3 israeli teenagers found dead....

[Orignal Earl]

The truth is that Zebo has a huge point!! There is humongous truth in those statements!!

Do you realize you Breivik clones are considered Terrorists the world over?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Earl it depends which criteria you want to use before you call a muslim radical thats why I encouraged you to read those reports. I consider Sharia law radical and barbaric and huge majorities support it but Instead I'm talking about AQ supporters.

That's just extreme ignorance on your part
100% of Muslims follow Sharia

Have a favorable opinion of AQ?
90% of those asked in Bangladesh probably have no idea who AQ is

 

[Zebo]

I misquoted nor misrepresented nothing:



That was Zebo's fully hateful, supremacist, and bigoted portrayal of all Muslims.

Hate speech. To be responsibly and fully condemned by the community as has been justly derided upon Geosurface and Northern Lawn.

Did I say all Muslims? No you interpret it. Obviously talking about ones holding place hostage.

 

[Zebo]

That's just extreme ignorance on your part
100% of Muslims follow Sharia

Have a favorable opinion of AQ?
90% of those asked in Bangladesh probably have no idea who AQ is

BS they dont cut you hand off in most countries for theft like sharia demands.

 

[Orignal Earl]

There are over 50 Muslim majority countries, they only used 13 in the survey.
Then there is the millions who don't live in majority countries

Your 15-20% is a joke

 

[Orignal Earl]

BS they dont cut you hand off in most countries for theft like sharia demands.

Every Muslim follows Sharia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

There is what 2 countries where they cut your hand off?

 

[Zebo]

Every Muslim follows Sharia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

There is what 2 countries where they cut your hand off?

100% lol No they don't read the pew study instead of being ignorant. And people accused me of generalizing.

 

[Dari]

Earl it depends which criteria you want to use before you call a muslim radical thats why I encouraged you to read those reports. I consider Sharia law radical and barbaric and huge majorities support it but Instead I'm talking about AQ supporters.

So, you're saying that, based on this poll, 15-20% of all muslims are extremists? Really?

 

[Orignal Earl]

100% lol No they don't read the pew study instead of being ignorant. And people accused me of generalizing.

No...
You are taking extreme examples of Sharia law, the worst of the worst, and applying to all Muslims
American Muslims use Sharia law for example in divorce cases or in business
Catholics use their religious courts and Jews do too

 

[Orignal Earl]

100% lol No they don't read the pew study instead of being ignorant. And people accused me of generalizing.

Tell me how someone can be Muslim and not follow Sharia then

Sharia (Islamic law) deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, everyday etiquette and fasting. Adherence to Islamic law has served as one of the distinguishing characteristics of the Muslim faith historically, and through the centuries Muslims have devoted much scholarly time and effort on its elaboration.[5] Human interpretations of sharia (fiqh) vary between Islamic sects and respective schools of jurisprudence, yet in its strictest and most historically coherent definition, sharia is considered the infallible law of God.

The country in the world most faithful to the values of the Koran is Ireland according to an Iranian-born academic at George Washingon University in the US. Next are Denmark, Sweden and the UK.

Israel more compliant with ideals of the Koran than any predominantly Muslim country according to study

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...osest-to-islamic-economic-teachings-1.1826354

 

[Zebo]

So, you're saying that, based on this poll, 15-20% of all muslims are extremists? Really?

At least. More data to make up your own mind.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ls-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam...imjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian Muslims Poll Nov 04/Guardian Muslims Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

 

[JEDIYoda]

No...
You are taking extreme examples of Sharia law, the worst of the worst, and applying to all Muslims
American Muslims use Sharia law for example in divorce cases or in business
Catholics use their religious courts and Jews do too

all fallacious arguments.....

In a Jewish or a Catholic court they don`t cut your hand off for stealing or kill you if you have been raped......

 

[Orignal Earl]

snip

You notice most of your polls involve DEFENDING Islam

You try and take away peoples religion, your going to get 15-20% saying extreme measures would be justified

 

[Orignal Earl]

all fallacious arguments.....

In a Jewish or a Catholic court they don`t cut your hand off for stealing or kill you if you have been raped......

