23 year old teacher arrested for having sex with 14 year old boy

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: jumpr
I love how everyone jumps on Michael Jackson for being a sicko and a predator, but when a hot teacher is accused of pedophilia, it's "Where were those teachers when I was in school?"

Talk about your double standards.

:roll:

pedophilia is pre-pubescent children. 14 is an 8th grader, and some of them might be quite mature, physically. there may be a double standard, but it isn't what you pointed out.
ped·o·phil·i·a (pd-fl-, pd-)
n.

The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.

Pre-pubescent is nowhere in that definition. 14-year-old girls can be quite sexually developed as well. Would you condone a 20-something male teacher having sex in his car with a 14-year old girl? After all, it's not pedophilia, by your convenient definition.

:roll:

You need to look up the meaning of "child" ;)

child
n. pl. chil·dren (chldrn)
A person between birth and puberty.

Thank you Beau, I was gonna say that. :)
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: thebenjamins
poll, id hit it when i was 14?

of course! who wouldnt?

Those who didn't get the opportunity and are now trying to say that very lack of opportunity was due to high moral character? :)
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: NeoV
wow, this thread took off....a few more comments....

I'll stand by my statement that this kid in no way, shape, or form, will be 'damaged' from this in any way. Yes, it would be a completely different story if the 23yr old was a male teacher and the 14yr old was a female student - but that isn't the case here. Boys and girls develop much differently - much of this kids confidence and personality are already set, whereas girls 'mental' stability is still very much developing as late as 14. Relax, this boy will be fine, and a celebrity of sorts for the next year or so.


M.Jackson's situation is nothing like this, please stop trying to compare it.

Who is the sick F that brought up Dolphin sex?


The best quote from this entire thread is:

"Not that I have a problem with a system that encourages girl on girl action"

Now that is signature material!


I totally agree. It's different, and a double standard. Physiology 101 teaches us that girls actually endure a physicaly change when having sex for the first time. Psychology says that sex is totally different for most females than males to. The boy will have no mental scarring (though he will probably start having sex with other girls now...) and no physical changes either.

Edit:

Now that doesn't mean that I approve of this practice. I definitely don't think that we should say it's wrong one way and ok the other. I was merely remarking that the effects of this are probably less damaging than if the sexes were reversed.
 

remagavon

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: NeoV
wow, this thread took off....a few more comments....

I'll stand by my statement that this kid in no way, shape, or form, will be 'damaged' from this in any way. Yes, it would be a completely different story if the 23yr old was a male teacher and the 14yr old was a female student - but that isn't the case here. Boys and girls develop much differently - much of this kids confidence and personality are already set, whereas girls 'mental' stability is still very much developing as late as 14. Relax, this boy will be fine, and a celebrity of sorts for the next year or so.


M.Jackson's situation is nothing like this, please stop trying to compare it.

Who is the sick F that brought up Dolphin sex?


The best quote from this entire thread is:

"Not that I have a problem with a system that encourages girl on girl action"

Now that is signature material!


I totally agree. It's different, and a double standard. Physiology 101 teaches us that girls actually endure a physicaly change when having sex for the first time. Psychology says that sex is totally different for most females than males to. The boy will have no mental scarring (though he will probably start having sex with other girls now...) and no physical changes either.

Edit:

Now that doesn't mean that I approve of this practice. I definitely don't think that we should say it's wrong one way and ok the other. I was merely remarking that the effects of this are probably less damaging than if the sexes were reversed.

So the girl would probably be scarred but the boy wouldn't? How do you back that up? (I'm being serious too, I'd like to know- not asking to be an ass this time:p)
 

vi edit

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Maybe Playboy should offer her a photo shoot op to help out with legal fees.

