3% healthcare surcharge at SF restaurants? Are you kidding me SF???

[OneOfTheseDays]

Wow, got charged $2.50 for a "Healthcare Surcharge" tax at a restaurant in SF this weekend. Fuck that shit, last time I ever go into that godforsaken city.

Fucking money grubbing bastards. $6.00 toll to get across the GG bridge, $20 for parking, and now you fuckers want to charge me a 3% tax to give healthcare to the fucking legion of useless bums in your city? Go fuck yourself SF.

 

[zinfamous]

yeah, i was doing a reimbursement for my boss yesterday, and her receipt had a 4% HC surcharge. wtf.

and yes, in SF.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

isn't it a 4% health surcharge?

I remember taking care of my friend's bill at her birthday:

Me: In order to account for the April 1st sales tax increase, the 4% health surcharge, the mandatory 18% gratuity, and to pay for her dinner (and this was with a group of 20+ so distributing her dinner isn't a huge cost... and its a girl... you know how they order small cheap dishes anyway), please take your entree and add 33% to account for all these other charges.

 

[spidey07]

It's a VAT tax in disguise.

 

[drebo]

Here's an idea for people in SF that don't want to deal with this: VOTE NANCY PELOSI THE FUCK OUT OF OFFICE. Then you won't have to deal with bullshit legislation being passed. Seriously, nobody thought that business' increased healthcare costs wouldn't end up coming from the consumers?

 

[rivan]

It's a VAT tax in disguise.

Exactly.

 

[nakedfrog]

isn't it a 4% health surcharge?

I remember taking care of my friend's bill at her birthday:

Me: In order to account for the April 1st sales tax increase, the 4% health surcharge, the mandatory 18% gratuity, and to pay for her dinner (and this was with a group of 20+ so distributing her dinner isn't a huge cost... and its a girl... you know how they order small cheap dishes anyway), please take your entree and add 33% to account for all these other charges.

Whaaaa?
18%?

 

[Train]

STFU, San Fran city council knows whats best for you. If you dont get it, you're obviously some kind of idiot.

 

[rivan]

Here's an idea for people in SF that don't want to deal with this: VOTE NANCY PELOSI THE FUCK OUT OF OFFICE. Then you won't have to deal with bullshit legislation being passed. Seriously, nobody thought that business' increased healthcare costs wouldn't end up coming from the consumers?

Is it your position that some people simply do not deserve healthcare?

I know, people make the argument that if Joe wants healthcare, get an education and get a job with healthcare. That's fine but ignores the problem - do restaurant workers (to use the current example) deserve access to doctors that doesn't instantly bankrupt them?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Whaaaa?
18%?

you know that whole gratuity included for parties of 6 or more thing? Yeah.

Typically the rule is 15%, so with sales tax, an easy way to split the bill is to take your order (add your drinks, dishes etc up) and add 25%. A little more if you get hammered with 18%. Typically people round up and down and the difference works out nicely.

But I remember with the damn 4% charge and CA sales tax at nearly 10%, and 18% gratuity PLUS having to pay for birthday girl's dinner, the math came out to be almost a 33% charge on top of your dishes' price. People were like WTF? But yeah, it worked out just fine.

 

[techs]

There's a reason SF has many top companies, has a very high income level, and high standard of living. Taxes.
You don't like it, don't go there.

 

[Train]

There's a reason SF has many top companies, has a very high income level, and high standard of living. Taxes.
You don't like it, don't go there.

lol

Detroit has one of the highest tax rates in the country too.

 

[Anubis]

There's a reason SF has many top companies, has a very high income level, and high standard of living. Taxes.
You don't like it, don't go there.

guess why everyone is trying to GTFO out of NYS

 

[yh125d]

Whats this nonsense?


Does SF have some sort of localized healthcare thingy?

 

[drebo]

Is it your position that some people simply do not deserve healthcare?

I know, people make the argument that if Joe wants healthcare, get an education and get a job with healthcare. That's fine but ignores the problem - do restaurant workers (to use the current example) deserve access to doctors that doesn't instantly bankrupt them?

Everyone has access to healthcare at any time, whether they have insurance and money or not. Do I think anyone is ever entitled to anything? Abso-fucking-lutely not. Everyone has the OPPORTUNITY to go out and GET whatever they want, but they sure as shit are not guaranteed anything.

My feeling is that I don't need to be paying for illegals to come and drop anchor babies. I already pay for it through higher premiums and deductibles. Obamacare just offers the chance to legitimize it and makes me pay for it directly.

 

[JS80]

Solution: reduce your 15% tip to 11%. For me, I tip 10%, so I would reduce to 6%.

 

[oogabooga]

Oh San Fransisco

Was this voted in recently or just taking effect?

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

Solution: reduce your 15% tip to 11%. For me, I tip 10%, so I would reduce to 6%.