Oh lord........
How many hands have Muslims in America cut off?

 

[Whiskey16]

Did I say all Muslims? No you interpret it.

I returned your BS with a fully quoted post where you railed specifically against "MUSLIMS." You are caught in a lie:

Other than that Muslims behead on live TV, rape little girls, execute prisoners en masse, blow themselves up, mostly killing other Muslims but especially minorities, lying, and praying to a phony prophet who advocated killing infidels. Scum [Muslims] of the earth that produces nothing of any redeeming qualities except death and destruction in ME.

Let's take your posting history a little further Zebo:

Islam is radical and incompatible with modern world if you take a fundamentalist interpretation. Muslims say it themselves. I'm not sure how we will reconcile this situation. Prolly Nuclear Armageddon.

That is Zebo call for genocide to kill all Muslims.

A mistype, by him, or me taking him out of context? No:

Lets kill the attendance of the poison and fairy tales Mosques tech too if you want world peace.

That is Zebo's more direct call to kill all Muslims who attend Mosques.

I recall societies that did kill the attendance of synagogues. Zebo is on par.

For the AnandTech community, this character, Zebo, is categorically among the most vile and extremist active members present at this forum. Through hateful bigotry, Zebo has identified the target to kill. By his own words, he is a proponent of terrorism.

Such publications of extremism lends a publisher party to incitement to terrorism. That's how little regard Zebo lends to human life, this community, and law.

 

[Whiskey16]

The truth is that Zebo has a huge point!! There is humongous truth in those statements!!

The record currently stands, of JEDIYoda fully supporting and aligning in bigotry and hatred of Muslims, and of Zebo's open terrorist incitement to kill them.

JEDIYoda, you have an opportunity to make a correction to distance yourself or not.

 

[Zebo]

I returned your BS with a fully quoted post where you railed specifically against "MUSLIMS." You are caught in a lie:



Let's take your posting history a little further Zebo:



That is Zebo call for genocide to kill all Muslims.

A mistype, by him, or me taking him out of context? No:



That is Zebo's more direct call to kill all Muslims who attend Mosques.

I recall societies that did kill the attendance of synagogues. Zebo is on par.

For the AnandTech community, this character, Zebo, is categorically among the most vile and extremist active members present at this forum. Through hateful bigotry, Zebo has identified the target to kill. By his own words, he is a proponent of terrorism.

Such publications of extremism lends a publisher party to incitement to terrorism. That's how little regard Zebo lends to human life, this community, and law.

Dude I mean the radical teachings and radical groups like ISIS need to disappear. Sorry if you take it the wrong way. Majority of muslims are peaceful. Thats not the ones the world is having problems with are they?

 

[Victorian Gray]

coming from our resident Muslim apologist....

How odd. I've never seen him "apologize" for Muslims. When did he do that I wonder?

 

[Whiskey16]

You're dishonestly backtracking, now, Zebo.

I correctly quoted what you have said on multiple occasions. You made no differentiation -- rather you simply rally against 'Muslims.'

Categorically, you wistfully condemned Muslims to death.

Another current example of your quite consistent lumping all Muslims together, was a few pages back with a denunciation of Islam, as a religion, and classifying it as a dangerous and critically infectious disease:

...until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam. Thats why they dont produce shit today in muslim world. Once infected they are fucked.

We should all recall propaganda of past ages classifying the Jewish religion and Jews as a disease to be eradicated.

We have Zebo unequivocally stating Islam to be a disease and to "kill the attendance" of Mosques to achieve "world peace."

These are hatefully violent extremist incitements on par with other terrorists such as Ander's Breivik and should absolutely face zero tolerance in a civilised community.

Let the community decide based upon the cited and concise hatefully bigoted record of your writings, or your current desperate face-facing spin now.

 

[Zebo]

You're dishonestly backtracking, now, Zebo.

I correctly quoted what you have said on multiple occasions. You made no differentiation -- rather you simply rally against 'Muslims.'

Categorically, you wistfully condemned Muslims to death.

Another current example of your quite consistent lumping all Muslims together, was a few pages back with a denunciation of Islam, as a religion, and classifying it as a dangerous and critically infectious disease:

We should all recall propaganda of past ages classifying the Jewish religion and Jews as a disease to be eradicated.

