3 israeli teenagers found dead....

[cabri]

If Hamas says the charter is no longer relevant today, it does not matter what it said.
Jesus.. I don't want to defend Hamas but you should get your story straight and up to date

If Hamas is not interested in destroying Israel, then why the continuing attacks instead of trying to show that they can be responsible?

Could it be that Israel retaliation gives Hamas an excuse for their militant wing and deflects from the conditions that they cause.

The West Bank lives in better conditions than Gaza; the difference is that Gaza is controlled by Hamas.

 

[Orignal Earl]

If Hamas is not interested in destroying Israel, then why the continuing attacks instead of trying to show that they can be responsible?

Could it be that Israel retaliation gives Hamas an excuse for their militant wing and deflects from the conditions that they cause.

The West Bank lives in better conditions than Gaza; the difference is that Gaza is controlled by Hamas.

Almost a 1/4 of the US list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations are from the Palestinian Territories.
I wonder if Hamas takes the shit for most of them

 

[cabri]

Almost a 1/4 of the US list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations are from the Palestinian Territories.
I wonder if Hamas takes the shit for most of them

Hamas rules/controls Gaza with an iron choke collar.

Nothing goes in/out without them knowing and taking a price.
Legit materials and/or smuggled materials - a tithe is paid.

When Hamas was active in the West Bank; the same held true there with the militants & PLO but to a lessor extent; larger border.

/edit rephrasing

 

[Victorian Gray]

Hamas rules/controls Gaza with an iron choke collar.

Nothing goes in/out without them knowing and taking a price.
Legit materials and/or smuggled materials - a tithe is paid.

When Hamas was in control of the West Bank; the same held true there but to a lessor extent; larger border

Hamas has never been in control of the West Bank. So, basically, you're making shit up.

 

[cabri]

Hamas has never been in control of the West Bank. So, basically, you're making shit up.

Rephrased :wub:

 

[Jaskalas]

How to avenge the deaths?

Covert agents pinpoint select targets for bombardment. Terrorists die.

 

[Zebo]

Pinpoint? A blind man could make that shot.

I guess in a thread about terrorist muslim hamas killing kids saying "muslim" is confusing so as I used in this thread muslim = muslim extremists.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Hamas rules/controls Gaza with an iron choke collar.

Nothing goes in/out without them knowing and taking a price.
Legit materials and/or smuggled materials - a tithe is paid.

When Hamas was active in the West Bank; the same held true there with the militants & PLO but to a lessor extent; larger border.

/edit rephrasing

That was some crazy editing.
Even Victorian's quote was edited.
The original quote was much different

Pinpoint? A blind man could make that shot.

Seriously?
This whole mess would of been over a longggg time ago if things were as easy as you imagine

 

[brandonb]

As far as these 3 teenagers are concerned the line was crossed!! If it were Palestinian teenagers who were kidnapped and killed I woud also say the line was crossed!!

I didn't see you post on new topic in P&N about this:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/world/meast/mideast-tensions/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Clashes break out after Palestinian teen's body found in Jerusalem

Was the line crossed?

Let me predict the future: Israel will say: "The Palestinian boy was killed by Hamas or other terrorists."

Will there be any global outcry like when the Israeli boys were killed? Probably not.

I suspect there will be silence across the globe.

 

[squarecut1]

Will there be any global outcry like when the Israeli boys were killed? Probably not.

I suspect there will be silence across the globe.

As always. All lives not being equal

 

[Remobz]

I don't have great love for the Israeli Government on a whole but they sure know how to take care of Muslim Terrorists🙂

Israel really knows how to deal with Muslims unlike many other impotent leaders of Western Countries that I won't call names now.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I didn't see you post on new topic in P&N about this:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2

Of course, am I suppose to be awake 24/7 watching the news??

Your link is dated today...duh......or are you just being a smart ass?


If Israel did kill this Palestinian teenager then they also crossed the line!
Yet it truthfully could have been Hamas or the Palestinians trying to cover their asses.....but we will wait and see!!

The bottom line is nothing good will come of this either way!!

It makes no sense to kill Palestinian teenagers in retaliation for the 3 Israeli teens!

The line that was crossed up until now children were not specifically targeted by Hamas....the Palestinians or Israel....

I am not talking about children getting in the way of or being killed due to a military strike or civilians for that matter.

You just do not target children or teenagers!!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Gotta give props to the uncle, they need more people like him in Israel and Palestine.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/world/meast/mideast-tensions/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

The uncle of one of Israeli teens who were abducted and killed made impassioned remarks on Israeli television.

"Any act of revenge of any kind whatsoever is completely inappropriate and wrong. Murder is murder," said Yishai Frankel, uncle of Naftali Frankel, a 16-year-old dual Israeli-American citizen. "One should not differentiate between bloods, be it Arab or Jew.

"This is a forbidden action, and it has no forgiveness," he added in remarks to Israel's Channel 2. "The family issues an unequivocal call: There is no room for revenge, no room for actions of this type. Gladly, we are citizens of a civilized country. Surely the action against the three boys deserves a most severe punishment, but the state should take care of it by law and by no means by people who take the law in their hands."

