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2nd FUUUUUU brake-stomping e-break-yanking near miss in 2 days

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LTC8K6 said:
In my Jeep, the hand brake is actually a separate brake and is not related to the regular brakes. This is the case with many cars.

So it is actually an "extra" brake.

I don't know if it's the case with the OP's car.

Even so, the parking brake really does nothing much if you are already making a panic stop.
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If anything it would cause it lock faster. Which isn't good. Smaller braking surface for those separate/inner parking brakes.
 
Pulling the ebrake is what I heard in HS a lot. I dont hear it from anyone any more lol.

One of my friends who had a 328 did this to avoid something and his car went sideways.... lol


My G35 has drum brake like pads for the parking brake so the normal disc brakes can still be operated by the ABS/VDC systems.
 
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op was following too close. defensive driving is needed. leave enough space for 2 cars to get in front of you. i know, its annoying as hell because everyone races ahead to squeeze into the spot in front of you. just relax, let off the gas, and regain the distance from the new guy. its not a manly practice, but you can go a lifetime without ever being in an accident at least for fault.
 
There's an interesting effect on the internet where if an OP posts something that displays indescribable, unfathomable, ludicrous stupidity, all the other developmentally delayed members are drawn to the OP like moths to a flame, to help that flame of burning bullshit burn brighter.

Zenm and JCH should know better than to try to put out a pile of burning crap this big using only their pitiful tools of cold facts. Facts are useless against the OP's zombie hoard.
 
thomsbrain said:
There's an interesting effect on the internet where if an OP posts something that displays indescribable, unfathomable, ludicrous stupidity, all the other developmentally delayed members are drawn to the OP like moths to a flame, to help that flame of burning bullshit burn brighter.

Zenm and JCH should know better than to try to put out a pile of burning crap this big using only their pitiful tools of cold facts. Facts are useless against the OP's zombie hoard.
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I just don't want the innocent and nieve to believe such insanity, even if the OP is hopeless.
 
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Lifted said:
They really need to start teaching people about blind spots and looking over their shoulder before changing lanes.
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Has nothing to do with it. They know. They just do it anyway.

It has nothing to do with driving skills and everything to do with the machismo me first "I pwn j00" attitude people have while driving.
 
LTC8K6 said:
In my Jeep, the hand brake is actually a separate brake and is not related to the regular brakes. This is the case with many cars.

So it is actually an "extra" brake.

I don't know if it's the case with the OP's car.

Even so, the parking brake really does nothing much if you are already making a panic stop.
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How so?
The parking brake is cable actuated and on every vehicle I've done brakes on it goes to brake calipers and is simply a seperate mechanism to depress the standard brake pads.
 
exdeath said:
Has nothing to do with it. They know. They just do it anyway.

It has nothing to do with driving skills and everything to do with the machismo me first "I pwn j00" attitude people have while driving.
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Like the people that think they are special and can drive down the median or breakdown lane when traffic is stopped, passing everyone else that is stuck? Those people piss me off to no end. I'm the guy that if in the inside or outside lane will move to block idiots from doing this.
I'm stuck = you're stuck unless you have flashing strobes and a siren.
 
JeffreyLebowski said:
How so?
The parking brake is cable actuated and on every vehicle I've done brakes on it goes to brake calipers and is simply a seperate mechanism to depress the standard brake pads.
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No, he's right, some cars actually have a secondary set of shoes at the back that are cable-actuated only.

Really it's a better system--more redundancy--but using the parking brake cable to actuate the standard rear brakes is a pretty common cost-cutting strategy, as you've observed.
 
JeffreyLebowski said:
Like the people that think they are special and can drive down the median or breakdown lane when traffic is stopped, passing everyone else that is stuck? Those people piss me off to no end. I'm the guy that if in the inside or outside lane will move to block idiots from doing this.
I'm stuck = you're stuck unless you have flashing strobes and a siren.
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You can ride down the middle of the lane between cars here legally if you're on a motorcycle. So, you're stuck if you're in a cage but if you're on a bike you have a move to the front of the line pass. :sneaky:
 
JeffreyLebowski said:
How so?
The parking brake is cable actuated and on every vehicle I've done brakes on it goes to brake calipers and is simply a seperate mechanism to depress the standard brake pads.
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It's unpowered and cable operated and has little braking power from highway speeds. And if it does anything, it's likely to lock the wheels, since there's little control of braking effort.

And many modern cars have completely separate parking brake systems, such as my Jeep.

I have 4 wheel disc brakes with drum parking brakes, like a lot of 4 wheel disc brake cars.

I haven't tried it, but I'm certain that my parking brake will do little to nothing if I try to use it at 70mph to slow down, it will quickly overheat.

If I yank on it, I'm certain my rears will lock.

Note the number of people who have driven with their parking brake on, blissfully unaware...if the parking brake had any decent stopping power, they would not be able to drive off like that.
 
Meghan54 said:
... There's no need for an emergency brake on a modern vehicle as the brake system has dual circuit redundancy built in. (Both fronts and one side of the rear on one circuit, both fronts and the other side rear on the other circuit.)
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The system you describe is a dual triangulated system and is not very common. The common system is dual circuit which uses one front and one rear on each circuit.

Simply put, if you don't have (2) brake hoses going to each front caliper, you do not have a dual triangulated system. Some old Volvo's and BMW's have triangulated systems (others too I'm sure, but I haven't seen them).

Locking up both rear wheels won't typically cause a spin if you are going straight when you lock them up. Once you start throwing in steering angles, I'd think all bets are off.

Locking up the e-brake won't disable the ABS, but it will set a code (at least on the older systems that I worked on). No fault lights will come on, but the system doesn't know why bleeding off pressure to the rear brakes didn't start them rolling again.
 
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