2GB of RAM . . . overkill?

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Alkali

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The most I use is around 720MB in normal use, but in heavy use it can start chugging a bit - I will change my Ram to 2GB (of whatever type) next time I go for a new Motherboard (Which will be an Opteron Workstation mobo I expect).

Windows Task Manager can return incorrect Ram usage too. It only reports on Ram that is registered as being used. When programs not written well enough cache in Ram, and they don't tell Windows per-se, it doesnt register it - better using a 3rd party Ram usage indicator like StatBar and its Ram module.
 

Eug

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My next laptop will have at least 1 GB. (I've got 768 MB right now. Usually it's OK, until I start playing with video.) So 2 GB for desktop... why not?
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: bill_n_opus
Originally posted by: MasterHoss
:Q 2GB???!!??



Originally posted by: nick 1985
give me some money

What the heck, you guys, the chips are only like 100 bucks each. ;) Going from 512 to 1024 is only an extra 200 dollars, that's cheaper than a new LCD. :p
 

NokiaDude

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: ElFenix
why don't you look at the task manager for how much memory you're using. if you're using less than 1 GiB you're not going to get any benefit going from 1 GiB to 2 GiB.
Not necessarily... see the situation I described above. Total memory usage usually doesn't top 300Mb at any time, but without the other 1200Mb in there, I couldn't do zero-disk-activity Office2000 installs.

There's no such thing as a zero-disk activity install. EVERY program has to write to the disk. If that didn't happen then the minute you reboot your installation would be gone because it would still reside in the memory.
 

zsouthboy

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Originally posted by: shuttleteam
I find that 4GB is not enough.

2GB is hardly overkill. It's all in what you use your system for. If you're just surfin' and postin' and doin' a little 3DMarkin', then it's akin to renting a 24' Ryder truck to return a handful of library books...

-DAK-

:Q :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q

/penis envy
 

PLaYaHaTeD

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Originally posted by: NokiaDude
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: ElFenix
why don't you look at the task manager for how much memory you're using. if you're using less than 1 GiB you're not going to get any benefit going from 1 GiB to 2 GiB.
Not necessarily... see the situation I described above. Total memory usage usually doesn't top 300Mb at any time, but without the other 1200Mb in there, I couldn't do zero-disk-activity Office2000 installs.

There's no such thing as a zero-disk activity install. EVERY program has to write to the disk. If that didn't happen then the minute you reboot your installation would be gone because it would still reside in the memory.

He is talking about from his computer. Of course the computer that is actually having the program installed is writing to the disk, but his computer isnt. I think....
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: NokiaDude
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: ElFenix
why don't you look at the task manager for how much memory you're using. if you're using less than 1 GiB you're not going to get any benefit going from 1 GiB to 2 GiB.
Not necessarily... see the situation I described above. Total memory usage usually doesn't top 300Mb at any time, but without the other 1200Mb in there, I couldn't do zero-disk-activity Office2000 installs.

There's no such thing as a zero-disk activity install. EVERY program has to write to the disk. If that didn't happen then the minute you reboot your installation would be gone because it would still reside in the memory.
You're right in what you say, but you misunderstood what I said.

My system hosts the administrative installation point for Office2000 at our office. When I'm building new systems, they pull their Office2000 installations from my computer (while I'm using it as a workstation). The first time an Office2000 install is requested, it comes from my hard drive, resulting in disk activity. From there on, my system's OS keeps the Office2000 admin. installation-point files in RAM, and the next system to request an installation gets it from RAM, so my hard drive is free to work for *me*.

Same applies for all the other files and patches that I host (IE 5.5SP2, Q-patches, SP3 for Win2000, Acrobat Reader, FilZip, McAfee VirusScan 4.5.1, etc). Does that clarify it :)
 

BFG10K

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It's probably overkill for most things but very large graphics files and databases will take advantage of it.

If it's cheap then I say go for it. There's no such thing as too much RAM. :)
 

CTho9305

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Originally posted by: GaryShandling
Theres no such thing as overkill in the computer industry, it doesnt take alot of intelligence to realise that. Time eventually will make your system obsolete, but having better products in your comp will mean it will take less time and give you better performance at the later stages.

Or you could buy a system that costs half as much as the overkill today, which will run all games that are out today just fine, and then another one for the half price in a year, and never fall behind.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: shuttleteam
I find that 4GB is not enough.

2GB is hardly overkill. It's all in what you use your system for. If you're just surfin' and postin' and doin' a little 3DMarkin', then it's akin to renting a 24' Ryder truck to return a handful of library books...

-DAK-

What the heck are you running?? Must be a server or something like that.
 

