3.2C P4 -or- A64 3000+????

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
wrong

Wow. What an informative post! A one-word answer! He must know alot of things about computer processors if he posts an entire WORD every time he posts!! :roll:

Stop following me around and trolling me you ba$tard. Since you're so smart, show us all a gaming benchmark where a 3.2C beats out a 3200+ A64.

 

[Ryoga]

I would probably go with an Intel right now, but that's because the two chips are roughly equal. IMX, the quality of Intel chips is somewhat better (never had an Intel chip fail) and I also find that Intel CPUs with Intel chipsets make the most stable systems. IMX, Intel runs cooler, too.

I don't like VIA chipsets (they tend to be buggy, IMX) and haven't really been impressed by some of the driver problems I've seen on the nVidia chipsets.

I have no interest in jumping into 64-bit right now either, since I have no OS and no application that supports it, let alone that significantly benefits from it. By the time 64-bit becomes worthwhile, DDR2, PCI Express, SATA, and (possibly) BTX will be pushing the marketplace. That means I'd end up running 64-bit programs on hardware that's wholly out-of-date. No thanks.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Ryoga
I would probably go with an Intel right now, but that's because the two chips are roughly equal. IMX, the quality of Intel chips is somewhat better (never had an Intel chip fail) and I also find that Intel CPUs with Intel chipsets make the most stable systems. IMX, Intel runs cooler, too.

I don't like VIA chipsets (they tend to be buggy, IMX) and haven't really been impressed by some of the driver problems I've seen on the nVidia chipsets.

I have no interest in jumping into 64-bit right now either, since I have no OS and no application that supports it, let alone that significantly benefits from it. By the time 64-bit becomes worthwhile, DDR2, PCI Express, SATA, and (possibly) BTX will be pushing the marketplace. That means I'd end up running 64-bit programs on hardware that's wholly out-of-date. No thanks.

BS ! Intel used to be the coolest running, but not anymore. And whats this IMX ???? And stability of AMD systems ?? Get real, they are proven stable for many years. At least give a real reason for wanting Intel..

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Ryoga
IMX, Intel runs cooler

I'm 99% certain the A64 runs much cooler than the P4. Other than that, your comments about the chipset manufacturers are pretty accurate. Intel is the best in that area, except they switch sockets at least once a year forcing you to buy a new motherboard.

I agree that VIA is sub-par compared to intel, although they have gotten much better lately.

The nVidia chipsets are incredible. I've been using the nForce2 platform for over a year and have been very impressed. They have the best driver support team in the world; if they have driver problems now I'm certain they will be promptly fixed. That said, nobody else has mentionned driver issues to me until now.

 

[MichaelZ]

ROFL, same culprits at it again. Wonderful.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: i82lazyboy
meh, can't people just accept personal preference these days? :disgust:

If you consider "preference" buying something vastly inferior for more money, then yes, that's why we have a problem with it. If AMD and intel both performed the same for the same price and you "preferred" intel, I would have no problem with that. The trouble is, that's not what's happening. You guys are brainwashed by advertising and marketing, and then you go on to proliferate things by reccomending your "preferences" to others.

I am simply using logic and reccomending whatever performs better for the price. That's it that's all.

ROFL, same culprits at it again. Wonderful.

I suppose you could be considered more of a "culprit" than I am. You even have i82 in your nickname. I'm guessing that's your public branding to let the world know that you're an intel fanboy. :roll:

 

[MichaelZ]

i use intel, so? am i trolling through threads pimpin intel like the way you pimp amd which you use?

you need to calm down and get over it. people have preferences, if personal preference is not a good enough reason for you, and you have to have a technical reason to prove one is absolutly superior to the other and you MUST buy one over another in such a situation, you sir need a vacation and stop getting so worked up over parts.

 

[SickBeast]

Yeah maybe I need a vacation. :beer:

 

[Zebo]

Some people don't like going with a no name like AMD. Marketing departments are bigger than R&D in every company and sales get paid higher than engineers in every company for a reason fellas...they move the product.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Some people don't like going with a no name like AMD. Marketing departments are bigger than R&D in every company and sales get paid higher than engineers in every company for a reason fellas...they move the product.

