28nm GPUs won't be here until late 2011?

[thilanliyan]

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/graphics/28nm-graphics-comes-in-late-2011

Awww...

 

[Daedalus685]

Seems about right, far as I know TSMC and GloFo are within a couple months of each other for production of 28nm and both are 1H 2011. A few respins beyond that and we will easily be in Q3 before we have chance of seeing cards.

 

[BD231]

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/graphics/28nm-graphics-comes-in-late-2011

Awww...

By the time a year rolls around at least you'll be able to purchase something worth a high price tag. Glad ATI is baiting both companie's to work faster otherwise we'd be waiting longer than that I'm sure.

 

[busydude]

If Nvidia moves to GF for 28nm...

Oh, the irony.

 

[bryanW1995]

they won't unless they're very desperate. honestly, jhh is so competitive I think that amd is taking a big risk switching to gf honestly, they must be REALLY pissed at tsmc...

 

[Idontcare]

they won't unless they're very desperate. honestly, jhh is so competitive I think that amd is taking a big risk switching to gf honestly, they must be REALLY pissed at tsmc...

The latest point in time that NV could have gone with glofo for 28nm and still be on a competitive timeline with AMD would have been for them to have made the decision about 12-18months ago.

In other words the 28nm foundry selection has already occurred, and in fact it occurred before 40nm even went into production. (so for better or worse the 40nm situation has had little impact on 28nm decision, earliest intersection point for that would be 22nm foundry selection)

This is also true, for the same leading timeline reasoning, for AMD and 28nm. The decision to migrate their GPU designs from TSMC's 28nm design rules to GloFo's 28nm design rules would have been made no later than 12-18 months ago.

Long enough ago that it would have likely been viewed internally at AMD as a decision to bring production in-house versus using a foundry at all. At that time, with the level of secrecy involved in the glofo spin-off discussions and decision circles it is unlikely that the AMD GPU design teams were made aware that their decision to bring 28nm designs "in-house" was actually going to be result in them being fabbed by a foundry that would eventually come to be called globalfoundries.

All the drama you and I have seen play out over TSMC's 40nm production situation came late enough that the impact on decisions at NV and AMD won't be seen by us until those two companies debut their 22nm and 16nm product lineups.