24" OLED monitor to be released in Oct 2006

[xtknight]

24" OLED monitor to be released in 2006

Looks like the Dell 2405FPW/Samsung 244t (and Sony FW900) have some competition. I really hope they pull this off.

Great news for LED backlights too.

Good news, Sony's CCFL and LED[-backlit] monitors will have the same price! The manufacturer announced the released of 17, 19 and 20" monitors around July.

 

[TheRyuu]

Great, the price!?!?!?

(guessing $6000 at first )

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Great, the price!?!?!?

(guessing $6000 at first )

$6000? Is that it? Heh.....

Well, hell, if it's like nothing I've seen before, I'd be willing to put down a hefty premium for it.

 

[Looney]

I'll rather have the LED backlit LCDs. OLED will be very expensive, and from the looks of it, not that great with average response (by the time it's released... it'll be slow even compared to LCD) time and afterglow.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Looney
I'll rather have the LED backlit LCDs. OLED will be very expensive, and from the looks of it, not that great with average response (by the time it's released... it'll be slow even compared to LCD) time and afterglow.

Yeah I'm not sure what all that's about. I thought they were supposed to be very very fast.

 

[Corporate Thug]

seriously, any idea of price?

 

[Jon1234]

Good news, Sony's CCFL and LED monitors will have the same price!

Can anyone infer an expected price from this?

 

[ProviaFan]

Bring on the affordable wide-gamut LED LCDs!

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: Jon1234

Good news, Sony's CCFL and LED monitors will have the same price!

Can anyone infer an expected price from this?

Sony+new technology = $$$$$$


they know how to screw their customer.

 

[5150Joker]

By afterglow I think what behardware means is ghosting. However Sony claims they'll have OLED displays in the 12-16 ms range so if it's g-2-g then it shouldn't be too bad. As always with new technology, expect to see high prices for this stuff until there's more competition on the market. I don't think the market will be ready for OLED until at least 2008 so Dell 2405 has nothing to worry about. Besides, Sony also needs to worry about SED displays that are set to arrive soon.

 

[anandtechrocks]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Jon1234

Good news, Sony's CCFL and LED monitors will have the same price!

Can anyone infer an expected price from this?

Sony+new technology = $$$$$$


they know how to screw their customer.

That's for sure...

 

[imported_ST]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Jon1234

Good news, Sony's CCFL and LED monitors will have the same price!

Can anyone infer an expected price from this?

Sony+new technology = $$$$$$


they know how to screw their customer.

qft

 

[xtknight]

Heh...I hate Sony too, but they have come up with some really good things like aperture grille technology and Qualia LCDs. I just thought it was quite amazing OLEDs of this size are becoming available so soon. The other day I swore they wouldn't until 2010. (On the other hand, we don't know they will be available and/or the issues with them.)

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Heh...I hate Sony too, but they have come up with some really good things like aperture grille technology and Qualia LCDs. I just thought it was quite amazing OLEDs of this size are becoming available so soon. The other day I swore they wouldn't until 2010. (On the other hand, we don't know they will be available and/or the issues with them.)

It's my understanding that OLEDs tend to have rather short lifespans, but maybe they've improved them a great deal over the last 5 years. I would still prefer SEDs to OLEDs for several reasons: brightness, response time (SEDs are < 1ms), and the possible longevity problems. I'm not sure how well SEDs would scale resolution though, given that it's one electron "gun" per set pixel and not scanned like a CRT. That would be the biggest potential downside.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
It's my understanding that OLEDs tend to have rather short lifespans, but maybe they've improved them a great deal over the last 5 years. I would still prefer SEDs to OLEDs for several reasons: brightness, response time (SEDs are < 1ms), and the possible longevity problems. I'm not sure how well SEDs would scale resolution though, given that it's one electron "gun" per set pixel and not scanned like a CRT. That would be the biggest potential downside.

They are having a hard time finding a blue organic material that can emit for longer than 10K hours but they developed a lab prototype that did 100K+ hours so perhaps they got it to work by now.

