. Now you prove her a liar.

Police said the video was taken at a home, not at the school. The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone. She went to police with her parents when she realized the video was circulating.

 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

I'm not claiming she wanted the video sent out, but I also don't think you can claim she DIDN'T want it sent out. Every generation of teenagers does stuff that the adults think is dumb, immature, or irresponsible. That's why we call them kids.

So explain to me what it is you think the girl has to gain by having other people view the video?

Taping her without her knowledge was wrong, but sharing it with the whole high school was wrong, wrong, wrong. I can't believe anybody would even attempt to justify that act?

Show me where that has been proven.
There was a 3rd person holding a phone, did she not think it was being recorded and on top of that get seen by others?



The very fact that she says she didn't know it was being recorded is all the proof I need. Now you prove her a liar.

Police said the video was taken at a home, not at the school. The alleged victim, a girl under 16, told them she did not realize she was being captured on cell phone. She went to police with her parents when she realized the video was circulating.
If the cell phone video shows that she looked at/into the phone; there is the proof


No, but if she looked at the camera and said, "Look Ma, no hands!!" then you would have a point.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: shira

I keep coming back to the following absurdity:

Two 16 year-olds have wild sex with each other on an ongoing basis. The two of them constantly see each other nude in various seductive poses, and enjoy each other physically to the fullest: The authorities may not like it, but there's nothing illegal going on, and nothing they can do about it.

A year into their sexual relationship, one of the 16-year-olds sexts a nude cell-phone photo of herself to the sex partner, who knowingly opens and enjoys it. Now the authorities charge each of them with child pornography.

So seeing each other nude in the flesh - and engaging in sex - is fine and dandy. But seeing an almost certainly LESS-revealing nude-photo of the same person is a felony.

Solution is simple: create new misdemeanor charges like Possession of Indecent Exposure and Distributed Indecent Exposure for minors. That way they aren't hit with kiddie pr0n felonies but still punished.

Won't work, because then overzealous prosecutors won't be able to say "I've put away x number of dangerous, perverted sex offenders, which means I'm really really tough on crime so vote for me!"
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: LumbergTech

It just bothers the hell out of me that people are calling her a stupid slut etc..

No one is calling the boys stupid sluts..even though they did the same exact shit...

oh those poor boys just wanted to do some fucking on camera..so sweet..that damn whore is the one who is causing all the problems

I also think there is something seriously wrong with the idea that its OK for people to send videos of each other having sex (assuming the person didnt ASK you to send it out)

I have no idea if she actually wanted to be taped , but what I do know is that if I had taped myself having sex with someone, I sure as hell wouldn't have sent it out..especially not at that age.. Its just wrong. Are you claiming that she WANTED the video sent out to the public?

Yeah, but it's just the culture we live in. Girls are expected to remain innocent virgins, and boys are expected to hump anything with a hole. The genders have always had to deal with differing expectations and perceived roles.

Not anymore, thats not true. Teen girls are sexualized, by themselves alot of the time, so although we as a society "SAY" they should remain pure, our actions speak differently. It doesnt take many Lifetime movies or prime time TV shows to realize without saying it we condone teen drug use, drinking, and sex. Hell. Look at the rise of "jailbait" type web sites. I havent done any research, but Ive seen enough to know teen girls have no problems exposing themselves and showing the world they are sex objects.
 

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: 1prophet
"Sexting" Shockingly Common Among Teens




How about we just make it illegal to have a cell phone with a camera until you turn 21, worked with alcohol so I'm sure it will work with this.

*sarcasm?

Yes it's sarcasm, next time I'll put one of these;)

The point I am trying to make is we glamorize drinking in movies, television, college parties, etc. but somehow because someone threatens teenagers with a law it will stop all those under 21,

likewise we glamorize sex today in movies, television, (plus any teenager can get any type of porn online filters be damned) etc. for the sake of profits, plus the social stigma of being a virgin but somehow we will use child pornography laws to stop it from spreading on the internet through camera phones and punish children with laws meant for adults.

Unless the underlying culture and mentality is addressed that makes kids think it's cool to expose themselves like their favorite celebrities or porn stars on video or pictures no law is going to stop this and it will become commonplace.