:)
 

OCNewbie

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Originally posted by: remagavon
So the girl would probably be scarred but the boy wouldn't? How do you back that up? (I'm being serious too, I'd like to know- not asking to be an ass this time:p)

Well, just picture how they will now be looked upon by their piers (and thus treated accordingly). Meaning, imagine if it were a 14 yr. old girl sleeping with an older man. Many her age might badge her as a slut, and it's unlikely this incident would bring her any praise from her piers. From what I remember in middle school (approx 13 years ago), the girls that were known to be sexually active were not looked up to by girls, but were drooled over by boys. So if it were a 14 yr. old girl, she'd probably be getting unwanted attention by overly horny boys her age, since they all now know "dude, she puts out!". Along with the chastising by her other female piers, etc., I would think this would have to have a negative impact on her emotions, and certainly her outlook on her ordeal with the 23 yr. old man, which at one point she probably thought was fun or a good thing.

Now, on the other hand, imagine the praise the 14 yr. old boy is getting from his piers? "Right on man! wish it had of been me!" stuff like that I'm sure has been said to him. He is seen as quite mature, already losing the big V, not to mention with a hot older woman. Heck, he's envied by guys in their 20's (presumably) on this very message board. With all this praise coming your way, how could you possibly feel guilty or shameful about this event? Now, he may grow up to be tad cocky or arrogant, but in general, I'd say being over-confident is better than having very little confidence.

There isn't any science that I know of in the above, it's just what I observed going through my teens, talking to sexually active boys that were in their early teens, and seeing how they were viewed by other guys their age. Breakss down as, if you're a guy, and you've banging a hot chick, the majority (assuming again) of guys his age that spank it when they are home alone, will envy this guy, and let him know how cool they think he is. I doubt you'd see that same reaction if it were a girl in this instance.... she would be often labeled "the victim" where the boy is largely viewed as "my hero!".
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: remagavon
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: NeoV
wow, this thread took off....a few more comments....

I'll stand by my statement that this kid in no way, shape, or form, will be 'damaged' from this in any way. Yes, it would be a completely different story if the 23yr old was a male teacher and the 14yr old was a female student - but that isn't the case here. Boys and girls develop much differently - much of this kids confidence and personality are already set, whereas girls 'mental' stability is still very much developing as late as 14. Relax, this boy will be fine, and a celebrity of sorts for the next year or so.


M.Jackson's situation is nothing like this, please stop trying to compare it.

Who is the sick F that brought up Dolphin sex?


The best quote from this entire thread is:

"Not that I have a problem with a system that encourages girl on girl action"

Now that is signature material!


I totally agree. It's different, and a double standard. Physiology 101 teaches us that girls actually endure a physicaly change when having sex for the first time. Psychology says that sex is totally different for most females than males to. The boy will have no mental scarring (though he will probably start having sex with other girls now...) and no physical changes either.

Edit:

Now that doesn't mean that I approve of this practice. I definitely don't think that we should say it's wrong one way and ok the other. I was merely remarking that the effects of this are probably less damaging than if the sexes were reversed.

So the girl would probably be scarred but the boy wouldn't? How do you back that up? (I'm being serious too, I'd like to know- not asking to be an ass this time:p)

Just from common knowledge... Take this thread for instance: it's a perfect example of how our society works. Older men with younger women is not as socially accepted as if the sexes were switched. Male rapists are hated worse than females. Lesbian sex is more socially accepted than gay sex. All these opinions are based on, IMO, the underlying instincts of passing the seed and the right to breed. Throughout nature, mating occurs with the FEMALE decides it's time: when she's ready physically, and, in some situations, mentally/emotionally. It strikes a deep nerve with society if a female is raped, or taken with consent, before social maturity because she is not considered to be ready by natural standards (physically or mentally [not willing]). However, if you switch the sexes, and the male is the younger or victim, there is little physical change he will have to endure once the event is over (granted it's not a violent act). There is no time-enduring consequence for the male (short of an STD) like pregnancy, and the general consensus is that sex affects women differently than men: for women it's more emotional, thus emotions are more apt to be scarred or developed in an inappropriate sexual act.

Of course, that's only my opinion. I could be wrong. But, it makes sense.
 

imported_KirbsAw

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Male rapists are hated worse than females.

How often have you heard of an actual rape committed by a woman? I mean that wasn't done to child etc.

Lesbian sex is more socially accepted than gay sex.

because its fun for guys to watch :beer: Women don't want to see gay guys
 

tec699

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That teacher wanted it! Just look at the photos! She's a whore who probably had her legs spread opened on the first day of class.
 

imported_KirbsAw

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Originally posted by: tec699
That teacher wanted it! Just look at the photos! She's a whore who probably had her legs spread opened on the first day of class.