We don't know which one will be brighter. It's very possible OLEDs will be brighter (at least for first year of usage maybe). OLEDs should be able to reach extremely low response times too, I honestly think they must have been talking about the LED-backlit LCDs maybe. Either that, or this is a really crap generation of them. I swear I've heard they will be as fast as CRTs.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: xtknight
They are having a hard time finding a blue organic material that can emit for longer than 10K hours but they developed a lab prototype that did 100K+ hours so perhaps they got it to work by now.

We don't know which one will be brighter. It's very possible OLEDs will be brighter (at least for first year of usage maybe). OLEDs should be able to reach extremely low response times too, I honestly think they must have been talking about the LED-backlit LCDs maybe. Either that, or this is a really crap generation of them. I swear I've heard they will be as fast as CRTs.

I've heard that as well (about response time); they're supposed to be significantly better than LCDs in this regard. At least in the lab.

Interestingly, I saw absolutely nothing about OLED displays at CES, which normally would imply that there were not any slated to be coming out this year. Of course, it's also possible that I missed them somewhere in the 20K+ exhibitors.

 

[xtknight]

Samsung had an AMOLED on display. (no pun intended) I think it's mostly at Asian tradeshows.

http://www.oled-info.com/history.html
http://www.samsungsdi.co.kr/contents/en/companyinfo/sdiHistory_2000.html
http://images.google.com/images?q=samsu...0amoled&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi

Very interesting page about OLED tech:
http://www.tftpanel.hu/article.php/oled

Also:

For Samsung the replacement of fluorescent tubes will be made in two steps. At the end of 2005, other FFL (Flat Fluorescent Light) types will replace current CCFL type tubes. The first ones are able to reproduce 72% of the NTSC color spectrum and the second one 90%. At the end of 2006, the FFL will be set aside in favor of LED backlight. The gamut reproduced will be increased to 105% and the monitor?s life from 60 000 to 100 000 hours.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/570-3/lumileds-the-future-of-the-lcd.html

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Jon1234

Good news, Sony's CCFL and LED monitors will have the same price!

Can anyone infer an expected price from this?

Sony+new technology = $$$$$$

they know how to screw their customer.

just a noob asking a question, doesn't CCFL stand for someting like Cold Flurecent Lighting?

 

[CP5670]

Those response times are surprisingly rather high. Although I suppose this monitor would have far better contrast than LCDs. I will still be holding out for SEDs though, which look like they'll be getting everything right aside from the fixed resolution.

The counterpart on NEC's 21" monitor, which is already available, is a very much higher price: 5000 ?. Good news, Sony's CCFL and LED monitors will have the same price!

:laugh:

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
just a noob asking a question, doesn't CCFL stand for someting like Cold Flurecent Lighting?

Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp.

 

[lifeguard1999]

NEC LED Monitor

 

[DefRef]

They are having a hard time finding a blue organic material that can emit for longer than 10K hours but they developed a lab prototype that did 100K+ hours so perhaps they got it to work by now.

That would mean that they developed it in 1995 and just finished testing it? Source for that factoid and methodology used, please.

 

[tuteja1986]

lol , its sony

New technology + Sony Hype + Sony Outrages increase for profit = Outrages price

 

[Elusiv1]

Anytime Sony comes out with something it's always overpriced, even when products have been out for an extensive amount of time in comparison to other companys!! Sony is overrated and overpriced!! I'm sure $10,000 wouldn't suprise me for a 17" OLED monitor from Sony... Excuse me for being a Sony hater!!!

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: DefRef
They are having a hard time finding a blue organic material that can emit for longer than 10K hours but they developed a lab prototype that did 100K+ hours so perhaps they got it to work by now.

That would mean that they developed it in 1995 and just finished testing it? Source for that factoid and methodology used, please.

The materials generally decay in terms of light-producing ability in an predictable way. They have a 'half-life', if you will.

Basically, you can tell that if it loses, say, 10% of its output capability in, say, 1,000 hours, it'll lose another 10% in another 1,000 hours, etc. (numbers made up, but that's basically how it works).