28 baby girls found in suitcases on Chinese bus

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: dighn if china doesn't force the one child policy it will self destruct

It is a sad situation, but I am in complete agreement with what you stated. Something has to be done to counter overpopulation in many areas of the world.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't China commonly force many families to kill/abort the fetus if it is a female

no. they force you to abort if you have more than one child. if its born, well you get a big fine

though rural families only want boys so some of them will do what you said

"In addition, the continuing preference for sons has resulted in selective abortion and sometimes infanticide of baby-girls, causing a skewed male-female ratio in the general population."

It is hard to imagine what form of population control could allow China?s current program to be called "milder" by comparison. A nuclear strike might not kill as many people as China?s population program does. The suggestion that female infanticide is something that occurs only "sometimes" as a result of this program is equally ludicrous.

In March, the State Department released its own annual report on human rights in China. This report did some soft-pedaling, too, but is packed with facts painting a grim picture of the Holocaust for Little Girls the Chinese Communists have created.

"Female infanticide, sex selective abortions, the abandonment of little girls, and the neglect of baby girls remain problems due to the traditional preference for sons, and the family planning policy, which limits urban couples to one child and rural couples to two," reported State.

"Estimates from previous years indicate a very high percentage of pregnancies terminated are of female fetuses," said State. "Female babies also suffer from a higher mortality rate than male babies, contrary to the worldwide trend."
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/10-07-02/jeffrey.htm

not clear on where it says the state forces you to abort based on gender...

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
It's China's fault for population control laws. :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust:

no, it is the people's fault for being sexist.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
It's China's fault for population control laws. :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust:

A lot of countries would be better off with such laws.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't China commonly force many families to kill/abort the fetus if it is a female

no. they force you to abort if you have more than one child. if its born, well you get a big fine

though rural families only want boys so some of them will do what you said

"In addition, the continuing preference for sons has resulted in selective abortion and sometimes infanticide of baby-girls, causing a skewed male-female ratio in the general population."

It is hard to imagine what form of population control could allow China?s current program to be called "milder" by comparison. A nuclear strike might not kill as many people as China?s population program does. The suggestion that female infanticide is something that occurs only "sometimes" as a result of this program is equally ludicrous.

In March, the State Department released its own annual report on human rights in China. This report did some soft-pedaling, too, but is packed with facts painting a grim picture of the Holocaust for Little Girls the Chinese Communists have created.

"Female infanticide, sex selective abortions, the abandonment of little girls, and the neglect of baby girls remain problems due to the traditional preference for sons, and the family planning policy, which limits urban couples to one child and rural couples to two," reported State.

"Estimates from previous years indicate a very high percentage of pregnancies terminated are of female fetuses," said State. "Female babies also suffer from a higher mortality rate than male babies, contrary to the worldwide trend."
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/10-07-02/jeffrey.htm

not clear on where it says the state forces you to abort based on gender...

its junk, just read this "he missing girls in China, but even if I?m off by 50% that would still mean the Chinese Communists have murdered more than 30 million girls."

umm ok

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't China commonly force many families to kill/abort the fetus if it is a female

no. they force you to abort if you have more than one child. if its born, well you get a big fine

though rural families only want boys so some of them will do what you said

"In addition, the continuing preference for sons has resulted in selective abortion and sometimes infanticide of baby-girls, causing a skewed male-female ratio in the general population."

It is hard to imagine what form of population control could allow China?s current program to be called "milder" by comparison. A nuclear strike might not kill as many people as China?s population program does. The suggestion that female infanticide is something that occurs only "sometimes" as a result of this program is equally ludicrous.

In March, the State Department released its own annual report on human rights in China. This report did some soft-pedaling, too, but is packed with facts painting a grim picture of the Holocaust for Little Girls the Chinese Communists have created.

"Female infanticide, sex selective abortions, the abandonment of little girls, and the neglect of baby girls remain problems due to the traditional preference for sons, and the family planning policy, which limits urban couples to one child and rural couples to two," reported State.

"Estimates from previous years indicate a very high percentage of pregnancies terminated are of female fetuses," said State. "Female babies also suffer from a higher mortality rate than male babies, contrary to the worldwide trend."
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/10-07-02/jeffrey.htm

not clear on where it says the state forces you to abort based on gender...

its junk, just read this "he missing girls in China, but even if I?m off by 50% that would still mean the Chinese Communists have murdered more than 30 million girls."

umm ok

I apologize that the article stated it this way.. I only quoted parts from *Official Documents* .. I did not even read the whole article to know it was written by a communist hater.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Horrible!