Don't forget that she was holding a sign that said "do me now!"
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: KirbsAw
Originally posted by: tec699
That teacher wanted it! Just look at the photos! She's a whore who probably had her legs spread opened on the first day of class.

Don't forget that she was holding a sign that said "do me now!"

yea... :D
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
She looks like a fat butch *** chick.

Jesus where did you go to school? The playboy mansion? I mean I've seen hotter chicks at college, but seriously dude, I'd still hit it.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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She's HOT! After she gets out of jail, she can pose for Playboy and star in porn videos. Damn I hope so!
 
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Aelius
By the way she should have moved to Canada.

The Legal age of Consent in Canada between a Male/Female is 14, Male/Male 18, Female/Female 14.

I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

However that is not the same as porn. The male/female must be 18 to appear in porn.

Female/Female 14....all i gotta say

You like seeing little girls touch each other, you sick wanker?
 

Maverick

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how crappy would you feel if your wife left you for some 14 year old...hah that guy's gotta be pissed!
 

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i don't feel like addressing most of this thread (too lazy :)) but i will bet that the couple had an open relationship...
okay, i will also say that i remember i when i was in the third grade even, most boys i knew minds were so dirty... it might not have been exactly correct concepts about the the birzs and beez, but it sho wasn't nothing i could print here either
them boys mamas jumped in this and that's the cause and effect -- the girl should have known that boy wasn't gonna keep that secret! he's a boy. most men wouldn't have kept their mouths shut, let alone a 14 yr old...
it's america, wal-mart and stuff and maxim magazines basically
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: KirbsAw
Male rapists are hated worse than females.

How often have you heard of an actual rape committed by a woman? I mean that wasn't done to child etc.

Lesbian sex is more socially accepted than gay sex.

because its fun for guys to watch :beer: Women don't want to see gay guys

Actually, quite a few times. The guys that I have talked to don't realize it was rape, though. In fact, the first one I can think of was on ATOT, the guy was posting how he'd gone to... either Canada or Mexico, was partying with some friends and had spent the night being hit on by a corpulent female friend... he passed out, and woke up as she was mounting him. IIRC that was when he lost his virginity, too.

Now that I think about it, does anyone remember that thread? Was a couple years ago.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Aelius
By the way she should have moved to Canada.

The Legal age of Consent in Canada between a Male/Female is 14, Male/Male 18, Female/Female 14.

I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

However that is not the same as porn. The male/female must be 18 to appear in porn.

Female/Female 14....all i gotta say

You like seeing little girls touch each other, you sick wanker?

Well... kind of.
 
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Originally posted by: iloveme2
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
noting a post in the fark forum, I can't even begin to put the rage of the husband into words. scary. I hope that never happens to me, or anyone else.... That is unless, he was cheating on her and didn't get caught, but that explains why he was not so willing around debra(<hottie).

Also, i think at 14 the kid should have been to go on a sexual level. thats all it was. Did you know in the wild two male dolphins "capture" their femails and "hit it" as partners? After a while they will get sick of her, lapse on the "security" and let another team of males capture her. Then they just go find a younger female. Also, some times the males trade partner males with other teams of dolphins so they can "hit" different females without having to capture them. Well, this is how they explained it last night on national geographic.

wtf does dolphins have to do with this

http://www.dolphinsex.org/


**ALERT ALERT ALERT** You are going dangerously close to an old but well known site much hated and tragically admired far and wide...

Edit: O...ooOO? that afore mentioned site is now down?
 

imported_KirbsAw

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Actually, quite a few times. The guys that I have talked to don't realize it was rape, though. In fact, the first one I can think of was on ATOT, the guy was posting how he'd gone to... either Canada or Mexico, was partying with some friends and had spent the night being hit on by a corpulent female friend... he passed out, and woke up as she was mounting him. IIRC that was when he lost his virginity, too.

Now that I think about it, does anyone remember that thread? Was a couple years ago.

If only I had a dollar for everytime I woke up being mounted by a hot chick..... :p