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uclaLabrat

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I got my Samsung 305t on wed. I decided not to wait to finish my build (Cooler is coming in today) and just hooked it up to my old rig. I have to applaud COD4, it runs acceptably well on my old 939 3700+ and X1800XT, even at 2560x1600, albeit with everything turned to pretty much bare minimum. Even then, it's pretty amazing. Can't wait to crank up the eye candy!

The monitor itself is pretty awesome as well. I was worried about input lag or ghosting, but haven't noticed any. Granted, this is over about 5 min of playtime. I'll update later.
 

Arkaign

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Pretty sweet. Looking forward to these coming down in price.

PS3 and X360 look downright prehistoric compared to a powerhouse system and a monitor like that.
 

n7

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Welcome to the 2560x1600 club.

I won't lie, i personally would not want an S-PVA for the money the 30"ers cost, but i've used the Samsung you have; even played some games on it, & i'm pretty sure you're going to be very happy with it :)

When i first got my 3007WFP i had an X1900XT...you can actually run an amazing number of older games @ 2560x1600 w/o having to get a really high end video card.

Keep us updated on how you like your new baby.
 

chizow

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I've been debating a size upgrade myself, just not ready to take the 2560 plunge quite yet. Maybe with the next gen and GT300, barring any major advancements in games or DX specs. The latest graphics cards have done an amazing job catching up to pixel and game requirements for sure.

The other big issue I have is with scaling. How well does your 305t handle non-native scaling? I've read this is still a big issue with the Dell 3007, along with very limited inputs. The one I've had my eye on, the Gateway 30" is supposed to scale non-native extremely well but apparently has bad input lag. I'd still want to be able to scale 1080p full screen for Blu-Ray or extremely demanding games.
 

n7

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chizow, 2560x1600 is always going to be trouble for the absolute newest games...just how it is. Waiting really isn't going to change much IMHO.
With newer video cards, sure it gets easier for current games, but at that same time come newer games with higher requirements...

As for scaling, i assume you mean how a lower resolution looks scaled to fill the entire display, like having a 720p XBox 360 game running to fill the entire screen?

I know the Gateway or any of them with scalers will do better for that than those without scalers, but i don't think you'll find it too bad.

720p video looks great @ 2560x1600...compared to 1080p it's actually hard to see a large difference between good 720p vs. 1080p.

As for PC games, i personally can't really stand scaling a slower rez to fill the whole screen, but i never have liked that with LCDs at all, regardless of size.

For games that don't support widescreen so well or one i cannot run the full 2560x1600 at, i usually just run 1:1 pixel mapped, so i end up with black bars around the top/sides (less than 30" viewable).

I've never seen the Gateway in person to see just how well the scaler can do though, so i cannot say if it would change my opinion of doing scaled up vs. 1:1 pixel mapped, but i somewhat doubt it would for PC games anyway.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: n7
chizow, 2560x1600 is always going to be trouble for the absolute newest games...just how it is. Waiting really isn't going to change much IMHO.

Past history tells us that this will change. It used to be that 1280x960 was a high resolution and something people aimed for to get 60fps out of. Then it was 1600x1200, then 1920 x 1200 (similar, actually) and now, the next push will be for 2560x1600. Give it two, maybe three more years or so and we should see the cards able to handle that resolution without to many problems. But that is just my opinion. You could be right, we may not catch up that quickly. One thing is for certain, this isn't going to happen within the next 6 - 12 months.
 

n7

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I agree that GPU tech has certainly gotten better at doing high resolutions like 2560x1600, no question.

IMHO that's mainly because of what average size display people are driving though, which right now is around 1680x1050 for the average consumer (or likely 1680x1050 to 1920x1200 for the AT user).

But until we see craptastic TN 30" 2560x1600 displays, they won't become mainstream due to price, so i still think it's going to be a while before 2560x1600 is going to be easy to run with newer games...

I dunno, i guess i'm just saying that i don't really believe in playing waiting games; i never have & likely never will.

I got my 2560x1600 display knowing very well i'd be fighting with being able to run newer games likely forever (as i didn't & still won't do SLI/CF), & i've not regretted it one bit.

I guess i'm doing a poor job of promoting it, but what i'm trying to say is don't wait :p

Get your 2560x1600 awesomeness now...you won't be disappointed.
 

nRollo

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25X16 30" >>>>>>>all upgrades.

(although I'm very curious about the stereo monitors)
 

uclaLabrat

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I specifically wanted a monitor that didn't have a hardware scaling, since scaling = input lag, which would kill FPS for me. It seems like the other displays (HP, Dell 3007? and certainly 3008) has worse input lag. As for the monitor color fidelity, well, I'm colorblind, so it wasn't exactly high priority :D

I just wanted something better than a TN panel. It worked out that it also happens to be one of the cheapest ones, outside of the doublesight panel.
 

n7

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PVA/MVA panels are actually generally the worst for input lag, as good IPS ones don't really have it, & neither do TNs.

I don't really notice it though (i've gamed on friends' VAs as well as tried a few at stores), so you should be okay.
 

Craig234

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This is sounding like one nice monitor. Is the Samsung 305t the one to get? I see it for $1100 shipped. What's this abut the 305t plus replacing the 305t?
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
I specifically wanted a monitor that didn't have a hardware scaling, since scaling = input lag, which would kill FPS for me. It seems like the other displays (HP, Dell 3007? and certainly 3008) has worse input lag. As for the monitor color fidelity, well, I'm colorblind, so it wasn't exactly high priority :D

I just wanted something better than a TN panel. It worked out that it also happens to be one of the cheapest ones, outside of the doublesight panel.

Congrats on your purchase. Welcome to the world of stunning graphics and constant gpu upgrades. :D

The HP actually has very little/no noticeable input lag. I've been very happy with it.
 

uclaLabrat

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Originally posted by: Craig234
This is sounding like one nice monitor. Is the Samsung 305t the one to get? I see it for $1100 shipped. What's this abut the 305t plus replacing the 305t?

From the posts I've read on hard forums, apparently that is the case, it was released earlier in the year. Only difference I can find online is the plus model is now HDCP compliant.
 

pcslookout

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I can't wait until they make a lcd with 2560x1600 resolution but be able to scale as well as a CRT monitor! That would rock! Have the best of both worlds. I doubt it will happen anytime soon but it would be nice if it did.