2TB Samsung F4 - $94.99 Free Shipping - Newegg

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homercles337

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SuperBiiz/eWiz...

I would be careful with these guys. They tried to screw me out of a dead mobo. I had to get the BBB involved...
 

Holler

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IMO 5400rpm makes this deal COLD.

You can get the 2TB Seagate drives for around this price.

you should research some benchies before making this assumption. performance on these 3 platter F4 2TB drives are pretty nice for a 5400 drive.
 

Plester

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SuperBiiz/eWiz...

I would be careful with these guys. They tried to screw me out of a dead mobo. I had to get the BBB involved...

Once bought 4 x 1tb Hitachi bare drives from them and they were shipped with virtually no padding and 2 drives were DOA, led to a long painful RMA in which replacement drives were sent with no padding and one of them was DOA as well. When asked if they thought that shipping hard drives like this seemed like a good idea they said 'we don't ever have any problems'. Buyer beware, I will never buy a bare drive from Ewiz again no matter how tempting the price is.
 

qliveur

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IMO 5400rpm makes this deal COLD.

You can get the 2TB Seagate drives for around this price.
If you looked at post #15 (thanks, Termie) you'd see that, even at 5400RPM, this drive is faster than a 640GB WD Caviar Blue, which is a 7200RPM drive, due to its 667GB platter size.
 

Termie

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Once bought 4 x 1tb Hitachi bare drives from them and they were shipped with virtually no padding and 2 drives were DOA, led to a long painful RMA in which replacement drives were sent with no padding and one of them was DOA as well. When asked if they thought that shipping hard drives like this seemed like a good idea they said 'we don't ever have any problems'. Buyer beware, I will never buy a bare drive from Ewiz again no matter how tempting the price is.

I bought mine from them last week and honestly, it was packed quite well, better than the drives I've bought from Newegg. It was in a plastic clamshell that was suspended by two pieces of molded foam. Seemed quite a bit better than a drive in bubble wrap floating around a big box of foam peanuts, which is how Newegg ships drives. I think Superbiiz/Ewiz has really stepped up to become a player in the hardware retail industry. They are a bit slower to deliver, however, because their free shipping is not the 3-day shipping Newegg uses and they don't get it out the door as fast as Newegg.

If you looked at post #15 (thanks, Termie) you'd see that, even at 5400RPM, this drive is faster than a 640GB WD Caviar Blue, which is a 7200RPM drive, due to its 667GB platter size.

You're welcome.
 
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jjmIII

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I can only laugh when people say "this 2TB drive is only 5400rpm". Ya, no kidding. It's NOT an OS drive...was never supposed to be. Ever heard of an SSD? Or maybe the second link in the OP!

This is the best of what it is, at the best price. Isn't that a Hot Deal?
 

vshah

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have 2 of these in my whs, along with 2 of the 1.5tb F3s. quiet, cool, and no issues with the advanced format in my whs *knockonwood*

my system drive (an old 300gb seagate) idles at 29C, these hover around 22.
 

SickBeast

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If you looked at post #15 (thanks, Termie) you'd see that, even at 5400RPM, this drive is faster than a 640GB WD Caviar Blue, which is a 7200RPM drive, due to its 667GB platter size.
Faster in what respect? Sequential transfers? Fine, perhaps. You're comparing it to a 2 year old hard drive. Even still, I'm sure that the 640gb Caviar has lower seek times and would serve better as an OS or gaming hard drive.

If all you store on your hard drive is huge video files, then this Samsung drive is fine. I'm just saying that the 7200rpm Seagate drives have been showing up regularly here in Canada where things are typically more expensive for $90-100. I would also take the 7200 Western Digital drives over the Samsung, even if I had to pay $10 extra.

OP I don't appreciate all the hostility. If you can't handle people's opinions, I don't know why you're even here.
 

jjmIII

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OP I don't appreciate all the hostility. If you can't handle people's opinions, I don't know why you're even here.

Hostility? I was hoping you had something to add. I'm not sure you do even now.
This is a storage drive, with new technology, and the best current price. It's not a surprise you can find a list of faster drives.

If you have nothing to add, I don't know why you're even here.
 

Termie

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Picked up 2 from Newegg this morning, thanks. Couldn't hold back any longer.

I'm pretty sure you'll like them.

By the way, as far as I can tell from my Kill-a-Watt, the drive uses about 3 watts at idle, which is just ridiculously low for a 3.5" drive. My WDC Blue 640 uses about 5 watts, and the Samsung F1 that I replaced used about 7 watts at idle.

I've been reading the dissent among some of the posters here, and I understand your concerns about the 5400rpm speed of the F4. Heck, I didn't replace my 7200rpm WDC Blue applications drive with the F4, and I don't intend to (even though the F4 benchies faster in every CrystalDiskMark test). But as a stroage drive, the F4 is fantastic, and can be used for applications in a pinch.
 