 

[gopunk]

its junk, just read this "he missing girls in China, but even if I?m off by 50% that would still mean the Chinese Communists have murdered more than 30 million girls."

umm ok

I apologize that the article stated it this way.. I only quoted parts from *Official Documents* .. I did not even read the whole article to know it was written by a communist hater.

well i don't mind, i'm just not clear on why that part was posted in response to his post.... i mean it sucks and all, but i don't see any mention of the state forcing abortions for girls. am i missing something? not trying to be an ass, just wondering if i misread something....

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't China commonly force many families to kill/abort the fetus if it is a female

no. they force you to abort if you have more than one child. if its born, well you get a big fine

though rural families only want boys so some of them will do what you said

"In addition, the continuing preference for sons has resulted in selective abortion and sometimes infanticide of baby-girls, causing a skewed male-female ratio in the general population."

It is hard to imagine what form of population control could allow China?s current program to be called "milder" by comparison. A nuclear strike might not kill as many people as China?s population program does. The suggestion that female infanticide is something that occurs only "sometimes" as a result of this program is equally ludicrous.

In March, the State Department released its own annual report on human rights in China. This report did some soft-pedaling, too, but is packed with facts painting a grim picture of the Holocaust for Little Girls the Chinese Communists have created.

"Female infanticide, sex selective abortions, the abandonment of little girls, and the neglect of baby girls remain problems due to the traditional preference for sons, and the family planning policy, which limits urban couples to one child and rural couples to two," reported State.

"Estimates from previous years indicate a very high percentage of pregnancies terminated are of female fetuses," said State. "Female babies also suffer from a higher mortality rate than male babies, contrary to the worldwide trend."
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/10-07-02/jeffrey.htm

not clear on where it says the state forces you to abort based on gender...

its junk, just read this "he missing girls in China, but even if I?m off by 50% that would still mean the Chinese Communists have murdered more than 30 million girls."

umm ok

I apologize that the article stated it this way.. I only quoted parts from *Official Documents* .. I did not even read the whole article to know it was written by a communist hater.

sorry should have focused on the importnat parts. it just made me doubt the credibility a little but i guess that's moot b/c the problem is obviously not that small... hoefully it'll improve as modernization efforts are in progress. would take a while though 🙁

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: Jehovah
:|:disgust::frown:

This is the most disgusting thing I have read. Why didn't they abort them if they were to pull sh!t like this? It's disgusting beyond belief.

yeah I agree this is bad... but ppl have and will do far worse things 🙁

 

[0roo0roo]

not right, but its not as if they were supposed to die or something heh😛 girl shortage.. poor saps.

 

[abovewood]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
It's China's fault for population control laws. :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust:

A lot of countries would be better off with such laws.

I have to agree. But I think 2 children per family should be more reasonable.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't China commonly force many families to kill/abort the fetus if it is a female

no. they force you to abort if you have more than one child. if its born, well you get a big fine

though rural families only want boys so some of them will do what you said

"In addition, the continuing preference for sons has resulted in selective abortion and sometimes infanticide of baby-girls, causing a skewed male-female ratio in the general population."

It is hard to imagine what form of population control could allow China?s current program to be called "milder" by comparison. A nuclear strike might not kill as many people as China?s population program does. The suggestion that female infanticide is something that occurs only "sometimes" as a result of this program is equally ludicrous.

In March, the State Department released its own annual report on human rights in China. This report did some soft-pedaling, too, but is packed with facts painting a grim picture of the Holocaust for Little Girls the Chinese Communists have created.

"Female infanticide, sex selective abortions, the abandonment of little girls, and the neglect of baby girls remain problems due to the traditional preference for sons, and the family planning policy, which limits urban couples to one child and rural couples to two," reported State.

"Estimates from previous years indicate a very high percentage of pregnancies terminated are of female fetuses," said State. "Female babies also suffer from a higher mortality rate than male babies, contrary to the worldwide trend."
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/10-07-02/jeffrey.htm

not clear on where it says the state forces you to abort based on gender...

nope. u can probably bribe off an official anyways. in rural areas its pretty much ignored.

i remember one rich family man talk about it on frontline. he had two kids, no one cared. his justification? too many idiots breeding, he's gotta help out the population with some good stock🙂 haha, well he was rich😛

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: abovewood

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
It's China's fault for population control laws. :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust:

A lot of countries would be better off with such laws.

I have to agree. But I think 2 children per family should be more reasonable.

the one child rule only applies to the first generation. that one child will be allowed to have 2.

 

[RealWarlock]

Blame it on the one child policy.

Blame it on the reactionary one child policy in China... not Communisim.

China is currently running under the reactionary ideology.

Communism was temporarily depressed ever since Mao died in 1976.

It is the reactionaries that promote the backward ideology. Not Communism.

Get your facts straight.