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2700k or 3770k :)

Klunt Bumskrint

Klunt Bumskrint

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Sup dudes, I've got the money and the itch to upgrade my CPU but I'm stuck between the i7 2700k or the i7 3770k.
The rest of my system is fine and I have an ivy ready z68. I like clocking at 4.5GHz and I am not a fan of heat.

Is ivy worth the extra? The Anandtech benches seem about even.
 
Define not fan of heat? Heat in room/case or temperature of the CPU?

An IB 4.5Ghz is roughly equal to an SB at 4.7-4.8Ghz.

Plus PCIe 3.0.
 
Do you live near a Microcenter?
$230 2700K FTW
Don't live near a microcenter?
What motherboard do you have?

If a i73770K clocked at 4.4 performs the same as a 2700K clocked 4.5, I wouldn't be so hung up over exact OC numbers.

Get what ever one is shinier.
 
Don't waste your scratch on the 3770k tick chip. Moving off the 2700k ain't worth it. Do what I should have done, save up for Haswell (March-May) or better still Ivy-E this time next year.
 
ShintaiDK said:
Hotter doesnt mean more heat.

IB uses less power and puts less heat out. Meaning less heat in your room and case plus alittle saving on the utility bill.

And TJmax on IB is 105C.
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I was just waiting for somebody to state this.

We know what he means. It doesn't need corrected in every ivy thread as it just hijacks the thread. Bottom line is Temps are harder to control compared to Sandy.
 
ShintaiDK said:
Hotter doesnt mean more heat.

IB uses less power and puts less heat out. Meaning less heat in your room and case plus alittle saving on the utility bill.

And TJmax on IB is 105C.
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+1 ShintaiDK

It seems as if most people have gotten the message that the 3rd generation Intel® Core™ processors run hotter without understanding about the heat. The heat is tied to voltage. Once you start to increase the voltage the temperature on the processor Heck a lot of people are reporting that they are reaching 4.2GHz to 4.3GHz on the Intel Core i5-3570K without changing the voltage at all. Due to IPC improvements you are getting performance equal to Intel Core i5-2500K overclocked to 4.5GHz to 4.6GHz (which is what the majority of the Intel Core i5-2500K would clock to). So unless you are looking for bragging right of saying, "I have a faster processor then you." The Intel Core i5-3570K and the Intel Core i7-3770K are solid performance processors.
 
I'm in England so I don't have microcenter. I have 2500k at the mo running at 4.5, mostly gaming and I realise there won't be a huge difference in gaming performance I just want to upgrade cuz I have the money.

I can't save money 🙂 so I just spend it when I get spare cash. There is not much else I want apart from a new CPU. Just wanna make sure I get the best chip.
 
Ivy will run at a higher temperature but will not put out more heat

the only thing "wrong" with Ivy is that its thermal temperatures keep it from matching Sandy clock for clock, however it has superior IPC so it doesn't need to reach those same clock speeds to be just as fast if not faster

4.4-4.5 is very doable on Ivy whilst keeping CPU tempurature in check, which should match the performance of a higher clocked Sandy, and all the while the CPU will likely produce less heat than Sandy despite the cores running at a higher temp

if the two are roughly the same price I'd say get the 3770K

although if the 2700K is a good deal cheaper (like it is at Microcenter) I'd say go with the cheaper option, especially if its going into an older 6 series motherboard

that being said, neither will be that great of an upgrade over a 2500K unless you've really started to pile on the multi-threaded work
 
Klunt Bumskrint said:
Sup dudes, I've got the money and the itch to upgrade my CPU but I'm stuck between the i7 2700k or the i7 3770k.
The rest of my system is fine and I have an ivy ready z68. I like clocking at 4.5GHz and I am not a fan of heat.

Is ivy worth the extra? The Anandtech benches seem about even.
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- doesnt really matter, whatever comes up cheapest .. you're looking at 5-10% performance diff either way, depending on the oc'ability of the chip you get. Dont worry 'bout the heat.
 