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swerus

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I concur its a great storage drive, quiet, low power, and low heat. We will see how reliable they are but I haven't heard of any issues thus far.
 

thegimp03

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I'm pretty sure you'll like them.

By the way, as far as I can tell from my Kill-a-Watt, the drive uses about 3 watts at idle, which is just ridiculously low for a 3.5" drive. My WDC Blue 640 uses about 5 watts, and the Samsung F1 that I replaced used about 7 watts at idle.

I've been reading the dissent among some of the posters here, and I understand your concerns about the 5400rpm speed of the F4. Heck, I didn't replace my 7200rpm WDC Blue applications drive with the F4, and I don't intend to (even though the F4 benchies faster in every CrystalDiskMark test). But as a stroage drive, the F4 is fantastic, and can be used for applications in a pinch.

Yeah I've been reading good things about them. I already have an Intel G2 SSD for my OS/system drive and two nearly full 1TB WDC Caviar Blacks. These two Samsungs are going to replace a 300GB WDC Raptor and a 300GB Seagate which I've been using as overflow storage from the Caviar Blacks. I'm certain they will use less power and run cooler, and of course will nearly double the amount of storage I have.
 

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any problems using these new F4 drives in WHS? I know the WD drives have the jumper for a single partition drive in WHS, or you can use the WD Align utility. Any special requirements for these drives in WHS?
 

brotj7

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How are you guys getting $95@newegg. Using EMCZYYV28 and BAT5 I get a notice that stacking is not allowed.
 

GEOrifle

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Should i buy SAMSUNG STORY Station External HDD or this one with an Ext. Encl. ?
STORY Station looks cool , wanted USB 3 version but can't find it yet, in Europe USB3
SAMSUNG STORY Station cost $135...
 

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Faster in what respect? Sequential transfers? Fine, perhaps. You're comparing it to a 2 year old hard drive. Even still, I'm sure that the 640gb Caviar has lower seek times and would serve better as an OS or gaming hard drive.

If all you store on your hard drive is huge video files, then this Samsung drive is fine. I'm just saying that the 7200rpm Seagate drives have been showing up regularly here in Canada where things are typically more expensive for $90-100. I would also take the 7200 Western Digital drives over the Samsung, even if I had to pay $10 extra.

OP I don't appreciate all the hostility. If you can't handle people's opinions, I don't know why you're even here.

Somehow hard drive manufacturers keep taking turns with series that fail more often than average. At one point Seagate was great with 7200.8 and 7200.7 series but after that had several duds, including firmware disasters in several series. Western Digital was successful with Raptors (and VR) and after was very successful with GP series but had several duds lately (last 2 years). It is almost impossible these days to associate one company with good quality or low quality hard drive series.

Samsung appeared in HD space recently and is mostly known for low power consumption, average /below average performance drives (segment matching WD GP drives). It has not had terrible line of drives (most likely it will at one point) so it has good reputation at this point.

I, personally, cannot care less about my HD company lifetime repution. It all comes down to the observed quality of the specific line of a drive that I plan to buy. HD failure is not the end of the world (all of my important data exists on 2 physical drives and a backup copy, stored away from my home and updated every 2-3 months) but it is rather time consuming to recover (ever tried WHS system drive replacement?). A 5400rpm drive is fast enough for server storage for almost all tasks, including 1080p HD content. It does not really pay to have 7200rpm drive, if it produces more heat and fails more often.

For people who put big drives in PCs it is probably different but faster rpm does not automatically translate into better performance, including seek time. You might be making a mistake by ruling out 5400 drives, based on rotational speed only.
 

vshah

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any problems using these new F4 drives in WHS? I know the WD drives have the jumper for a single partition drive in WHS, or you can use the WD Align utility. Any special requirements for these drives in WHS?


i'm using 2 as storage pool drives

os: 300gb seagate
storage pool:
2x 1.5tb samsung F3
2x 2tb samsung F4

i haven't noticed any stuttering issues or any drops in transfer rate. i still get ~80mb/s reads and writes over gigabit.


i dropped them in, partitioned and formatted from disk management within server 2003, and was good to go.
 

richardycc

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does one really need a 2TB HD? I recently has just replaced my 4yrs+ PC with a 180GB HD that was only 60% full.
 

qliveur

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Depends on what you're storing. HD video takes up a huge amount of space.
 

alaricljs

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does one really need a 2TB HD? I recently has just replaced my 4yrs+ PC with a 180GB HD that was only 60% full.

Depends on what you do with it. I have 3 in my server. Yes I have a server in my home and no there is nothing "work" related whatsoever on it. My server stores all my kid's movies so they can't touch the discs, my music in flac and ogg (and whatever flavor I may need for portable devices). I also store all my software installs with scripts to silently install the software I use most. This is a hold-back from when I had to install XP a few times a year because I kept killing it. Win 7 is doing far better in this respect.

3x 2TB drives is way better than the 10x 500GB drives I was running.


Oh yeah, and it's also storing backups of my laptop, desktop, wife's desktop, the TV PC, and when my kids have their own systems those too.
 
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