AMD a no name ? And you are a lifer ? You need to learn to read. Yea, thats how AMD is starting to get big in the server market, because the companies like HP and IBM have never heard of them....

 

[SickBeast]

AMD is a no-name in the sense that nobody has heard of them. He's not saying they're a bad brand, just that they don't have any brand recognition. Ask your parents if they've ever heard of AMD. They will probably think that it is a cheeseburger or something.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
AMD is a no-name in the sense that nobody has heard of them. He's not saying they're a bad brand, just that they don't have any brand recognition. Ask your parents if they've ever heard of AMD. They will probably think that it is a cheeseburger or something.

And EVERY Friday I and millions of other people read the Frys ad, that advertizes AMD processors AT NO COST TO AMD not to mention the other free press they get. Maybe building better processor value, and having companies and people figure it out without spending millions on advertizing isn't so crazy after all.

 

[SilentZero]

Definately the AMD64. But if it were me, and you weren't overclocking, id go with a 3400+ minimum.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: i82lazyboy
meh, can't people just accept personal preference these days?


If you consider "preference" buying something vastly inferior for more money, then yes, that's why we have a problem with it. If AMD and intel both performed the same for the same price and you "preferred" intel, I would have no problem with that. The trouble is, that's not what's happening. You guys are brainwashed by advertising and marketing, and then you go on to proliferate things by reccomending your "preferences" to others.

I am simply using logic and reccomending whatever performs better for the price. That's it that's all.

wow, if you think the 3.2 C is "VASTLY INFERIOR" to the A64 3200+, i dont know what to see. that seems to be a purely fanboist statement

but chips have their strengths and weaknesses, neither is "VASTLY INFERIOR" to the other

 

[SickBeast]

I never said the P4 3.2C was "vastly inferior", so don't put words in my mouth buddy.

 

[Corporate Thug]

so what are referring to as being vastly inferior buddy?

 

[SickBeast]

I was making a point, that was all. Many times, you will see intel fanboys who want to purchase intel Celerons instead of Athlon XPs, despite what everyone tells them and despite the fact that the AthlonXP is "vastly superior". That was the point I was trying to make. Please don't come up with things and quote me as saying things I never said.

 

[Corporate Thug]

if i was clear in what you meant, i would not have made any assumptions

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Zebo
Some people don't like going with a no name like AMD. Marketing departments are bigger than R&D in every company and sales get paid higher than engineers in every company for a reason fellas...they move the product.

AMD a no name ? And you are a lifer ? You need to learn to read. Yea, thats how AMD is starting to get big in the server market, because the companies like HP and IBM have never heard of them....

Everythings relative mark. My mom's heard of Intel, in fact both my parents own stock in it because the wanted to invest in "technology" they said and that's all they knew, 'm sure in large part to pervasive market presence Intel has, but they sure never heard of AMD. Neither has your nieghbor most likly that's all.

 

[dudeman007]

I think this thread needs to be locked LOL

*edit* and rereading and earlier post...shady06 was refering to you sickbeast when he first talked about intel being "vastly inferior". This was directed at i82lazyboy who said that.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: shady06
if i was clear in what you meant, i would not have made any assumptions

You should never make assumptions when quoting someone. It's inappropriate.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: shady06
if i was clear in what you meant, i would not have made any assumptions

You should never make assumptions when quoting someone. It's inappropriate.

you should always be clear about what you are referring to, its good communication

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: shady06
if i was clear in what you meant, i would not have made any assumptions

You should never make assumptions when quoting someone. It's inappropriate.

you should always be clear about what you are referring to, its good communication

OK fine. So I'll be more clear and you can stop making assumptions. Deal. :beer:

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: shady06
if i was clear in what you meant, i would not have made any assumptions

You should never make assumptions when quoting someone. It's inappropriate.

you should always be clear about what you are referring to, its good communication

OK fine. So I'll be more clear and you can stop making assumptions. Deal. :beer:

done :beer:

 

[SniperWulf]

I prefer AMD myself. I have a 3000+ and its a rock solid system. but dude, just buy what your more comfortable with