Even though this is a trollpost, I'll bite anyway. Restaurants could have just increased the price of their whole menu by 4% to absorb this tax, but instead they're showing it to you as a line item. If it makes you change your tip, you're a cheap asshole. Don't penalize your server for this charge.

 

[shopbruin]

It started in 2008:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/mbauer/detail?blogid=26&entry_id=12576

A Chronicle story on Friday detailed some of what's happening to small businesses, especially restaurants. The first hit was the minimum wage, which is now $9.14 an hour.

Beginning Feb. 5, San Francisco will implement a new sick leave law that mandates employees get one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours worked.

And finally, in July, owners who employ 20 or more people will have to contribute $1.11 an hour for health care.

 

[AreaCode707]

Here's an idea for people in SF that don't want to deal with this: VOTE NANCY PELOSI THE FUCK OUT OF OFFICE. Then you won't have to deal with bullshit legislation being passed. Seriously, nobody thought that business' increased healthcare costs wouldn't end up coming from the consumers?

I am fairly sure my psycho aunt in the Bay Area will eventually either successfully run for office or shoot Nancy Pelosi, one way or the other.

 

[nerp]

Everyone has access to healthcare at any time, whether they have insurance and money or not. Do I think anyone is ever entitled to anything? Abso-fucking-lutely not. Everyone has the OPPORTUNITY to go out and GET whatever they want, but they sure as shit are not guaranteed anything.

My feeling is that I don't need to be paying for illegals to come and drop anchor babies. I already pay for it through higher premiums and deductibles. Obamacare just offers the chance to legitimize it and makes me pay for it directly.

Thank you for opting out of medicare when you get old. And social security. Your decision to spare us taxpayers the money is a generous thing. Thanks so much.

 

[mugs]

Even though this is a trollpost, I'll bite anyway. Restaurants could have just increased the price of their whole menu by 4% to absorb this tax, but instead they're showing it to you as a line item. If it makes you change your tip, you're a cheap asshole. Don't penalize your server for this charge.

I have no doubt that he's being sincere. Not only is he penalizing his server for the tax, he's penalizing them for having to wait on him. On the upside, you know he's consumed all sorts of gross stuff if he ever goes to the same restaurant twice.

 

[nakedfrog]

Even though this is a trollpost, I'll bite anyway. Restaurants could have just increased the price of their whole menu by 4% to absorb this tax, but instead they're showing it to you as a line item. If it makes you change your tip, you're a cheap asshole. Don't penalize your server for this charge.

I wouldn't be so sure.

 

[ric1287]

Thank you for opting out of medicare when you get old. And social security. Your decision to spare us taxpayers the money is a generous thing. Thanks so much.

If they gave an option to stop taking money out of my check for it, I'd gladly agree to this.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I have no doubt that he's being sincere. Not only is he penalizing his server for the tax, he's penalizing them for having to wait on him. On the upside, you know he's consumed all sorts of gross stuff if he ever goes to the same restaurant twice.

Yeah but with outrageous min wage laws in SF, I bet you they get insane pay already. All these benefits like sick days, etc wtf. Most modern companies now just go with PTO. I don't care if you're sick or you're flying to Mexico. It comes out of the same pool. Anyway, they get all these perks already.

You're right I won't penalize my server, but I can understand why some people will do it.

There's a reason SF has many top companies, has a very high income level, and high standard of living. Taxes.
You don't like it, don't go there.

I find this statement funny. Alameda County across the bay has a 9.75% sales tax versus the 9.50% in SF. Last I checked Alameda County also has the shittiest neighborhoods. YEAH OAKLAND! Crap crime rates, terrible poverty, etc etc. I went to school in Berkeley. SF is definitely better. I have no issues parking in SF when I have to go towards Civic Center/Tenderloin more because Union Square is a clusterfvck. I just parked my car by Glide Memorial church the other day (if anyone remembers from The Pursuit of Happyness) and it's not as scary as when I park my car in Chinatown in Oakland to go sing Karaoke. But anyway, SF isn't exactly "high standard of living" either. Old small homes for ridiculous prices. Terrible traffic, homelessness, crime (although much better than Oakland)

Then you have the South Bay that's at 9.25%. Home of Apple, Intel, AMD, nVidia, etc. all your top tech companies are there. That is the highest standard of living my friend. We don't have as much homeless problems, standard of living problems poor roads, terrible schools, etc. Yeah. Crime? I can tell you that growing up here my friends are retarded. They would leave laptops in their cars in open view and nothing would happen. Crime is just nonexistent in our communities. The one homicide that occurs every 10 years in our city becomes breaking news for a week straight because it's unheard of. Yes. Lowest sales tax in the bay, and I enjoy my multiple highways (come on... i never really knew about congestion till I lived in the East Bay), well maintained neighborhoods, good schools, safe communities, etc.

High standard of living my ass. Too many people from SF seem to think that they live in some sort of heaven. It's like they've never gone outside of their city or something (quite likely because I have friends who are in college and can't even drive because I guess you never need to drive in SF)