We have Zebo unequivocally stating Islam to be a disease and to "kill the attendance" of Mosques to achieve "world peace."

These are hatefully violent extremist incitements on par with other terrorists such as Ander's Breivik and should absolutely face zero tolerance in a civilised community.

Let the community decide based upon the cited and concise hatefully bigoted record of your writings, or your current desperate face-facing spin now.

I said kill the attendance, not the attendees. I dislike much of what is taught as part of radical islam (the poison and fairly tale) part of this religion. I'd like to see a decrease in muslim faith, especially extremist followers, the same way the decrease in church attendance here in the US and Europe have made for less extremeish among Christians and Jews.

I probably overstated my points, but I do not advocate genocide or even killing individuals. I just get frustrated that extreme followers of Islam call for and create so much hate and violence. But the response is not and should not be more of the same.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I just get frustrated that extreme followers of Islam call for and create so much hate and violence.

If watching vids of ISIS makes you into one of them, then turn it off
It really is that simple

 

[Zebo]

If watching vids of ISIS makes you into one of them, then turn it off
It really is that simple

It's front page news @ google every day.

The problem is they (and groups like them) make the Muslim world backward and violent today so it's hard to ignore. Most Muslims want to live in peace, go to university, live normally like everyone else but the extremist Muslims force everyone into 7th century because they have the guns and are willing to use them. By far the most victims of terror are Muslims by other Muslims. Everywhere from Algeria to Indonesia.

 

[Orignal Earl]

It's front page news @ google every day.

The problem is they (and groups like them) make the Muslim world backward and violent today so it's hard to ignore. Most Muslims want to live in peace, go to university, live normally like everyone else but the extremist Muslims force everyone into 7th century because they have the guns and are willing to use them. By far the most victims of terror are Muslims by other Muslims. Everywhere from Algeria to Indonesia.

Your google news must be very different then my google news
I've even searched the hell out of google for everything Islam and terror groups.
You can still scroll past all those ones

There were two white christian men, Adam and Jack, whose plane crashed into a desert. Luckily they survived unharmed. As they traveled through the hot desert looking for food and water, they gave up and sat down, thinking of what to do.
As the dust in the air settled, they suddenly could view a mosque ahead. They became very hopeful. But then Adam said ''Muslims are there. They might help us if we say we are muslim.'' Then Jack said ''No way, I won't say I'm muslim, I'm gonna be honest''.
So Adam and Jack went to the Mosque ahead and were greeted by an Arab Muslim, who asked what their names were.
Adam thought of a Muslim name and said, 'My name is Muhammed'. And Jack said 'My name is Jack'.
The Arab man said 'Hello Jack.' And told these other men to take Jack and give him food and drink.
Then he turned to Adam and said, 'Salaam Muhammed. Ramadan Mubarak! (Hello Muhammad, Happy Ramadhan)

 

[Victorian Gray]

Your google news must be very different then my google news
I've even searched the hell out of google for everything Islam and terror groups.
You can still scroll past all those ones

There were two white christian men, Adam and Jack, whose plane crashed into a desert. Luckily they survived unharmed. As they traveled through the hot desert looking for food and water, they gave up and sat down, thinking of what to do.
As the dust in the air settled, they suddenly could view a mosque ahead. They became very hopeful. But then Adam said ''Muslims are there. They might help us if we say we are muslim.'' Then Jack said ''No way, I won't say I'm muslim, I'm gonna be honest''.
So Adam and Jack went to the Mosque ahead and were greeted by an Arab Muslim, who asked what their names were.
Adam thought of a Muslim name and said, 'My name is Muhammed'. And Jack said 'My name is Jack'.
The Arab man said 'Hello Jack.' And told these other men to take Jack and give him food and drink.
Then he turned to Adam and said, 'Salaam Muhammed. Ramadan Mubarak! (Hello Muhammad, Happy Ramadhan)

I laughed.

As did several of my Muslim co-workers when I showed it to them.

Maybe they're just being sneaky and won't cut off my head until I'm not looking...

 

[squarecut1]

Haha.... That was a good one