 

[squarecut1]

I don't have great love for the Israeli Government on a whole but they sure know how to take care of Muslim Terrorists🙂

Israel really knows how to deal with Muslims unlike many other impotent leaders of Western Countries that I won't call names now.

Yup like I said a lot of support for Israel comes from anti Muslim bigotry. Thank you Sir

 

[Orignal Earl]

Is the IDF on that list?

Where is THE PROOF

You all let Israel murder palestinians left and right in these raids..YET Israel has provided no legal proof who killed the boys..NONE yet they get to launch military airstrikes against humans whom the majority are innocent

Talk about emotional suckers we all are

Btw.. How many buildings has the IDF destroyed in occupied territories vs how many so called terrorists have destroyed in Israel

Those people can never recover from the genocidal terrorism by the theft of land for the creation of a homeland for Relious Extremists

Heh
Welcome to the board
I think after a while, I might start to grow on you

 

[Drako]

I think after a while, I might start to grow on you

You're like a fungus. :hmm:

 

[squarecut1]

The good thing is that there is an increasing awareness of Israel's injustice towards Palestinians, despite the financial advantages of the former. The growing boycott Israel movement is proof of that

 

[Remobz]

Yup like I said a lot of support for Israel comes from anti Muslim bigotry. Thank you Sir

I have MANY issues with the Israeli Government and do not support it in many ways. Did you not read that?

Unlike you, I agree with Israel (not afraid to do so) when they kill Muslim terrorists that would slaughter and kill innocent people. Hamas is one of them. Hamas wants me dead and to destroy my way of life. Should I still back Hamas like yourself?

I am sorry but you cannot make me feel sorry for any Muslim terror group in this world hell bent on killing me and my loved ones and destroying our way of life.

 

[Zaap]

Ugh. I hate to say it, but I'm done even giving a shit what happens in this part of the world.
The only thing one can consistently count on from that region is: somone who didn't deserve it IS going to die because one group hates the living guts of another group because /land/religion/sect/don't like your face/revenge for some bullshit that supposedly happpened 2000 years ago/revenge for some bullshit that happened yesterday... etc etc.

Aren't there other groups of people that have interesting spats somewhere else in the world we can all drop everything and get caught up in for a while?

Don't Swedes have a thing against Norwegians? Don't Aussies have a feud with New Zealanders? How about we just leave the Middle East alone to stew to its dark ages and we all go focus reality-show style on whoever else has a spat we can poke our collective noses into?

 

[Orignal Earl]

You're like a fungus. :hmm:

Meh, nothing a little hand sanitizer couldn't take care of

IHamas wants me dead and to destroy my way of life. Should I still back Hamas like yourself?

I am sorry but you cannot make me feel sorry for any Muslim terror group in this world hell bent on killing me and my loved ones and destroying our way of life.

Nebor an officer with the US military, said the same thing about me and my family
Has Hamas has stated to destroy America and your way of life?

 

[Remobz]

Meh, nothing a little hand sanitizer couldn't take care of




Nebor an officer with the US military, said the same thing about me and my family
Has Hamas has stated to destroy America and your way of life?

I am a Roman Catholic and they would kill a Roman Catholic like any other NON-Muslim (infidel) if it suits their needs. My life hold little value to them being Non-Muslim and an infidel.

Its any Western Country and not just America that radical Muslims want to destroy.

Can you safely say that when I travel the world my life will not be in danger? If I go to Israel will I have to fear the Jews or some Muslim terror group trying to kill me? I have many relatives that go to that part of the world for religious reasons.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I am a Roman Catholic and they would kill a Roman Catholic like any other NON-Muslim (infidel) if it suits their needs. My life hold little value to them being Non-Muslim and an infidel.

Its any Western Country and not just America that radical Muslims want to destroy.

Can you safely say that when I travel the world my life will not be in danger? If I go to Israel will I have to fear the Jews or some Muslim terror group trying to kill me? I have many relatives that go to that part of the world for religious reasons.

I was raised Catholic too.
Ah, your talking radical Muslims
The odds of you running into any of them would be very very very low, no matter where you traveled
I've got relatives who travel that part of the world all the time too, from the deepest darkest Africa to all parts of the Middle East. They are devote Christians, missionaries actually. I've got 14 year old nieces who would laugh at some of the shit I've seen grown men fear here.
I've posted pictures here of them surrounded by Muslims in the Middle East.
If your going to Israel, dress modestly if you go through the Orthodox nieghborhoods.
Your travel guide will probably give you all the proper warnings

 

[WelshBloke]

I don't have great love for the Israeli Government on a whole but they sure know how to take care of Muslim Terrorists🙂

Israel really knows how to deal with Muslims unlike many other impotent leaders of Western Countries that I won't call names now.

Yes, Israels methods have brought about a peace to the area that we should all try to emulate... Er wait... Maybe not.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Yes, Israels methods have brought about a peace to the area that we should all try to emulate... Er wait... Maybe not.

strawman.....

Actually Israel`s methods have been exactly what they need to be for the state of Israel to exist!! Deal with it!!

 

[squarecut1]

strawman.....

Actually Israel`s methods have been exactly what they need to be for the state of Israel to exist!! Deal with it!!

A very moral argument. Not

But actually you are right. An apartheid state can only exist employing the methods that Israel does. I appreciate your honesty at least