If you already got a 2500K. Then dont do anything. Any upgrade currently from a 2500K is plain silly. Specially at 4.5Ghz. And i7s offers nothing in gaming compared to i5s.
 
Klunt Bumskrint said:
I'm in England so I don't have microcenter. I have 2500k at the mo running at 4.5, mostly gaming and I realise there won't be a huge difference in gaming performance I just want to upgrade cuz I have the money.

I can't save money 🙂 so I just spend it when I get spare cash. There is not much else I want apart from a new CPU. Just wanna make sure I get the best chip.
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If you put that money into a nice SSD you'd see much bigger gains imho. The same price that a 2700K/3770K buys quite a good one these days, solid 256GB models there.
 
Just noticed the 2500K part.

Don't waste your money on a new proc.
Save for Haswell or as mentioned above a nice SSD will make life wonderful.
 
I already have an msata 30Gb issd for srt which speed things up quite bit. I'm gonna wait another year or two before i go ssd, I'd rather have a 1tb ssd.

I've got everything just as i want it apart from the CPU.
 
I have a 2500k myself. I dont see any point in upgrading to an IB. If I was building a second Intel system from new components, I would choose the newest technology (IB) as long as price wasnt the most important factor.
 
Klunt Bumskrint said:
I have 2500k at the mo running at 4.5, mostly gaming and I realise there won't be a huge difference in gaming performance
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Correction: there will be 0% difference in gaming performance in almost every game. In some games you might see a few frames of difference.

I just want to upgrade cuz I have the money.
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What's your graphics card? I'm certain your graphics card is the gaming bottleneck, not your CPU. But if your framerates are fine, you shouldn't replace the graphics card either. Save the money for a future upgrade, or spend it on something else that will make some difference. Buying a new CPU in your situation is like using cash to light up the fireplace. Actually, less useful than that.
 
I'm going to repeat the opinion that it's basically a side-grade. On paper Ivy Bridge is better (in the ways you want it to be) but it's so small that you're really not going to "feel" the difference.

I currently have my 3570K at 4.6ghz (with less than 1.3v) and it draws approximately 120w under load. I can extrapolate that a 2500K would draw somewhere in the range of 150-160w at the same clock, and would perform ever so slightly lower, but it's not like either is an energy hog and the performance difference is undetectable without benchmarking.

Here's a thought: If you have any reason to keep your PC running overnight, such as downloads, game servers, etc., you might benefit more from building a second ultra-low-power PC to offload those tasks onto. You get added performance on your main PC due to offloaded tasks, and you can turn it off at night and save power.
 
Klunt Bumskrint said:
I already have an msata 30Gb issd for srt which speed things up quite bit. I'm gonna wait another year or two before i go ssd, I'd rather have a 1tb ssd.
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30GB doesn't provide anything. Put all your junk on a 256 or 512. Odds are good we may never see a 1tb consumer level ssd, unless you don't mind asynchronous mlc. Seems like you may never get the picture on your proc. Speaking of pictures, how about a 30" IPS panel or three. Nothing beats 2560 x 1600 x 3!!
 
I like my sammy panel i have now, I have 680 sli so i don't really want to spend any cash on graphics I'd feel better in myself if i had a better cpu, I know its sad but some of you must know what i mean.

So which one?
 
Arkaign said:
If you put that money into a nice SSD you'd see much bigger gains imho. The same price that a 2700K/3770K buys quite a good one these days, solid 256GB models there.
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BAM TRUTH.

What are the rest of your system specs? I know this hasen't been mentioned yet, but If you put that money into a nice SSD you'd see much bigger gains imho. The same price that a 2700K/3770K buys quite a good one these days, solid 256GB models there.

EDIT: Why not go 3930k? 12 threads of goodness. You can FRAPS your games with less slowdown and you can then encode that video for youtube in no time with 12 threads.
 
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