Chaotic42

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I would go for it. I've got a lame stick of 512 now, and I can tell the difference in going from 1280->768. My next system will have 4GB, at least.
 

PLaYaHaTeD

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I would go for it. I've got a lame stick of 512 now, and I can tell the difference in going from 1280->768. My next system will have 4GB, at least.

Yeah, at least....
Tell me what the hell you are doing to need at least 4 gigs of ram, hosting the entire internet?
 

Atlantean

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hey who cares its pretty cheap now the more ram the better... you planning to play sim city 4 much?
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: shuttleteam
I find that 4GB is not enough.

2GB is hardly overkill. It's all in what you use your system for. If you're just surfin' and postin' and doin' a little 3DMarkin', then it's akin to renting a 24' Ryder truck to return a handful of library books...

-DAK-

What the heck are you running?? Must be a server or something like that.

Thats what I was going to ask had you not posted that. It seems like Shuttle team has been working on some very exquisite systems because if you read over his previous posts, he mentions systems we never even think about. One of them was of a ton of hard drives spinning up, thats sounded like an engine!
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: PLaYaHaTeD
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I would go for it. I've got a lame stick of 512 now, and I can tell the difference in going from 1280->768. My next system will have 4GB, at least.

Yeah, at least....
Tell me what the hell you are doing to need at least 4 gigs of ram, hosting the entire internet?

I'm sure you'd need more. There are probably plenty of pr0n sites that take up many times more space than 4GB.
 

ScrapSilicon

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: shuttleteam
I find that 4GB is not enough.

2GB is hardly overkill. It's all in what you use your system for. If you're just surfin' and postin' and doin' a little 3DMarkin', then it's akin to renting a 24' Ryder truck to return a handful of library books...

-DAK-

What the heck are you running?? Must be a server or something like that.

Thats what I was going to ask had you not posted that. It seems like Shuttle team has been working on some very exquisite systems because if you read over his previous posts, he mentions systems we never even think about. One of them was of a ton of hard drives spinning up, thats sounded like an engine!

lol...you had to remind me..listening to it taking off now(I dled :)) ...sounds like a shuttle launching :p..saw that he had in that screenshot 83 processes running...one NASA tiff would pull those numbers..
 

Jeff7181

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In my opinion, 1 GB is enough unless you're doing something out of the ordinary with your computer... if you're planning for the future, that's still a bad idea since there will be new and faster RAM, and the stuff you would buy now will only get cheaper as time goes by.
Get 2x512 Corsair XMS PC3200 Low Latency... that'll be more than adequate. Or maybe go with OCZ's PC3700 so you can overclock that 3.0C and keep the memory in sync.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: PLaYaHaTeD
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I would go for it. I've got a lame stick of 512 now, and I can tell the difference in going from 1280->768. My next system will have 4GB, at least.

Yeah, at least....
Tell me what the hell you are doing to need at least 4 gigs of ram, hosting the entire internet?


If I was going to host the entire internet, all at once, to everyone on the internet, I'd need quite a bit more than 4GB of memory.

What am I going to be doing with it? I don't know. Since I haven't build my next system, I have no idea what I'll be running on it. I can only imagine, that by late 2004, 4GB of RAM will be a decent amount. 18 months ago I had 256MB. 18 months before I had 64. Now I have just over 1GB. Seems like a pattern to me.

I also run Linux, which uses a good deal of the computer's memory no matter what.

Lastly, I like computers, I like playing around with them, and I want 4GB. Computers are fun for me.

Live a little.... Geezus
 

sharkeeper

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What the heck are you running?? Must be a server or something like that.

Workstation actually. Linear Aerospike RTS generates enormous amounts of data. This must be analysed. The process takes a while...

-DAK-
 

drednox

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some upcoming videogames such as SWG and otehrs alike will utilize the extra RAM. i got 2 gigs just for that purpose, and of course as people above mentioned, video / image editing, and i'd imagine sound would fit into that as well.

other then that i dont know



 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: shuttleteam
What the heck are you running?? Must be a server or something like that.

Workstation actually. Linear Aerospike RTS generates enormous amounts of data. This must be analysed. The process takes a while...

-DAK-

Yeah, I understand. Seriously, whats that mean?

I guess it has something to do with space but I have no clue what RTS stands for.
 

ProviaFan

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As mechBgon has said, it will make a difference eventually as stuff you use frequently gets cached, even if any one (or multiple) program doesn't use it all for data manipulation. Hell, if you have the money, go ahead and get it even if you wouldn't be using all of it. It would be cool just for the bragging rights. :cool: